Player Watch The Kyle Walker-Peters Thread

Lappi

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Seems odd for me to say, but I hope we don't bring a right back in and he's given his opportunity next season
Agree. There's no point having a great youth system if your best youth players don't then get a chance to play. If we buy a replacement for Walker then you might as well kiss KWP's spurs career goodbye. The lad needs to be playing certainly next year in not this year
 

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Agree. There's no point having a great youth system if your best youth players don't then get a chance to play. If we buy a replacement for Walker then you might as well kiss KWP's spurs career goodbye. The lad needs to be playing certainly next year in not this year
If he's good enough he'll find his way up to the first team, Winks was 5th choice at the beginning of last season and now he's arguably behind Wanyama and Dembele for a midfield starting spot.
 

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If he's good enough he'll find his way up to the first team, Winks was 5th choice at the beginning of last season and now he's arguably behind Wanyama and Dembele for a midfield starting spot.
Mmmm, kind of. Full back is a bit different. If he has 2 RB's ahead of him he'll be relying on injuries to get any game time at all as without at least one RB injured he won't even be on the bench. It's a lot easier to rotate in young midfielders, there are more bench spaces for them and you can be flexible with the formation
 

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Mmmm, kind of. Full back is a bit different. If he has 2 RB's ahead of him he'll be relying on injuries to get any game time at all as without at least one RB injured he won't even be on the bench. It's a lot easier to rotate in young midfielders, there are more bench spaces for them and you can be flexible with the formation
The point is that Poch will know when he's ready as he'll asses him in training, he seems to be a very good judge of player especially for full backs. Winks barely had much match day experience before he came in and started playing, can see the same with KWP.
 

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The point is that Poch will know when he's ready as he'll asses him in training, he seems to be a very good judge of player especially for full backs. Winks barely had much match day experience before he came in and started playing, can see the same with KWP.
Exactly this ^

Poch @ Soton developed the then best two full backs in the league (Shaw - bought by Man U, and Clyne - bought by Liverpool).
Poch then turned Rose and Walker into the best two full backs in the league with us.
I expect Poch to know whether KWP is ready now, and also for KWP to become the next best RB in the league.

Winks had made two sub appearances in the Europa league before last pre-season and he smashed it last year.
 
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I am really struggling to get behind the notion this kid could be/will be our 2nd choice right back (more likely rotation, due to the physical demands poch places on his full backs and the number/regularity of games).

The kid has never played a competitive senior game. I'm all for youth etc but he'll get his chance is this checkatrade Cup this season.

If trippier got injured or suspended at any point, would you be happy with KWP starting against city, Chelsea, United etc? Personally I think it would be a car crash, and not just for the team, but also him mentally.

Looking good against decent (but not outstanding) prospects in your own age category is one thing. Playing against some of the best in the world is a very different kettle of fish.

In poch I trust and all that and maybe I'm a pessimist and he's actually a right footed Roberto Carlos but I just don't see it, yet. I'm very hopeful in time but let's not let the football hipsters overhype this kid and ruin him before he's ready.

Don't anyone reply mentioning Dele Alli by the way. That argument is ridiculous.
Let's see how KWP goes against PSG, Roma and Man City. You would think he would get 45minutes in each of those games.

If he looks out of his depth. Then we sign another right back. If he holds his own then we should persist with promoting him to the backup role.
 

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As would any RB brought in from a foreign league
Playing first team football in most foreign leagues is no way comparable to youth/reserve football, and we won't be signing players from foreign leagues where the standard is lower than our reserve league expecting them to ply in the first team.
 

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It's not like Poch pull him straight out of u21 training and into PL though.

The kid been training with our senior team for 2 seasons or there about so should be very familiar with the way we play.

He deserve to be backup this season imo.
 

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Let's see how KWP goes against PSG, Roma and Man City. You would think he would get 45minutes in each of those games.

If he looks out of his depth. Then we sign another right back. If he holds his own then we should persist with promoting him to the backup role.
Play him LB against Man City just to fuck with them
Playing first team football in most foreign leagues is no way comparable to youth/reserve football, and we won't be signing players from foreign leagues where the standard is lower than our reserve league expecting them to ply in the first team.
Bellerin went from pretty much the U21's to the first team and was a huge success

If Chambers, Debuchy and Monreal, didnt get injured Bellerin wouldn't have got his chance at 19 years old and been a huge success and a season later he was voted the best RB in the league.

Kyle Walker barring his physical attributes, Walker wasnt great at anything imo. Personally I think the final third KWP is better than Walker.
 

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If we sign Pereira or whoever then it's pointless KWP staying around this season. I get that Poch likes having younger players around first team for training/learning but there comes a point where they can only develop if playing.
It's detrimental to his development to play maybe 1 or 2 games and the rest in u23.

He'll turn 21 this season, we have to loan him out so he's ready to play in the future because that learning process in terms of game time isn't going to happen here currently.
 

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Sell all our fbs!

Seriously though I watched him in a couple of youth games a couple of years ago and he was by far the best player in both games. I am really disappointed he hasn't got any game time yet.

He is in training with 4 of the best full backs in the country, if he can show he is close surely Poch can give him a few starts.

He has to play in preseason and given a chance.

Looks amazing in that vid though!!
@IGSpur and others....much of this is on the left.....is he better/ same at RB?
 

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Play him LB against Man City just to fuck with them

Bellerin went from pretty much the U21's to the first team and was a huge success

If Chambers, Debuchy and Monreal, didnt get injured Bellerin wouldn't have got his chance at 19 years old and been a huge success and a season later he was voted the best RB in the league.

Kyle Walker barring his physical attributes, Walker wasnt great at anything imo. Personally I think the final third KWP is better than Walker.
Sure, an example of success.
Quite a few more though of players who look great at U21 level, but 1st XI football takes a lot longer to get used to.
 

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Play him LB against Man City just to fuck with them

Bellerin went from pretty much the U21's to the first team and was a huge success

If Chambers, Debuchy and Monreal, didnt get injured Bellerin wouldn't have got his chance at 19 years old and been a huge success and a season later he was voted the best RB in the league.

Kyle Walker barring his physical attributes, Walker wasnt great at anything imo. Personally I think the final third KWP is better than Walker.
Is he a great prospect, but lets not get ahead of ourselves his never even played a senior game yet, can't even compare to Kyle Walker