The GLENN HODDLE thread

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    Glenn Hoddle, widely regarded as the finest post-war Spurs player, joined the club as a schoolboy apprentice in April 1974 following the recommendation of another Tottenham legend, Martin Chivers.

    He successfully overcame knee problems in his early teens and collected England Youth caps prior to making his first-team debut as a 17 year old substitute against Norwich City in August 1975. Spurs drew 2-2.

    Hoddle was forced to wait until February 1976 to start a First Division match and immediately announced his arrival with a spectacular strike past Stoke City and England goalkeeper Peter Shilton. [ar][​IMG][/ar]
    The talented playmaker flourished under the management of Keith Burkinshaw and despite the club's relegation to the Second Division in 1976/77 after 27 seasons of First Division football, a Hoddle inspired Spurs side won promotion to the top flight at the first attempt. As Tottenham's transitional phase continued, Hoddle's enigmatic and often controversial international career began in December 1976 against Wales in an Under-21 fixture. He would collect another seven caps at that level and play twice for the England 'B' team prior to scoring on his full international debut against Bulgaria in November 1979.

    The 1979/80 campaign heralded the emergence of Hoddle as a top-class player, the 22 year old midfielder scored 19 goals in 41 league appearances and was deservedly awarded the PFA Young Player of the Year award at the end of the season.

    [al][​IMG][/al]Critics of Hoddle questioned his stamina and willingness to defend but his natural attacking skills were simply breathtaking and often at odds with the ingrained British football philosophy of tireless running and a strong work ethic. His sublime balance and close control, unrivalled passing and vision and extraordinary shooting ability, both from open play and set pieces, made Hoddle the most gifted English player of his generation.

    In 1981, he starred as Spurs won the FA Cup for the sixth time, defeating Manchester City in a memorable replay and the following season Tottenham retained the FA Cup (Hoddle scored in both the Final and Final replay) and finished the League campaign in fourth place, the club's best league position since 1971.
    Hoddle performed as the midfield fulcrum in many of these successes and also contributed magnificently as the team reached the final of the League Cup, losing 3-1 to Liverpool, and the semi-final stage of the European Cup Winners Cup. During the summer of 1982, Hoddle played in two of England's matches in the opening group phase of the FIFA World Cup, starting against Kuwait after a substitute appearance in a 2-0 victory over Czechoslovakia.

    Unfortunately for Tottenham Hotspur and their star player, Hoddle's involvement in the following three seasons was limited by a number of niggling injury problems (he started only 76 of a possible 126 league matches) but nevertheless, Hoddle proved to be the architect behind the team's 1984 UEFA Cup triumph despite missing the Final due to fitness concerns. In October 1983, he dazzled the White Hart Lane crowd with a phenomenal second-round display as Spurs won 6-2 on aggregate against a Feyenoord Rotterdam side containing the legendary Johan Cruyff. Such was the quality of his perfomance in both matches, the Dutch legend entered the Tottenham dressing room and offered Hoddle his shirt as a sign of respect. [ar][​IMG][/ar]

    Spurs came close to further honours in the next three seasons, reaching third place in the First Division and the quarter-finals of the UEFA Cup in 1984/85 and another FA Cup Final in 1987, losing 3-2 to Coventry City, the only time the North London club has experienced defeat in the final of the famous knock-out competition.

    The unexpected loss to the Midlands side was Hoddle's last match for Spurs as newly-appointed AS Monaco manager Arsene Wenger brought him to the principality for a fee of £750,000. Between 1975 and 1987, the gifted playmaker scored 110 goals in 490 first-team matches in all competitions, only four players (Steve Perryman, Pat Jennings, Gary Mabbutt and Cyril Knowles) have made more appearances in a Spurs shirt. At international level, Hoddle won 44 caps for England during his Tottenham career, an inadequate return for such a skilful and charismatic footballer.

    A video of Glenn Hoddle goals can be viewed here :bowdown:

    One of the greatest ever players to play for Spurs, I remember watching him score that volley against Man Utd (See video clip) from the shelf and what sticks in my mind was the buzz going around the ground as the game restarted. His best ever goal? My vote goes to the Watford turn and chip (Again see video clip) but there were just so many to choose from.

    What would he be worth today?
     
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Discussion in 'Front Page Features' started by Archibald&Crooks, Jan 21, 2007.

  1. DC_Boy
    I'm pretty sure Hod got 53 caps - this is from memory - I'm certain he got over 50 - again from memory - of course quite a few were as sub

    While Hod was treated unfairly by England managers - especially Greenwood who dropped Hod straight after his wonder debut - confidence building or what? - we must also remember injuries cut short his career - bobby robson had him ear marked as a key player sometime round 84 - again all from memory - but hod get horribly injured - I think by a foul tackle

    Anyway I've probably said this earlier in thread but Hod is my fave spurs player ever - and I've seen Greaves Smith White Jones Blanchflower Mackay, not to mention Ginola Gazza Lineker Klinsmann and Berbatov and many others besides
  2. vitamin32
    any recommendaions of a dvd or video (i still have one) of hoddle history and goals?
  3. DC_Boy
    Not sure - but there's quite a lot on You Tube
  4. harrowspurs
    saw a lot of glenns playing days ..the man was different class.

    still yet to see a player strike or pass a ball as sweetly as him..

    a true tottenham legend.
  5. bill
    In his prime Glenda was probably the finest European footballer of his era.

    If I was to try to compare him it could only be with the likes of Cruyff, Platini, Jozsef Bozsik, Ronaldinho and George Best, oh and Zizou of course. These were/are class players - untouchables.

    Glenn was the sort of player you build a national team around. I bet he'd be first on Capello's team sheet.

    Week-in, week-out I was lucky enough to watch a god play football. How many gooners can say that?
  6. thfcsteff
    I remember that game so well, a steward up there on the day said it was the most away fans he'd ever seen including Liverpool. Amazing support. I went home and away for many of Glennda's seasons with us, and he was quite simply superb. Loved him.

    The story you've told doesn't surprise me; I've met him a few times, and he always, always had time for you; a smile, a hello, a quick chat...

    He will ALWAYS be MY King of White Hart Lane (more so then Gilly for obvious reasons I think!) and he REMAINS a legend that not even his failed managerial tenure with us can tarnish...

    Had the press not ridiculed and taken him out of context, I believe England would've won a major tournament under his handling...
  7. monkeynick
    Hod is god, he and Tottenham were the perfect fit.

    My first trip to the lane as a boy I saw him and Waddle warming up and it was beautiful, I'm convinced that ball was on string between them.

    Cruyff, Maradona, Platini and others knew and acknowleged just how good he was yet the British media wouldn't see it and England management couldn't see it
  8. Liquidator
    Glenn certainly did get 53 caps, and as to why he wasn't capped more often, i think we need look no further than the famous Danny Blanchflower quote I see so often here (and quite right too):

    "Hoddle a luxury? It's the bad players who are a luxury."

    That would surely be a direct reference to the England set-up, as he'd hardly be talking about Spurs, would he?

    I also think England palyed some of the best - and purposeful - football under Hod - taking Argentina to penalties with only 10 men? Puh-lease!!!

    I thought the FA should have considered him again - when you consider why he was 'let go' and consider what Sven got up to - not to mention the spit-roasting habits of about half the England squad.

    I'm not judging them - just saying Glenn was treated more than harshly - and he wasn't paid a billion a week like that priapic bald Swede.

    Maybe he was a right git in a previouis life! (Sorry Mr H.)
  9. TheChosenOne
    On Sunday night I watched the highlights of the Chelsea vs Spurs FA Cup quarter final from 1982 (res.2-3) at Stamford Bridge.

    I was high up in the East Stand that afternoon, after a quarter of a century I still hold that day to be special (what with the yellow socks) as well.

    6/3/82 vs Chelsea FAC 1/4 final 2-3 Hoddle Arch, Hazard
    13/3/82 vs Liverpool LC Final 1-3 lost
    17/3/82 vs E.Frankfurt 1-2 Hoddle**
    20/3/82 vs Soton 3-2 Roberts(3)

    So.back in them heady days it was - London SW6, Wembley, West Germany & WHL in the space of 14 days, saw them all, the Liv game was a travesty, 7 mins to go
    Galvin had been "eliminated" by Souness early on, our first ever cup final loss, yet a few days later we were out in W Germany having travelled by coach (phew) to see a special Hoddle goal (well mine anyway) to see us through to the Cup winners cup semi against Barcelona who cynically beat us over two legs.

    Them were heady days, Hodd made it all happen.

    Thanks for all that Glenn. You were worth it.
  10. parklaneprince
    simply the KING OF WHITE HART LANE -
    greatest player that i will probably ever see
    gutted it never worked for him as manager
    the club should produce a dvd with all his goals-
    GOD
  11. thfcsteff
    Glenn Hoddle

    I've seen a few threads discussing Spurs legends...well I know for generations before me we're talking about Eddie Baily (VERY UNDERRATED BUT VITAL LEADER OF THE ARTHUR ROWE PUSH AND RUN SIDE), DaveMcKay, Jimmy Greaves, Cyril and Stevie Perryman (a fucking lion)...but for me, the player who just fucking had EVERYTHING was Glenn Hoddle.

    The best footballer I have ever seen. Two-footed, sublime short and long range passing, a goalscorer and also able to muck in with a tackle or three (note his leaving Waddock on the deck during the 82 cup final and advancing to receive a pass outside the box which he then slammed home)...

    Has anybody really seen a better Spurs player than Hoddle? If so, let's discuss. And further, here's a few of my favorite Hoddle moments witnessed live in the flesh...

    1) Sublime pass for Crooksie in the 81 semi-final replay.
    2) Free-kick in the 81 Cup Final.
    3) Bullet from 30 yards at Anfield 81/82
    4) Goal against Chelski 82 QFs, fucking beautifulf beautiful team goal...
    5) Sublime spin and chip against Watford 1983
    6) That goal against QPR in 82 cup final
    7) Masterclass against Cruyff when Feyenoord came to the Lane in 82/83


    You can see where this is going...the man was simply a fucking football GOD!!!!!!!
  12. chinaman
    Had Alfie Conn stuck with us and developed his full potential, he would have been just a shade behind Hoddle.
  13. DC_Boy
    :) Steff - I've seen all the Spurs greats 'live' from Blanchflower & Co up to Berbs today and Hod is still my fave - truly worth the admission money on his own - at a time when thuggery flourished and pitches weren't bowling greens, Hodd was a beacon of artistry in the English game -

    the 82 'masterclass' at the Bridge in the Cup 6th round is another worth mentioning - what a day that was amidst the hate that was Fulham Broadway that afternoon
  14. TheChosenOne
    Although I was high up in the (then) new East Stand
    that afternoon I didn't relive the goals at my leisure until a couple of week ago when ESPN showed the highlights.

    Nice one.
  15. DC_Boy
    It was wasn't it TCO :) I remember going to see CFC play Arsenal in the 70s with my Dad, an arsenal fan, and we went into this terrifyingly high stand, that was just there bang on its own, I don't know if that was the same stand, but it was well scary to me who'd never gone higher han the Shelf before at football matches (well maybe a little higher, but nothing like that)
  16. shelfsideyid
    Nobody mention the Fairy Tale send off ?????

    After announcing his move to Monaco, in league game against Oxford City ( it's true they were once in the 1st Div) which i'm sure was his last home game.......

    Picking the ball up late on just outside our area, running the length of the pitch, beating two defenders, a magical dummy, rounding the keeper & walking ball into the net.......

    With 35 thou' Yids singing " Don't go Hoddle.." turns to Paxton, then Shelf, saluting us adoring fans, blowing kiss's as a goodbye...................:bowdown::bowdown:

    Was one of many fans in tears, priveledged to see the greatest Spur ever:bowdown::bowdown:
  17. shelfsideyid
    Ohh.... and soooooooo underplayed by a series of England boss's.............
  18. P-L-P
    My Dad always tells me about a goal he scored against Bolton that was never televised and so is lost for ever.

    He says it was Hoddles best and the best he has seen for Spurs.
  19. DC_Boy
    Yep PLP I missed that legendary goal too - it was in the Cup from memory -

    apparently it was so audacious that some people thought he couldn't have meant it

    such a shame it's lost to the world

    it's a bit like Greavesie's goal v Leicester - but luckily I was there for that one :)
  20. Rupstoh
    Hoddle's best goal ever -

    This one - someone find the video quick, Brian Moore commentates.

    http://www.mehstg.com/nottsformatch.htm

    scroll down for...

    27.10.1979 A stunning goal from Glenn Hoddle won this match for Spurs against a strong Forest side. On a sunny autumn afternoon at White Hart Lane, Milija Aleksic kicked the ball upfield, where Gerry Armstrong flicked it on. Chris Jones knocked the ball back into the path of Hoddle, who produced a stunning volley that flew past a helpless Peter Shilton to give Tottenham an early lead they held to the end of the match.
    Featuring on The Big Match TV programme, the goal was hailed as the best that season, with the ball not touchng the ground until it nestled in the back of the net at the Park Lane end.
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