The Daily ITK Discussion Thread - The Hand in Pocket edition 27th May 2014

[DaSpurs]

I highly doubt it will be Morata, he has recenlt said he would like to stay at Real which, although doesn't mean he won't leave, I think means he hasn't already agreed a deal elsewhere.

Also, Morata won't be cheap, he will cost about 15-20 m Euro's.

All relative, but by my take a young Real Madrid striker for 12-16 pounds isn't a terrible deal, and that's before considering any sort of buy-back agreements (reduced costs both ways) since we're speculating as is anyway.

I think Morata will leave if Madrid do get a new striker addition, but I'll certainly agree that such a proposition is nowhere near certain to happen.

 

[DaSpurs]

Sandro played fifteen games last season. Poch will be looking for him to improve on that, or start someone more reliable.

Yeah I agree, even with rehab I'm not sure that'll be enough to be counted on as a first-eleven player.

 

[Dirty Ewok]

I really, really, really hope we don't lose Sandro. I'm sunk thinking about it. I would be absolutely gutted. I only hope that we continue our somewhat previous trend of pushing a few fringe players out and bringing in a few starters, to strengthen overall.

Very concerning that DiMarzio has come out and said he thinks that it is "likely" Sandro leaves in the summer. He seems to never miss on anything with us since Baldini has gotten to WHL, so if he is putting it out there it would seem that he is probably hearing in Italy that there is interest and Franco hasn't flat out said "he's not leaving" and probably admitted to some interest from the Italian teams.

 

[Yid]

Around about €22,000,000

Potentially could be a bargain.

Relative bargain.

Don't get me wrong, I'd love for us to be able to afford an LB of Rodriguez's stature...
But let's hypothesize that we do indeed have from £30 to £50 million to spend this summer (let's settle on the middle at £40 mil)...That's pretty optimistic IMHO, but still....We should probably look at more economical options than him, such as Oczipka, Kolasinac, or even Willems on a bad day....That way we have funds left over for Muniain or Kono (or someone similar) at LWF/LW, and then a few quid for a CentreBack in the mold of Doria or Umtiti (both of whom can slide into LB if necessary....In fact Umtiti is considered by some to be a better LB than a CB, but that's an argument for another day.

 

[arunspurs]

Tbh, I want Sandro to stop the childish tantrums and start getting back to his old ways in the pitch.

We have not seen the best of Sandro for over a year now. There was stretch of games in 2012/13, where he played with Demebele in CM, we won like 8 straight games.Injuries have wrecked his career since then. But after coming back, he has not been the same.

We need a hungrier Sandro on the pitch. Sometimes, I just feel he takes things too easy. May be a task master like Poch is just what he needs.

 

[DaSpurs]

I think it'll probably be splitting hairs to be honest. Capoue has the better range of passing, Sandro, in my opinion, could potentially offer more going forward (but, I've always felt this way in regards to Sandro). And, we have to take into account that Sandro and Capoue only made 29 appearances combined in the EPL this past season. That alone makes me think that these guys will both player major roles in an attempt to keep them both going strong for the whole season and because Poch will view them as both good options.

Oh I completely agree and I believe both will see sufficient game time to remain happy (especially given the demands of CDMs), but I do think he'll view Cap as first choice and more conducive to his tactics.

 

[DaSpurs]

Don't get me wrong, I'd love for us to be able to afford an LB of Rodriguez's stature...
But let's hypothesize that we do indeed have from £30 to £50 million to spend this summer (let's settle on the middle at £40 mil)...That's pretty optimistic IMHO, but still....We should probably look at more economical options than him, such as Oczipka, Kolasinac, or even Willems on a bad day....That way we have funds left over for Muniain or Kono (or someone similar) at LWF/LW, and then a few quid for a CentreBack in the mold of Doria or Umtiti (both of whom can slide into LB if necessary....In fact Umtiti is considered by some to be a better LB than a CB, but that's an argument for another day.

I agree with every word of this (especially love the Umtiti shout), but I do think we'll have a bit more available after player sales. I may be wrong, but I interpreted that chunk of change as extra available should Poch require it regardless of current player movement.

 

[spurs9]

Don't get me wrong, I'd love for us to be able to afford an LB of Rodriguez's stature...
But let's hypothesize that we do indeed have from £30 to £50 million to spend this summer (let's settle on the middle at £40 mil)...That's pretty optimistic IMHO, but still....We should probably look at more economical options than him, such as Oczipka, Kolasinac, or even Willems on a bad day....That way we have funds left over for Muniain or Kono (or someone similar) at LWF/LW, and then a few quid for a CentreBack in the mold of Doria or Umtiti (both of whom can slide into LB if necessary....In fact Umtiti is considered by some to be a better LB than a CB, but that's an argument for another day.

22 m Euro's is 18m pounds, do we would have 22 left over. Kono has a 12m buy out clause which leaves 10m for a CB, which should get us any of those CB names you mentioned, though, I would prefer Schar.

Also, we have a lot of players to sell and if bring in those 3 in we would have to sell to have room in the squad.

We could sell 2 (or 3) of Siggy, Lennon and Townsend, as well as Livermore, BAE and Falque which could net us 25-30m.

The difference between Rodriguez and the 3 you mentioned is big already. Oczipka is 25 and only every had 1 good season and he also has a history of injury problems. Rodriguez has 5 goals and 9 assists this season from LB and he is only 21.

 

[arunspurs]

We could sell 2 (or 3) of Siggy, Lennon and Townsend, as well as Livermore, BAE and Falque which could net us 25-30m.

Was there not a story about Pochettino interested in Townsend as Lallana replacement. If thats the case, I can't see him going, atleast not before Poch gets to see him train & play

 

[Snarfalicious]

Was there not a story about Pochettino interested in Townsend as Lallana replacement. If thats the case, I can't see him going, atleast not before Poch gets to see him train & play

With the amount of improvement players like Rodriguez and Lallana saw under Pochettino, I'd imagine Pochettino would be interested in seeing what he could do with a talent like Townsend. Townsend, despite his obvious (and infuriating) tendencies does have quite a bit of talent that could still be realized into a quality player.

 

[Twizzle]

Weren't we linked to some megastar for a huge spend of about 40mill ?

It was a weak link but if thats what JJ is referring to maybe we decided to spend big, Draxler maybe ?

He has a buyout of around 40 mill.

 

[DaSpurs]

Weren't we linked to some megastar for a huge spend of about 40mill ?

It was a weak link but if thats what JJ is referring to maybe we decided to spend big, Draxler maybe ?

He has a buyout of around 40 mill.

Fox never told, but he did confirm Draxler as the only one it was not.

 

[ButchCassidy]

Weren't we linked to some megastar for a huge spend of about 40mill ?

It was a weak link but if thats what JJ is referring to maybe we decided to spend big, Draxler maybe ?

He has a buyout of around 40 mill.

Draxler would not come to us.

 

[spurs9]

Was there not a story about Pochettino interested in Townsend as Lallana replacement. If thats the case, I can't see him going, atleast not before Poch gets to see him train & play

The only report I could find was that we were offering Townsend plus cash for Lallana. There was no indication that Poch was interested and it was reported in the Mirror and caughtofside, so will almost definitely be BS.

 

[arunspurs]

Weren't we linked to some megastar for a huge spend of about 40mill ?

It was a weak link but if thats what JJ is referring to maybe we decided to spend big, Draxler maybe ?

He has a buyout of around 40 mill.

I don't rate Draxler for 40m.
And I dont think we will spend 40m on one player.

 

[Twizzle]

Draxler would not come to us.

Suarez went to Liverpool, money talks.

I know its ambitious but just putting it out there

 

[fridgemagnet]

Am i imagining it or is almost every major club shopping for CB's this season, we'll be waiting for a while for everyone else to shake out to get just one let alone the two we need plus a LB. I'm fairly certain Ade's off so we may need a striker.

I'm not certain but i'm sure Moussa is going to miss the first quart of the season because he needs an op and some twat's scheduled a world cup just when it'd be dead handy if he wasn't going.

If we hang on to Hugo and Verts can you pick out a spine for our side or are we as usual one or two short?

↱ Some git?
Hugo -------> Verts --------> Holtby + Sandro ---------> Flat Eric --------> Soldado?
↳ Wide Erik​

 

[arunspurs]

Am i imagining it or is almost every major club shopping for CB's this season, we'll be waiting for a while for everyone else to shake out to get just one let alone the two we need plus a LB. I'm fairly certain Ade's off so we may need a striker.

I'm not certain but i'm sure Moussa is going to miss the first quart of the season because he needs an op and some twat's scheduled a world cup just when it'd be dead handy if he wasn't going.

If we hang on to Hugo and Verts can you pick out a spine for our side or are we as usual one or two short?

↱ Some git?
Hugo -------> Verts --------> Holtby + Sandro ---------> Flat Eric --------> Soldado?
↳ Wide Erik

I am almost certain that our priority will be to sell Soldado first than Ade.

 

[yankspurs]

I am almost certain that our priority will be to sell Soldado first than Ade.

Would be a big mistake. Soldado is quality and doesnt fuss. Ade picks and chooses when to play and who to play for and has a terrible attitude.

 

[U.S. Spurs Fan]

Weren't we linked to some megastar for a huge spend of about 40mill ?

It was a weak link but if thats what JJ is referring to maybe we decided to spend big, Draxler maybe ?

He has a buyout of around 40 mill.

No chance at all of the $40 mill mystery man would be Reus, correct? I know he wouldn't come here but that would fit JJs statement about being amazed at who will play with Eriksen next season. Talk about a perfect fit too on that left side too. Alas just a pipe dream I'm sure.