The England World Cup Thread

[riggi]

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[spursfan77]

Anyone see the BBC documentary 'Managing England - The Impossible Job'? It's on iPlayer now and this thread on Reddit has a link to it if you wish.

Henry Winter is the voice of the media while the various England managers talk about their experiences of the job, the pressure and the role of the media. He sums up their approach to the England team quite well, unfortunately, as we go through the various scandals, stings and OUT campaigns over the years.

His comment on Southgate is telling. Southgate doesn't care about the media because Euro 1996 will always be the worst, but if he slips against Panama....

I thought Winter came across as a massive ****. Really quite spiteful.

 

[tiger666]

Dele missed training. RLC to replace if not fit?

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/44560684

 

[DJS]

http://www.skysports.com/football/n...ed-for-england-v-panama-leaked-photo-suggests

Love how we leak this info as well, it's like our press don't want England to do well...

 

[SUIYHA]

http://www.skysports.com/football/n...ed-for-england-v-panama-leaked-photo-suggests

Love how we leak this info as well, it's like our press don't want England to do well...

In all fairness, the World Cup is a squad game. You play a large number of high intensity games in a short space of time. I know I may live to regret saying this, especially after being knocked out of the last two tournaments by countries with even smaller populations than Panama, but we should be able to deal with them easily. Having a rested Sterling (and Alli) coming back fresh to play Belgium and whoever follows next would be good to see, and whilst he had arguably the best season out of any England player bar Kane, his England performances haven't exactly made him undroppable

 

[DJS]

In all fairness, the World Cup is a squad game. You play a large number of high intensity games in a short space of time. I know I may live to regret saying this, especially after being knocked out of the last two tournaments by countries with even smaller populations than Panama, but we should be able to deal with them easily. Having a rested Sterling (and Alli) coming back fresh to play Belgium and whoever follows next would be good to see, and whilst he had arguably the best season out of any England player bar Kane, his England performances haven't exactly made him undroppable

Yes true it is a squad game but don’t need the press leaking Southgate’s team plans to opponents...

 

[sausage]

http://www.skysports.com/football/n...ed-for-england-v-panama-leaked-photo-suggests

Love how we leak this info as well, it's like our press don't want England to do well...

Not even that, but it's Top-tier moronic reporting.

Gareth Southgate is considering dropping Raheem Sterling against Panama, judging by a note spotted at England training.

Marcus Rashford's name, rather than Sterling, was pictured on the note playing in the front two alongside captain Harry Kane.

Imagine being a reporter who can't read.

 

[Shadydan]

Watching the teams in this tournament I've not been overly impressed, only a couple of teams look competent at the moment (Mexico, Croatia and Spain) Germany and Brazil I expect to step up, not impressed with France, Belgium, Argentina, Portugal, Uruguay or Colombia)

England's performance against Tunisia was decent I thought particularly first half but it's always hard to judge in the first match and how good/bad Tunisia were. First half hour they were cutting them open and creating chances, should have had at least two more not to mention the two pens.

Anyway let's see what happens against Panama, true test will be Belgium but from what I've seen it looks encouraging compared to some of the other teams I see nothing major to fear.

 

[spursfan77]

Yes true it is a squad game but don’t need the press leaking Southgate’s team plans to opponents...

They’re all too stuck up their own arses to see that it undermines the team and manager. Publishing the team before a game is never a good idea yet they don’t seem to think it’s a bad thing. Journalists are all such an untrustworthy bunch who’ll put a story ahead of undermining the national team. This is more proof if it were needed.

Although as far as I can see it’s hardly a photo of the actual team.

 

[riggi]

 

[gloriousbillynich]

http://www.skysports.com/football/n...ed-for-england-v-panama-leaked-photo-suggests

Love how we leak this info as well, it's like our press don't want England to do well...

The British Media are a bunch of absolute knobheads who'd knife their own gran for a story, no exceptions.

 

[Danners9]

All the journalists are coming out against Southgate's comments. They say they are not cheerleaders and if there is news to report they will, etc. Defending this as it was an open training session. That is all fair enough, but.. to get this info you need a zoom lens and then decide to print it without knowing the true meaning behind it.

It's definitely going to get clicks but on its own it's not that interesting, but it does sum up the press mentality. They want access, they had been praising Southgate for giving more access to England players, and then when there's an open training session they go hunting for something that has been seen as disrupting the side.

So the next step is to revoke that access, I suppose? or stop speaking so candidly to them. If the trust isn't there, or they are abusing the access, then what's the point...

That said, Sterling or no Sterling, it is a squad game and England should have enough to beat Panama whether they know the line up or not.

 

[Marty]

Brilliant response. Fair fucking play.

 

[riggi]

Brilliant response. Fair fucking play.

I love how he's put the ball in their court. People should boycott the rags they write for.

 

[Streetspur77]

Is there a more fucked up profession then the media? Fuckers will sell their soul for clicks.

Southgate gave them unprecedented access and they repay him by purposefully seeking out a way to undermine him and then all banding together in a weirdly coordinated response when he defends himself and the team.

I suppose the only solace this time is that it seems to have bought the team and fans together against the media which is fine by me.

 

[spursfan77]

What I love too in the responses to every reporter or journalists tweets, is English fans of all clubs agreeing with eachother that the media are in the wrong. I’ve seen nobody saying they are right in publishing the photos.

The journalists have completely misread the nation on it but they won’t admit they’re wrong. I called that Miguel Delaney out to apologise for making up that “Poch has a Real Madrid agreement” clause in his contract but he wouldn’t admit it. They aren’t man enough to admit when they’re wrong.

 

[gloriousbillynich]

Frankly, Southgate should turn around and tell them he'll have to be way more restrictive towards them in future with regards access to interviews etc.

Understandably, he won't though, as won't want to rock the boat during the WC campaign.

 

[Yid-ol]

I love how he's put the ball in their court. People should boycott the rags they write for.

England should stop letting the ones who publish the team sheets into pre and post match conferences and see how quick they stop it!

 

[wirE]

Can't Southgate & co. shut down the team training and don't let any media in, or would that wreak havoc?

 

[gavspur]

The media are idiots. Southgate has responded well, as have most of the Nations fans.

Thing is tho, is that team selection really much of a surprise? Most played well, Dele may struggle to be fit, only really Sterling was in my mind a doubt to start other than Dele. So no big surprise.

If the opposition have to face Sterling or Rashford, is there really that much difference? The system is the same.

So it makes it even more stupid of them to think this is a story really. Cos I am struggling to see why they thought this was groundbreaking news, other than their current figure of hate is Sterling.