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On the pitch the only growth left is actually winning things, my worry is what happens if we don't start winning things
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On the pitch the only growth left is actually winning things, my worry is what happens if we don't start winning things
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Only so much DL can do about that to be fair as we already have the squad to win trophies. All he needs to do to help us deliver something is to bring in one or two solid squad players as that's where we fell a little bit short last season.
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Agreed. Buuuuuut, the 'only so much' is quite important too. If (IF) we start to lose players because they don't think we're showing ambition, who carries the can for that? I'd say right now we're OK but IMO its more of an issue than a lot of people like to think and Levy does have to get that right too. Personally I think he's got a free swing so to speak at this season. After that it could get tasty.
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What he does need to get right is offering sizeable but fair wage increases. Trippier is a good start, but Toby needs to follow soon. For now until stadium revenues are well and truly flowing in that's actually what we should be focusing more than incomings. As long as Walker is replaced adequately I can handle someone like him leaving for a huge fee if it means we can tie up the likes of Toby, and offer increases to Dier, Rose and Alli for instance too.
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Levy was very frugal with the TV money from last season whilst other clubs chucked it about. We really should have plenty in the kitty to be offering comparable wages to our top players. Most important of all though (IMO) is hanging onto Poch.
HobbitSpur
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Good point made. However pre match drinks will no doubt have to make an appearance at some point.
Always does with me, I've got the breaking strain of a Kit-Kat.
I'm with you there !!! A forty six year old bladder is starting to show the strain
(And I've just noticed @cider spurs that my initial response appeared somewhat patronising. Apologies, wasn't meant to just missed an emoji of the end
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How could Levy-sceptics be holding Tottenham back? You sound like a Brexiteer accusing realists of "talking Britain down".
I think that Levy is doing a very good job, by the way. I just don't understand how you think the club is affected by people who disagree.
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Every time this thread pops up on my screen it grates.
10 of our last 12 league finishes have been better than we had ever achieved before in the Premier League era (the two seasons that weren't were the Ramos blip, which it probably is fair to blame on Levy) and set a new highest points tally five times in that same period.
We are also competing in European competitions on a more consistent basis than ever before in the club's history. Next season will be our eighth in a row in Europe and eleventh in the past 12 seasons. Until recent years, we had never qualified for Europe in more than four consecutive seasons. We've qualified for the Champions League three times during Levy's reign (and are extremely unlucky that it isn't five times). Before Levy's time, we had qualified for the European Cup once and never for the Champions League.
So performances on the pitch have been steadily improving, we have fantastic new training facilities and a new stadium on the way. Why is anyone even questioning whether Levy is holding us back?
The most common complaint about Levy seems to be that he doesn't spend more on wages and new signings. What many of our fans seem to forget is that we wouldn't have any of the money that isn't being spent (or much of what is spent) if it wasn't for Levy's careful management of the club.
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That's my view as well. Could be a free swing the following season if the lure of our new fancy stadium is enough but beyond that the players and even Poch might get a bit annoyed if we aren't seen as showing 'ambition'.
It's a shame as Poch is maybe a once In a lifetime opportunity, give him 1-2 more top players and it does feel the Sky could be the limit, deny him that and frustration may develop.
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Not disagreeing but I would argue against the upward trajectory being inevitable, Poch has transformed this club, he is for me Levy's greatest decision and we could go backwards if he left and didn't replace him with at least a manager half as good.
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I apologise for ever having questioned him and to the millions of Spurs fans out there, i'm triple sorry for 'holding us back'. I had no idea. If only i'd never dared criticise, we'd have won the CL by now.
Fucking ridiculous post
I'm not sure why people think spending hundreds of millions will guarantee us being better than we are now.A big part of what we have is our team bonding.If you suddenly chuck x3 £50m signings into the 1st xi that could all be destroyed.city and united proved last year you can't just throw money at it you have to be much shrewder than that .I think 10-20 yrs ago you could buy the league,I honestly don't believe that's true now.the core of this team hopefully will together for at least another 2-3 years.2 quality signings this window with the great kids we've got coming through would be perfect imo.
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I never said upward trajectory is inevitable...only that performances have been improving (past tense).
What happens from here on out is guesswork, but Levy is not and has not been holding us back. Pochettino has not left so does not need to be replaced, so that is fairly irrelevant at this point.
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The big difference is that Chelsea, City, Utd. etc can pay players ridiculous money to sit on the bench and bide their time. In fact, they pay bench warmers more than we pay our top players. People are not impressed that we are allegedly looking at players like Josh King to fulfil that role, but the reality is that that is our level for now.
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I think I read somewhere the points total last season would've won 7 or 8 Premier League titles in the past. Just our luck we had Chelsea playing out of their skins too this season.
I still don't expect us to win anything soon. The PL will be won by either City, Chelsea or UTD next season. One of them will probably win the FA cup. We're left with the LC and will probably not bother going for it.
The battle for us next year is staying in the top 4 and I expect that's what Levy plans for. A trophy would be great but unlikely.
mpickard2087
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Must be that time of year where the transfer junkies haven't had enough signings to satisfy their cravings...
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That was a fortnight ago. Keep up.
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You do know that
1: This thread is almost 4 years old
2: At some point we were getting a shitload of anti Levy threads so they all get merged into this one now so the lines have gotten somewhat blurred
3: Nobody in their right mind has, for quite some time, suggested Levy is holding us back*
*Apart from the occasional complete fruitcake
agreeYou do know that
1: This thread is almost 4 years old
2: At some point we were getting a shitload of anti Levy threads so they all get merged into this one now so the lines have gotten somewhat blurred
3: Nobody in their right mind has, for quite some time, suggested Levy is holding us back*
*Apart from the occasional complete fruitcake
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