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Metalhead

But that's a debate for another thread.....
Nov 24, 2013
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It's a disastrous appointment for them. He is completely wrecked and spent as a manager. His final days as England manager were shockingly clueless. I'd be very surprised if they stayed up. I'd be mildly surprised if they won a single game, tbh.
At least if they got Pardew back then you're guaranteed a decent run, albeit followed by a lengthy dodgy run.
 

glospur

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LOL apparently the Palace players were complaining that de Boer was showing them up in training. A piece I read said that on one occasion he took the ball out of the air with one touch, swiveled and then put it in the top corner with his next and it was though to be 'arrogant.'
 

GMI

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LOL apparently the Palace players were complaining that de Boer was showing them up in training. A piece I read said that on one occasion he took the ball out of the air with one touch, swiveled and then put it in the top corner with his next and it was though to be 'arrogant.'
Sounds like the Glenn Hoddle management dilemma i.e. what to do when your still a better player than your players! Was Glenn accused of showing up Beckham on the training ground when he was England manager?
 

Japhet

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De Boer was never a good fit at Palace. They expected him to instantly convert their playing style into something sexy and he was never going to be given time to do it. In this respect I admire Burnley who know where they stand in the pecking order. They know they are a yo yo club and accept it. They've stuck with Shaun Dyche because they know he's a good fit for what they can expect.
 

McArchibald

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LOL apparently the Palace players were complaining that de Boer was showing them up in training. A piece I read said that on one occasion he took the ball out of the air with one touch, swiveled and then put it in the top corner with his next and it was though to be 'arrogant.'

If that was the issue, then they've now got the right man in Roy Hodgeson. No chance of him doing that... ;)
 

spursfan77

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As Ive said above, I'd always believed that AVB was sacked, but not just himself, but ITK's have said otherwise, and I can believe that too, I think he'd got as pissed off with the situation too.

He got sacked after losing 0-5 at home to (Suarez) Liverpool (with ten men for half a game - something Liverpool had done the previous game to Arsenal) prior to that we'd beaten Sunderland away, Fulham away and drawn at home to ManU. Hardly a string of bad results. We were siting around 5th/6th about 4 points off 4th I think.

I just think it's massively over simplistic to talk about his "weaknesses" and not consider the whole picture and circumstances of what was going on at the club at that time. A plethora of quality (some absolute top quality) players went, the replacements were mostly of a much lower standard, Sherwood, Freund, Adebayor stinking out the place, maybe with others such as Kabul, Lennon etc. The whole Baldini debacle.

The point is, when Adebayor acted up for AVB was he backed by Levy in how he wanted to deal with it ? ITK says not. Poch was, that's the difference, because coaches rarely have the final say on issues like this, chairman do, and as others have pointed out on here it's invariably players who get backed, not coaches, Poch has been an exception to this, and look at the benefit. Maybe if AVB was backed the same, and had been a bit lucky with his timing re players - he basically caught us in a genuine complete transition, from The Redknapp era where as well as players like Modric coming to fruition, Levy had been talked into bringing in players like Gallas, Adebayor, Parker, VDV all of whom had limited shelf lives.

I've never claimed AVB was the messiah, or faultless, or didn't make mistakes, he did, but I think comparing his circumstances with the managers the preceded and followed him, he definitely had the hardest task, and didn't do a terrible job.

Pochettino's first season, even with Kane wasn't much better than AVB's last. AVB did perfectly fine with us, more than acceptable I'd say, and has been successful elsewhere, in more conducive circumstances, doesn't prove he's one of the best, but proves he's decent enough and not got too many inherent "weaknesses".

Plus we had sherwood running to his mate Ashton at the Mail who was giving him shit in the papers for a couple of weeks beforehand because sherwood was trying to undermine AVB to get the manager job
 

VegasII

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Maybe Palace's American owners are planning on turning Hodgson into WoboWoy...
 

'O Zio

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Plus we had sherwood running to his mate Ashton at the Mail who was giving him shit in the papers for a couple of weeks beforehand because sherwood was trying to undermine AVB to get the manager job

Ashton is such a ****. Makes sense that he's mates with Captain Bellend then.
 

nailsy

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Jul 24, 2005
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Sean Teales comments on Twitter following Redknapp getting sacked by Birmingham....

"Redknapp sacked laughing my cock off ...go and crawl back under your stone saggy bollock face"
 

Dougal

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Jun 4, 2004
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Craig Shakespeare on his way out. Good. Seemed to take the credit for the League triumph and dismiss Ranieri early, like many of the players. But where were they before him and where are they without him?
 

WalkerboyUK

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Jun 8, 2009
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Craig Shakespeare on his way out. Good. Seemed to take the credit for the League triumph and dismiss Ranieri early, like many of the players. But where were they before him and where are they without him?

To be fair to Shakespeare - it seems it was the players that forced Ranieri out and wanted Shakespeare in charge. You reap what you sow!
 

montylynch

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Jun 23, 2005
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Odd....thought they played OK last night to be fair, lacked a bit up front and Mahrez missed a sitter but i thought they looked OK. Wonder who they've got their eye on.....
 
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