The Kyle Walker-Peters Thread

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  1. Mullers

    Mullers Unknown member

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    We will because we have CL football and it will be seen as too much of a risk to have KWP as understudy.
     
  2. StanSpur

    StanSpur Ronny Rosenthal

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    Possibly.... However, we do also have Dier who has played at RB and Toby plays there for Belgium so there are some options. It would be difficult to replace Walker with anyone close to his ability without spending most if not all of the cash we get for him. Personally I have come around to Trip being first choice, despite the pace difference I think Trip is actually more affective. Stats last season are 5 assists each, Trip doing it in 16 starts vs Walkers 33. Lets see what happens. If we get offered anything close to the £40-50m being talked about then Walker goes. KWP showed promise on his weaker side so Poch may well spend elsewhere (like a 3rd top CB or another pacey forward)
     
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  3. talkshowhost86

    talkshowhost86 Mod-Moose Staff

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    I trust Poch on when to bring the younger players through.

    He got it right with Winks, and I think he's also got it right with Onomah and Carter-Vickers who aren't there yet.

    So if he doesn't think KWP is ready for the top flight, and let's be clear that winning the u20 World Cup doesn't change that at all, then we do need to bring in another full-back if and when Walker chases the cash at City.
     
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  4. Col_M

    Col_M Pointing out the Obvious

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    Love how he keeps moving after giving the pass.
     
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  5. Ossie'sAardvark

    Ossie'sAardvark Active Member

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    Yep, he looks stylish. First I've seen of him...ta Edson.
     
  6. Ossie'sAardvark

    Ossie'sAardvark Active Member

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    I should do really, I'll go check Tariq hinds....any more stand outs you know of?
     
  7. millsey

    millsey Official SC Numpty

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    Please!! Dier is not a wing back!!
     
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  8. coys200

    coys200 Active Member

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    We defo seem blessed in CM winks onomah roles oakley-boothe Paris maghoma
     
  9. Tottenham_God

    Tottenham_God Well-Known Member

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    Lesniak not a fave?
     
  10. Bus-Conductor

    Bus-Conductor SC Supporter

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    I just don't agree. As much as I love Poch I don't agree with the scant or zero minutes players like Onomah, KWP, Pritchard and Oduwa received in their available time. Definitely didn't get it right with Onomah. What's he had 100 minutes in the last two seasons ? A piss poor 17 minutes last season ? There were games where we were 4-0 up with thirty minutes left and he didn't get on. And he's never played a single minute as a CM, all his minutes have been as a wide forward. There is no way in some games that he wouldn't have been worth a try in CM with someone like Wanyama next to him than having Dier ambling around passing from A to B and never wanting to take the ball under pressure.

    All of the above may not have ultimately proved good enough, and that would be fine if it wasn't for the fact that we are spending money and giving minutes in preference to players who also clearly aren't already proven to be good enough in similar areas.
     
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  11. coys200

    coys200 Active Member

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    Lesniak has gone .keep up haha
     
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  12. Frozen_Waffles

    Frozen_Waffles Active Member

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    Sell all our fbs!

    Seriously though I watched him in a couple of youth games a couple of years ago and he was by far the best player in both games. I am really disappointed he hasn't got any game time yet.

    He is in training with 4 of the best full backs in the country, if he can show he is close surely Poch can give him a few starts.

    He has to play in preseason and given a chance.

    Looks amazing in that vid though!!
     
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  13. Tottenham_God

    Tottenham_God Well-Known Member

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    oh nooooooo
     
  14. Ossie'sAardvark

    Ossie'sAardvark Active Member

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    Cheers Edson. I love the way we pass the ball into the net, training composure ala jimmy greaves.lol.
     
  15. mill

    mill Well-Known Member

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    Out of curiosity who are the two?
     
  16. stevenurse

    stevenurse Palacios' neck fat

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    I am really struggling to get behind the notion this kid could be/will be our 2nd choice right back (more likely rotation, due to the physical demands poch places on his full backs and the number/regularity of games).

    The kid has never played a competitive senior game. I'm all for youth etc but he'll get his chance is this checkatrade Cup this season.

    If trippier got injured or suspended at any point, would you be happy with KWP starting against city, Chelsea, United etc? Personally I think it would be a car crash, and not just for the team, but also him mentally.

    Looking good against decent (but not outstanding) prospects in your own age category is one thing. Playing against some of the best in the world is a very different kettle of fish.

    In poch I trust and all that and maybe I'm a pessimist and he's actually a right footed Roberto Carlos but I just don't see it, yet. I'm very hopeful in time but let's not let the football hipsters overhype this kid and ruin him before he's ready.

    Don't anyone reply mentioning Dele Alli by the way. That argument is ridiculous.
     
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  17. Blake Griffin

    Blake Griffin Well-Known Member

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    can we reply with harry winks then?

    i don't get why you assume it would be a car crash, what examples can you give of a youth player coming in and that being the case? liverpool started 18 year old trent alexander-arnold at rb away to man utd last season and he did just fine, in fact klopp is now happy to push him as back-up/competition to clyne. i'm sure you and everyone here would be more than happy to see this pereira kid come in and start, a player that only has two full-ish years playing in france, presumably doesn't speak english and has no idea of how ours or the english game works, is he really any more of a risk than kwp? why are fans petrified of these kids getting a chance?
     
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  18. Mark_147

    Mark_147 Active Member

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    No because winks has been brought on little by little, 10-15 minutes towards the end of matches. You would be just throwing KWP in at the deep end if trippier got injured at the start of the season.
     
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  19. mill

    mill Well-Known Member

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    As would any RB brought in from a foreign league
     
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  20. stevenurse

    stevenurse Palacios' neck fat

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    As Mark_147 says. Winks was given 5/10 min appearances here and there first. To put that amount of pressure on walker peters is a massive gamble. Especially if we seriously want to challenge.

    Im all for giving them a chance, which is the only reason I can see why we've entered this checkatrade Cup. Perform in that then next season he can usurp one of the others that we can sell on
     
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