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Lilbaz

Just call me Baz
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why do we have scouts then, dont ask me who as i am not paid to scout the world looking for that player
that is why we have scouts i guess, its hard that our scouts couldnt find one player in an attacking sense that would make a difference

They probably could. But that wanted to come to us (balde) or was one we could afford (martins, lamar both quoted as €90m) and was better than what we have and poch likes is not easy. If it was we would have got one.
 

knowlespurs

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May 31, 2012
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Thanks for the update.

Dubious about the Jadon info as Dortmund are a massive leap up in the food chain to liege and by all accounts the kid is hugely talented so I see no reason why they want to help us.

Appreciate the info as always but find that part hard to comprehend
agreed, there is no way Jadon is coming now, they have given him the 7 shirt, paid a lot of money, its not some shady deal to sell him to us
seeing what is going to happen to RS a year down the line is pretty speculative as well, anything could happen in the mean time
and dont know why we are commending Levy so much, had an ok window, didnt bring in an AM which all the ITKS said we were going to, it was an ok window but cant see why Levy did so well
 

knowlespurs

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They probably could. But that wanted to come to us (balde) or was one we could afford (martins, lamar both quoted as €90m) and was better than what we have and poch likes is not easy. If it was we would have got one.
Martins wasnt quoted as was never even mentioned so wasnt quoted at 90m
And if our scouts can only find 2 players then we need new scouts
 

knowlespurs

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If I had to guess, it'd be 15m and Dortmund would get the next sell-on. Small wages for the next year and an almost guarateed profit. Smart business from them.
mate its not going to happen
they have bought him to play, why on earth would they buy him to sell to us later, they arent some tin pot club
 

doctor stefan Freud

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Sep 2, 2013
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Summary of the window. We have to commend Daniel Levy. There were differences of opinions between him and Poch. I think it is safe to say both saw the light. There is absolutely no way anyone can criticise Daniel and moan about our missed targets, and 'Pinch of salt' ITK's who have given you very accurate, and honest updates, be it positive or negative. We do cross reference on occasions know ;)

Big shout out to Rob (Governor) and A&C, for their excellent work. Before I go any further, I will be donating £50 between today and tomorrow. Bosses please inbox me to remind me.

I will bullet point what was said with results and reasons, to the best of my knowledge.

1. Ross Barkley=As was said all along, not fully fit, and issues with his injury, we wanted to deal at figure which will not go public, but less than chavs, but not much less. He came to London, hoping to be diverted William style, but Everton refused to talk to us, as chavs tried Daniel's famous (after Willian) exclusivity clause:ROFLMAO:

When it became apparent after a flea got in his ear Ross scarpered, to return on our terms in January.

2. Our contingency was Gomez as loan with option to buy. We were more keen on the loan with option in our favour, and not Barca. We would have to of made a commitment to buy either way. In the region of 40 plus million. Poch was asked, and was not keen. Daniel then walked away.

3. Llorente was the silent one, and so silent that our relationship with Swansea made sure it stayed that way. Chavs wanted to deal earlier in the window, but Swans wanted Bony, but couldn't deal until GS was sold. We were tipped off by their hierarchy that bid was accepted by Spanish club, and chavs. Poch made a personal call to him. Once that was done chavs stood no chance. This is all Poch.

4. VJ, Poch loves him as a person, and admires his attitude. Poch wants it to work for him, and told him he needs 3 specialist strikers, and with all the games he would get his games.

5. DS= Without our backroom staff this deal would not even of developed. We had been talking to Ajax, having a full dossier on him. Chavs were very keen, along with the two Spanish giants. Also Bayern were keen. He spent a lot of time talking to Poch, and eventually that swayed it. He was shown videos of our complex and stadium. Enough said.

6. SA=Another one down to our backroom staff. Daniel commissioned experts he trusts in France, along with very highly regarded legal counsel in the U.K., who were liaison with appropriate authorities to risk assess. Once they knew it was over, SA was so confident he declined Yanited and chavs especially. Poch played a blinder also.

7. Foyth=Came out of Poch's influence and connections. Daniel, you naughty boy what you did with PSG. Can we say they were never serious?

8. GK=Poch wants 3, and convinced he will prove a shrewd signing, and rates his staff to improve him beyond compare. He also showed well in Spain.

9. Wing forward, we had a few options, but reasons we pulled with Poch's blessings. Zaha is interesting, and may be revisited later. All down to Poch, and Zaha has 35m clause that becomes effective around April.

10. Jadon could be a Zaki Fryers in January or summer. Watch this space.

11. Dembele will be utilised in advanced roles, subject to matches. Due to our pacey defensive additions.

12. Lamela is not far off, and will be used in No. 10 role. Hope it works out for him, because if not Roma is calling.

13. Danny boy Rose is happy. No issues with him. Still think he may go amicably end of season. We promised him that. Key to that will be if he is upgraded in his contract, as all the ones we want will be. Don't worry about Toby. All good.

There you have it. No moaning please. Overall we done good business. COYS!!!
@Hercules you beautiful thing
 

yido_number1

He'll always be magic
Jun 8, 2004
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why do we have scouts then, dont ask me who as i am not paid to scout the world looking for that player
that is why we have scouts i guess, its hard that our scouts couldnt find one player in an attacking sense that would make a difference
Llorente?
 

DanielCHillier

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Not sure if it's been brought up, but didn't we have ITK that Toby and Erics new contracts would be announced once the transfer window was closed ?
 

Japseye

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Sep 20, 2004
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Just momentarily look at how our rivals summer deals have shaped up. All clubs missed out on filling gaps in their squads.
  • Arsenal - added Lacazette - positive, but lost Oxlade-Chamberlain and Gibbs, and have both Sanchez and Ozil running down their contracts. Not a club in a good place. Wenger clearly wanted to add some craft to midfield, didn't get it. Defensively still very frail.
  • Chelsea - lost their club captain in Terry (much as we don't like him, he was a huge figure for them), plus in reality their top goal scorer in Costa. Have they added quality, in essence yes, but not World Class, and probably not as much as they'd like either. Missed out on Aurier, Barkley, Llorente, Oxlade-Chamberlain. Losing their aura to sign who they want.
  • Liverpool - added Salah and Oxlade-Chamberlain, kept Coutinho. Missed out on adding Van Dijk though, also rumoured interest in Lemar fell short, and then spent big on a player they can't have till next summer in Naby Keita.
  • Man City - stronger at fullback than previously, paid a lot of money for goalkeeper relatively untested, but didn't add that centre back they were so clearly after. Also failed to get Sanchez over the line after selling Iheanacho and Bony.
  • Man Utd - added well early on, but clearly they have been looking to strengthen their left hand side, Perisic, Rose and Bale all openly targeted. Bought Zlatan back, but he won't be fit for months yet.
Can we really say those clubs did amazingly better than us.

I would say the Manc clubs probably did, they both strengthened areas they needed too (both have formidable squads now) and i think all would agree that for us to have had a perfect transfer window we could have done with probably 2 more - creativity and pace to help our attack.

But i completely agree most fell way short and as you point out everyone still has gaps they would have liked to fill.

We have the most settled squad in the league so lets get some of our sick notes back playing and get on a run like last year the league is still something we should be aiming for (just need to start winning at Wembley!)
 

Blackrat1299

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£10 donated, a bit late waiting for my pension. Reasonably pleased with this TW, especially as my hair is now all white! Thanks to all the team and ITK's
 

Japseye

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Sep 20, 2004
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At least now the window has closed I can go back to watching the live cams of the stadium build!

One of the best windows for ITK and bants for a while! see you all in Jan
 

EJWTartanSpur

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Jan 29, 2011
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Well in @Hercules very well in indeed. Always great to have the ITKs pop up afterwards and give a bit of a debrief, rather than simply vanishing. Very much appreciated indeed, you've been a star this window !

Interesting about Zaha, seems he would have asked for that to be included when he signed a new contract. Hilariously, this would have been just before prices went berserk so now 35m seems like an entirely different proposition to what it previously did. His agent has played a blinder there
 

Hoopspur

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Jun 28, 2012
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Anyone else on here got a certain Elvis song stuck in their heads?

Millions of 'em...

Always On My Mind
The Wonder of You

or
What A Night

or
Suspicious Minds
A Little Less Conversation
 

NinjaTuna

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@Rob well done yesterday for keeping things up and running! With you saying it was helped by donations, I can't help picturing you putting 50p's into a slot on the side of a giant server, helping to keep it afloat. Sort of like how you'd pay for one of those shite kids ride-along toys they have outside Tesco
 

Spurs Lodge Kittens

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Aug 31, 2012
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What I think is important that we have now arguably navigated the last real transfer window without losing our major talenet (not a lot traditionally happens in Jan) before moving into our new stadium and the extra matchday revenue that will bring.

If the ITK that allude to it is correct, then we'll be able to be more daring with transfer fees/wages going forward. For me if can tie the likes of Alli, Kane, Eriksen, Toby, Dier etc to long-term deals at weekly wage levels they'd be expecting to receive elsewhere then great. They'll be happy to stay and we can build the team around them, particularly those younger ones.

It's criminal in a way that Alli and Dier turn up to England training and are greeted by Lingard on 100k a week - they should be earning more than him and with a new stadium I hope we'll use that extra revenue to pay our guys what they're entitled to at the market rate
 
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