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Bus-Conductor

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Mate, I respect your views. But coming from the background that I have etc, and with my own eyes and ears knowing why it went tits up at PSG. There is 90% you are not aware of. Before he went to PSG, check out his Lens & Toulouse career.

Only time I will name drop is Henry was pushing goons to sign him, and raged about him. He has all the tools, and just needs to be coached and loved. The reason he got frozen out at PSG, was NOTHING to do with footballing reasons at all. There is more too it than that. He would of ended up at Yanited, If it wasn’t for a certain new scout we have, with his intel, and Daniel commandeering the best legal brains to do the deal.

Sometimes the fabs don’t know everything ?


I watched absolutely shitloads of Aurier while he was at Toulouse and he was just the same then. He's got some good qualities but he's always been rash, and I said that on here before we bought him. For the record, he also spent most of the last season at Toulouse playing LCB.

He got the hump at PSG because he wasn't getting regular games, at any time there, second fiddle to Van De Weil, started acting up and slagging off the manager (Blanc), basically because he wasn't picking every week.

Henry's a fucking plum, why would his opinion mean anything?
 

Hercules

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I watched absolutely shitloads of Aurier while he was at Toulouse and he was just the same then. He's got some good qualities but he's always been rash, and I said that on here before we bought him. For the record, he also spent most of the last season at Toulouse playing LCB.

He got the hump at PSG because he wasn't getting regular games, at any time there, second fiddle to Van De Weil, started acting up and slagging off the manager (Blanc), basically because he wasn't picking every week.

Henry's a fucking plum, why would his opinion mean anything?
As I said!!!
More to it than that! But will not disclose. Is he good enough? Well you may be right, but setting the record straight. Henry knows his stuff. I am not bias because he is who he is.
 

SpursD22

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The highlights of Alli’s Fortnite stream ft Kyle Walker-Peters & Shayon Harrison. Honestly KWP is so funny
 

Anurag Jo

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Sell Tripps and rotate KWP and Aurier as our full backs next season.

We could use the Tripps money to get a cm or acm in.
 

dondo

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Before Aurier came here he had a high stack appraisal. You cannot blame us going for him. Let’s see what he is like next season, and everyone inside is confident you will see s much different player. Trippier, I am not a fan of, and I know at least three opposition coaches who earmark him as our weakness when they played us. It so BLATANTLY OBVIOUS. If we are a T4, he has no place in our team to be perfectly honest.

Compare him to Citeh, Yanited, and Scoucers RB-No compare. He wouldn’t get near, and that is what we are aspiring to. Get on SA’s back after a full season, that involves a pre-season.


I do blame us for buying aurier and said so at the time. I knew nothing about aurier before we brought him and I not saying he is a terrible player but I believe in promoting our top youngsters and kwp has been one of if not that for a few years now
 

mill

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If the links today for Soares are true then I really can’t see any future here for kwp, seems unlikely we’d be looking to offload Trippier and aurier

Tbf it’s probably bollocks and the same story says we want neves and Martins too and itk’s previously said we won’t deal with Mendes and he represents neves, don’t know about the other two
 

king26

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If the links today for Soares are true then I really can’t see any future here for kwp, seems unlikely we’d be looking to offload Trippier and aurier

Tbf it’s probably bollocks and the same story says we want neves and Martins too and itk’s previously said we won’t deal with Mendes and he represents neves, don’t know about the other two
media shit
 

The Apprentice

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Sack Aurier off and get KWP playing regularly. Has a far higher ceiling.

No idea where this faith in Aurier is. A pre season isn’t going to improve his ability to cross, his decision making and his discomfort in possession.
 

Cravenspurs

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For @Trix , @Hercules, @WindyCOYS , @Spurzinho , @IGSpur :

How was KWP compared to Alexander Arnold? If I remember correctly KWP started on the left at the WC. Was that due to AA being the favorite at right back or because of the versatility of KWP? Or a mixture of both? I know AA has one hell of a right foot on him and looks to be a real classy player, but what are your thoughts?

If that has been discussed in here I am sorry.
 

mpickard2087

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For @Trix , @Hercules, @WindyCOYS , @Spurzinho , @IGSpur :

How was KWP compared to Alexander Arnold? If I remember correctly KWP started on the left at the WC. Was that due to AA being the favorite at right back or because of the versatility of KWP? Or a mixture of both? I know AA has one hell of a right foot on him and looks to be a real classy player, but what are your thoughts?

If that has been discussed in here I am sorry.

They didnt play in the same team. Jonjoe Kenny (Everton) was the RB in the World Cup team. I think the coach wanted both of them in the team, Kenny is/was a decent player at that level but more of a steady-eddie managers favourite type.

KWP could be a unique full back type, especially in England, if his game is harnessed and the systems he is played in his career suit his skillset. Obviously his dribbling talent is well known, but he has good ability to roam off the flank (whether left or right) and find pockets of space and to get involved, and then is able to play little give and go's/combinations/one-two's in tight spaces. He'd be a different option to your classic 'up and down the touchline' fullback - which is what TAA and most others are.
 

IGSpur

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For @Trix , @Hercules, @WindyCOYS , @Spurzinho , @IGSpur :

How was KWP compared to Alexander Arnold? If I remember correctly KWP started on the left at the WC. Was that due to AA being the favorite at right back or because of the versatility of KWP? Or a mixture of both? I know AA has one hell of a right foot on him and looks to be a real classy player, but what are your thoughts?

If that has been discussed in here I am sorry.

TAA was highly rated at Liverpool, but he was one of around 3 players that played for England on and off across 3 age groups, along with Kane and Ojo. The latter 2 were signed whereas TAA has always come through their academy so held in high esteem. In his age group though Edwards, Oxford, DaSilva and Oxford were the big talents. TAA was in and out of the age group and moved from AM, CM to eventually FB IIRC. As I say he was always highly rated at Liverpool, but only really started getting recognition when Klopp started giving him chances.

KWP since u18s, has played regularly for what was at the time England's strongest age group compared to TAA's being one of the weakest and him still being in and out. KWP was, I believe more highly rated from what I gathered as a RB, due to his talent's. That may be bias coming in but I'm fairly sure that was the general opinion from youth football at the time. KWP was really rated and everyone wanted him playing for England, if TAA missed out no one really cared but that was probably more when he was an AM/DM. Once he converted to FB, he was playing more regularly but as KWP had impressed there a lot more already I'm confident he was rated higher. However, once Klopp started giving TAA chances he elevated to a new level, to gradually become what he is today. Tbf to TAA he is 2 club year groups below KWP, so it goes to show how brave Klopp was to give him a chance. His rise is similar to Rashford's. Neither player playing regularly for their age group, until both given chances for whatever reason, then suddenly become the best player from that age group to most people. I reckon around 80/90% of the England players from the u18s age group up if given chances in Cups here and there will prove themselves as more than capable players, with some excelling more than others. TAA is one of those, a talented player given a chance doing really well. Not a star imo, but then again you don't have to be a star in your England age group nowadays to be good enough for PL football, you can just be one of the good players. Sadly, the stars are the ones rarely getting chances.

KWP would play on the left for England as he was more versatile, and Kenny was a favourite. KWP's England age group has never had a LB, most fans would prefer KWP on the right as he is more dynamic, while Kenny would be steady on the left, but KWP is a better attacker than Kenny on the left, so I think it offered better balance for that age group.
 

Frozen_Waffles

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I am going to get slated for this but I don't care...

I would play Trippier and KWP in the same team, Trippier playing right side of a three in midfield and KWP as your RB.

I think Trippier sometimes suffers from lack of pace, but he is a very good at his defensive duties. His crossing ability is second to none.

Think Beckham and Neville at United, that sort of combination, KWP makes the space and Trippier provides the crosses.

But what do I know.
 

Bus-Conductor

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I am going to get slated for this but I don't care...

I would play Trippier and KWP in the same team, Trippier playing right side of a three in midfield and KWP as your RB.

I think Trippier sometimes suffers from lack of pace, but he is a very good at his defensive duties. His crossing ability is second to none.

Think Beckham and Neville at United, that sort of combination, KWP makes the space and Trippier provides the crosses.

But what do I know.


This isn't the daftest idea at all. If you really think about it, the way we play our FB's are effectively midfielders already and if you compare the skillset of Trippier or, indeed, KWP, to someone like Sissoko for example, I think they'd be much better as CM's (especially in a CM3) as Sissoko is. It's not like either Trippier or KWP would be less dynamic or technically less able than most of our CM's.

I'd be more inclined to go with KWP as a CM in a similar way. Next to someone like Wanyama (especially in a CM3). He's technically superb, doesn't panic under pressure (FB's are always playing in tight spaces, squeezed up against the touch line), has a quick brain, can dribble out of trouble, but makes very good, quick choices when passing.

Guardiola is an exponent of the FB as CM.
 

DogsOfWar

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KWP has to be a one of the two rotational RB's next season.
Poch needs to put his balls on the line and decide which of the other two we move on this summer.
Personally, f*** ups aside, I like Aurier. It's a case of whether he can improve.
Trippier is fine for rotating but not a first choice so it depends on whether KWP is ready to be the main man in his first season which is a big ask.

Keeping Trippier is the safe option but I think we need to take a gamble on Aurier as we're already a decent team and need to take a chance if we want to improve.
 

C0YS

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I am going to get slated for this but I don't care...

I would play Trippier and KWP in the same team, Trippier playing right side of a three in midfield and KWP as your RB.

I think Trippier sometimes suffers from lack of pace, but he is a very good at his defensive duties. His crossing ability is second to none.

Think Beckham and Neville at United, that sort of combination, KWP makes the space and Trippier provides the crosses.

But what do I know.
The problem with that is because of Trippiers lack of pace you actually need to craft opportunities for him. Fullbacks are often the free men in the attacking third, play him elsewhere he may struggle to find the opportunities for him to cross.

I actually think KWP is someone who could play further forward as well, he wont because the competition there is just too strong, but he has many attacking qualities, and I think with the right coaching he could become a fairly regular goalscorer, mind he could become that at fullback, a bit like Alonso in that regard.
 

John48

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Seeing Alexander-Arnold in the CL semi & probably final will probably make him think twice about signing a new contract.
 

danielneeds

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The problem with that is because of Trippiers lack of pace you actually need to craft opportunities for him. Fullbacks are often the free men in the attacking third, play him elsewhere he may struggle to find the opportunities for him to cross.

I actually think KWP is someone who could play further forward as well, he wont because the competition there is just too strong, but he has many attacking qualities, and I think with the right coaching he could become a fairly regular goalscorer, mind he could become that at fullback, a bit like Alonso in that regard.
Yeah, Trippier is often ineffective when he has a direct opponent facing him up. Apart from those occasional little cute slide rule passes he fashions, he often just recycles the ball backwards. It's when you can get him the ball quickly, and he has open space in front of him to cross into, where he's dangerous.
 

Wheeler Dealer

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Sack Aurier off and get KWP playing regularly. Has a far higher ceiling.

No idea where this faith in Aurier is. A pre season isn’t going to improve his ability to cross, his decision making and his discomfort in possession.
Improving the brain is unfortunately not coach-able
 
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