The England World Cup Thread

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[ohtottenham!]

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He had great aim, even then.

 

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[Zippy1980]

Thought this was good, plus interviews from Eric Dier and Kieran Trippier:

One of my favourite journalist’s.

 

[UncleBuck]

Maradona ‘article’ on the beeb, he’s obviously bang on it again....
Maradona felt Geiger should have penalised Harry Kane for a foul on Colombia's Carlos Sanchez instead of awarding the penalty that allowed the England captain to open the scoring just before the hour mark in Moscow.

 

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[SlickMongoose]

Maradona ‘article’ on the beeb, he’s obviously bang on it again....
Maradona felt Geiger should have penalised Harry Kane for a foul on Colombia's Carlos Sanchez instead of awarding the penalty that allowed the England captain to open the scoring just before the hour mark in Moscow.

I wonder why the famous coke addict is a fan of Colombia?

 

[muppetman]

Sorry if already posted but I really enjoyed this:

 

[Amo]

More of this please..

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[Amo]

Reenactment of Southgate's mental stress testing for penalty takers. Harry Kane called in to the test room first -

What was that on her screen near the end?

 

[Danners9]

Maradona ‘article’ on the beeb, he’s obviously bang on it again....
Maradona felt Geiger should have penalised Harry Kane for a foul on Colombia's Carlos Sanchez instead of awarding the penalty that allowed the England captain to open the scoring just before the hour mark in Moscow.

umm... Tino Asprilla also tweeted that the ref was helping England.

I wonder what these guys see. Ignore all the fouling, harrassing the ref didn't happen, Kane being mounted by Sanchez right in front of the ref. Maybe they are so high they just see shapes these days?

 

[Riandor]

I think they’re primarily pandering to their local demographic of readers/fans.

Part of it will be heart on sleeve reactions to losing after having “valiantly” fought back.

Had we lost we would equally be banging on about the ref for being too lenient on Colombia.

 

[tiger666]

I think they’re primarily pandering to their local demographic of readers/fans.

Part of it will be heart on sleeve reactions to losing after having “valiantly” fought back.

Had we lost we would equally be banging on about the ref for being too lenient on Colombia.

Exactly this. He made the comments on his nightly Venezuelan World Cup show on TV. Who cares what he says to his own TV audience.

 

[Shadydan]

And it was straight after the match, obviously he's gonna be emotional and biased.

Context is everything peeps

 

[Pellshek]

Unpopular opinion: I thought the ref in the Colombia-England match had a good game. Much of the criticism of him is accompanied by the usual anti-US bullshit we always hear whenever it comes to soccer. But I don't think it's fair.

Any refereeing performance has to be seen in the context of the stakes, the pressure and the behaviour of the players. In all those regards - high stakes, high pressure, poor player behaviour - the ref did well.

The rap sheet seems summed up here: https://www.independent.co.uk/sport...ard-raheem-sterling-video-watch-a8429826.html

This seems fairly weak to me.

On the head-butt, first, fans consistently complain that it's a physical game, and then moan when a red isn't shown. Can't have it both ways. Second, while a red was probably right, we don't know what the VAR officials said to the ref, who I don't think saw the incident in real time. Third, if an incident is not going to hurt a player, I'm ok with it being a hard yellow or whatever it's called (An orange? A black? A yellow ++?). Whatever, it was glorified handbags at the end of the day, not a leg-breaker or pointed elbow. And finally, the ref was consistent with Henderson's head-shove later, which wasn't as bad for sure, but the principle was at least consistent.

The rest of the complaints seem kinda watery. Maybe he could have made some other decisions differently, but all of the ones in the article are arguable or defensible in the other direction too. The ref got most of the sporting decisions - such as Kane's pen - correct, even if the discipline side wasn't perfect. Very hard game to ref, and he did just fine for me in the circumstances.

 

[tiger666]

Unpopular opinion: I thought the ref in the Colombia-England match had a good game. Much of the criticism of him is accompanied by the usual anti-US bullshit we always hear whenever it comes to soccer. But I don't think it's fair.

Any refereeing performance has to be seen in the context of the stakes, the pressure and the behaviour of the players. In all those regards - high stakes, high pressure, poor player behaviour - the ref did well.

The rap sheet seems summed up here: https://www.independent.co.uk/sport...ard-raheem-sterling-video-watch-a8429826.html

This seems fairly weak to me.

On the head-butt, first, fans consistently complain that it's a physical game, and then moan when a red isn't shown. Can't have it both ways. Second, while a red was probably right, we don't know what the VAR officials said to the ref, who I don't think saw the incident in real time. Third, if an incident is not going to hurt a player, I'm ok with it being a hard yellow or whatever it's called (An orange? A black? A yellow ++?). Whatever, it was glorified handbags at the end of the day, not a leg-breaker or pointed elbow. And finally, the ref was consistent with Henderson's head-shove later, which wasn't as bad for sure, but the principle was at least consistent.

The rest of the complaints seem kinda watery. Maybe he could have made some other decisions differently, but all of the ones in the article are arguable or defensible in the other direction too. The ref got most of the sporting decisions - such as Kane's pen - correct, even if the discipline side wasn't perfect. Very hard game to ref, and he did just fine for me in the circumstances.

The ref was weak. Players were getting away with all kinds. It took 4 minutes from the award to the penalty being taken. He was not authoritative enough, at all.

 

[tommo84]

Unpopular opinion: I thought the ref in the Colombia-England match had a good game. Much of the criticism of him is accompanied by the usual anti-US bullshit we always hear whenever it comes to soccer. But I don't think it's fair.

Any refereeing performance has to be seen in the context of the stakes, the pressure and the behaviour of the players. In all those regards - high stakes, high pressure, poor player behaviour - the ref did well.

The rap sheet seems summed up here: https://www.independent.co.uk/sport...ard-raheem-sterling-video-watch-a8429826.html

This seems fairly weak to me.

On the head-butt, first, fans consistently complain that it's a physical game, and then moan when a red isn't shown. Can't have it both ways. Second, while a red was probably right, we don't know what the VAR officials said to the ref, who I don't think saw the incident in real time. Third, if an incident is not going to hurt a player, I'm ok with it being a hard yellow or whatever it's called (An orange? A black? A yellow ++?). Whatever, it was glorified handbags at the end of the day, not a leg-breaker or pointed elbow. And finally, the ref was consistent with Henderson's head-shove later, which wasn't as bad for sure, but the principle was at least consistent.

The rest of the complaints seem kinda watery. Maybe he could have made some other decisions differently, but all of the ones in the article are arguable or defensible in the other direction too. The ref got most of the sporting decisions - such as Kane's pen - correct, even if the discipline side wasn't perfect. Very hard game to ref, and he did just fine for me in the circumstances.

The ref was weak. Players were getting away with all kinds. It took 4 minutes from the award to the penalty being taken. He was not authoritative enough, at all.

I don't believe the referee got decisions wrong - and I thought Henderson's reaction to the 'headbutt' was massively OTT and would have been called out as such by more of the UK media if a Colombian player did it - but the penalty delay was ridiculous. Yellow cards for dissent should have been issued very quickly with the warning that if those players didn't back off they would be dismissed. Once the referee failed to do that he lost all control of the game.

I agree that it was a difficult game to referee, but it was made more so because the ref didn't assert control at any point.

 

[Shadydan]

Surprised more wasn't made of Mina over-celebrating his goal, according to the rules he should have been given a yellow card for delaying the restart of kick off, I suppose that would have been petty from the ref though, no one wants to see players sent off for silly things but I think he would have got booked had he not been booked already.

 

[theShiznit]

My old man is (not a dustman) travelling back from Germany during our Quarter final and was asking me if there's anyway of watching the game.

They have free wifi on the trains.

Just wondered if there are any good apps that would make it possible for him to watch as i know he's gonna be pestering me otherwise during the game.

I have ruled out Iplayer as no proxy. He has a decent phone and tablet (both android)