The Kyle Walker-Peters Thread

[daryl hannah]

Love how this guy can take an opposing defender on when high up the pitch... Who needs Atal?

 

[HD10LS]

I wasn’t on SC when Kane/Dier/Alli/Winks were coming through, but I reckon I can confidently presume none of them had this much criticism or doubt surrounding them? For a player that has been given man of the match in 30% of his games I think it’s completely unfair? 5 Years ago Poch was lauded for using the club’s youth, why do some fans now want to sign another player instead when there’s a young, versatile player with proven potential trying become a starter?

 

[carmeldevil]

I wasn’t on SC when Kane/Dier/Alli/Winks were coming through, but I reckon I can confidently presume none of them had this much criticism or doubt surrounding them? For a player that has been given man of the match in 30% of his games I think it’s completely unfair? 5 Years ago Poch was lauded for using the club’s youth, why do some fans now want to sign another player instead when there’s a young, versatile player with proven potential trying become a starter?

You should read the HK thread from the beginning. It's quite an eye-opener.

 

[doctor stefan Freud]

I wasn’t on SC when Kane/Dier/Alli/Winks were coming through, but I reckon I can confidently presume none of them had this much criticism or doubt surrounding them? For a player that has been given man of the match in 30% of his games I think it’s completely unfair? 5 Years ago Poch was lauded for using the club’s youth, why do some fans now want to sign another player instead when there’s a young, versatile player with proven potential trying become a starter?

Lots of us are just petrified children, untrusting of new things

 

[Havre]

Ha the reason Walker stormed was because he is a sprinter that can only really run the ball in straight lines

KWP has genuine dribbling skills and far more skill on the ball

Whether he will be as effective an overall player is going to come down to physique / robustness in the challenge defensively I guess

Walker was / is excellent at running back to recover a situation (sometime of his own making to be fair)

Sure, but I don't see why that means KWP should be tentative in his style.

He did well against Villa so this is not really criticizing him for his performance, but several times he could have been a lot more aggressive in his decision making. With the ball he has the close control to do so.

KWP is not the only one though. I think when we play poorly it is often because the team in general isn't aggressive enough in possession. Winks might be the best example. When he just pushes the ball sideways at a slow pace he is very average. When he plays the ball forward and even occasionally drops the should to run passed defenders he can be very effective. I still think we played our best football under Pochettino in 16/17 and that was a much more aggressive team in my opinion - with less individual quality than we got now. Hopefully N'Dombele and especially Lo Celso will give us back some of that "never say die" attitude.

 

[BehindEnemyLines]

I wasn’t on SC when Kane/Dier/Alli/Winks were coming through, but I reckon I can confidently presume none of them had this much criticism or doubt surrounding them? For a player that has been given man of the match in 30% of his games I think it’s completely unfair? 5 Years ago Poch was lauded for using the club’s youth, why do some fans now want to sign another player instead when there’s a young, versatile player with proven potential trying become a starter?

I believe it was Kaz Hirai that actually promised to eat his own pants off Harry Kane ever made it as a Premier league player....... And, to be fair, he wasn't the only one that thought he'd be shit.
Fortunately, we don't pick the team!

 

[BringBack_leGin]

I wasn’t on SC when Kane/Dier/Alli/Winks were coming through, but I reckon I can confidently presume none of them had this much criticism or doubt surrounding them? For a player that has been given man of the match in 30% of his games I think it’s completely unfair? 5 Years ago Poch was lauded for using the club’s youth, why do some fans now want to sign another player instead when there’s a young, versatile player with proven potential trying become a starter?

Not me, but Kane had huge levels of doubt in this site, too slow, too immobile, too clumsy, etc.
One poster went as far to say that if Harry even made it in the premier league he’d eat his own underwear (the poster, not Harry).

 

[ToDarrenIsToDo]

Not me, but Kane had huge levels of doubt in this site, too slow, too immobile, too clumsy, etc.
One poster went as far to say that if Harry even made it in the premier league he’d eat his own underwear (the poster, not Harry).

Just goes to show how short sighted those who write players off at a young age are. A lot don't make it but you simply need to give raw potential time to grow into what it can be.

Clarke, Sessegnon, Winks, Dele, Sanchez, Foyth, Ndombele, Lo Celso, Skipp, Parrott, Walker-Peters all still in the 23 or under category, all could still turn out for our PL2 team I believe and all need the chance to reach the levels we require them to be.

 

[whitesocks]

I wasn’t on SC when Kane/Dier/Alli/Winks were coming through, but I reckon I can confidently presume none of them had this much criticism or doubt surrounding them? For a player that has been given man of the match in 30% of his games I think it’s completely unfair? 5 Years ago Poch was lauded for using the club’s youth, why do some fans now want to sign another player instead when there’s a young, versatile player with proven potential trying become a starter?

It's his size that worries me. He is not stocky either. He is built like a winger.
I had the same concerns about Trippier.
Wing-back is fine. Back 4 not so much.

 

[NickHSpurs]

I think the doubters thought he'd be exposed yesterday but he did well considering City clearly targeted his side and also considering how good Sterling is at the moment. Sissoko didn't offer much protection in the first half an hour and I only remember KWP making one mistake.

 

[$hoguN]

I think the doubters thought he'd be exposed yesterday but he did well considering City clearly targeted his side and also considering how good Sterling is at the moment. Sissoko didn't offer much protection in the first half an hour and I only remember KWP making one mistake.

He was left horrendously exposed for the first hour, Sisokko should not have been the one giving him cover. Was inept tactical move, but KWP did well. Particularly against the world’s most dangerous attack

 

[aussiespursguy]

Thought he played his ass off yesterday. Well done lad. Probably the second toughest game he will face this season.

 

[newbie]

It's his size that worries me. He is not stocky either. He is built like a winger.
I had the same concerns about Trippier.
Wing-back is fine. Back 4 not so much.

Kwp is better stopping the ball in than trippier def Kwp a better one one defender.

 

[IGSpur]

Just glad he didn't get dropped after another great performance last week. He did well. People keep mentioned his strength as he may have been barged off a ball once or twice, I've seen plenty of footballers being barged off balls and falling over. Seems like people can't understand the concept that some people are stronger than others.

I remember a couple of times him dribbling out and holding people off. I don't get this issue. All things considered he held his own and we drew. Could he have done better for the first goal, maybe, but it was a great cross and run.

It seems the two moments that stick in a lot of people's head is the slip against Dembele and the handball at Crystal Palace. People make mistakes. With Foyth injured hopefully he gets the run he deserves and I have no doubt, he'll secure himself as our starting RB, and be one of the better ones in the league by the end of the season. He is even starting to dribble a bit more. Again fortune has played it's part and he should have happened earlier but hopefully he continues to take his chances now. Will be one of the genuinely quality players I've seen in the academy come through, just hope he brings his old game but it will come with confidence if he still has it in him.

 

[DJS]

I was despairing a bit at some of the knee jerk nonsense in match thread yesterday, he clearly isn’t up to it, a mid table defender etc blah blah.

I know it’s heat of the match but for fuck sake we were playing the best team in the league and as I’ve said many many times he was not bloodied properly by Poch last season when Trippoer was clearly struggling (and carrying an injury that needed to be sorted) so needs to be given the opportunities and allowed to learn from his mistakes like all young players do and grow from them.

I hope we aren’t gonna get this nonsense in every match thread as soon as KWP struggles a bit that he’s crap etc as we have been getting as time for judgement is at the end of this season or at least half a season.

If he doesn’t step up then fine he had his chance but some peeps on here really need to learn more patience and be less knee-jerk and give him time.

He’s one of us and people should want him to succeed, also look at someone like Patrice Evra who was absolute dog shit at first for Man U then after settling in team he got a lot better (that’s just an example not saying he will or will not get to that standard).

If he does settle in and shows his potential imagine how great it would be to have another home grown fixture in the team alongside Winks (who also is getting a bit of stick lately but I blame Poch naff midfield tactics personally) and Kane.

 

[DJS]

It's his size that worries me. He is not stocky either. He is built like a winger.
I had the same concerns about Trippier.
Wing-back is fine. Back 4 not so much.

I think we got spoilt by having the massive beast that was Kyle Walker at full back as remember at time thinking how awesome if was to have such a big lad at full back who was also very very fast.

A lot of full backs previously have been a bit shorter, it’s usually the centre backs who are the big bastards Lo, (aside from the legend that was Chris Perry!).

 

[Ronwol196061]

The way he is now I agree with those that think he is more of a wing back. I haven't seen too many great tackles from him as a back.Judging him against Sterling only is not 100% fair but I haven't been impressed with his defensive work generally. Id prefer Foyth if only for his get stuck in nature (he gets stuck in a bit too much ) but I still would prefer it. We need a quality Right back that's all. I just prefer a tougher right back.

 

[BENNO]

As plenty of others have written, i thought he had a decent enough game yesterday given that we were playing a superb team and he didn't exactly get tons of cover from our midfielders. Would also add that imo Sterling scores his goal against 99% of full backs as the ball in,and timing/speed of the run were just top class. Sure KWP could possibly have anticipated better and tried to go with his man, but imo he wouldn't have got close enough. The way to stop that goal is to stop the ball in,not blame the full back (imo).

Pretty sure he'll be playing the next couple of games as well and he'll have much easier time than he did yesterday,Newcastle are gash and Arsenal aren't particularly scary.

 

[BENNO]

The way he is now I agree with those that think he is more of a wing back. I haven't seen too many great tackles from him as a back.Judging him against Sterling only is not 100% fair but I haven't been impressed with his defensive work generally. Id prefer Foyth if only for his get stuck in nature (he gets stuck in a bit too much ) but I still would prefer it. We need a quality Right back that's all. I just prefer a tougher right back.

Games changed - can't think of too many top teams that have big hard tackling full backs, can you ? Game awareness and positioning are the key factors for a full back imo and he can only gain with experience.

 

[Ronwol196061]

Games changed - can't think of too many top teams that have big hard tackling full backs, can you ? Game awareness and positioning are the key factors for a full back imo and he can only gain with experience.

I think is positioning is questionable sometimes not bad sometimes not particulary good. Maybe he will get better