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The Naming Rights Thread

Spurs 1961

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Morning.. pinch of salt time.. I work in travel and was just speaking to our Qatar account rep..was joking about naming rights and she smiled and said wait for an announcement on the 7th March at a big travel event in Berlin..could be just a wind up but thought worth sharing as known her for years and never normally one to wind me up.

I was looking through the thread wondering where Qatar came into things. Now you may be right but I doubt very much whether an account rep would have such carefully guarded information.
 

Lilbaz

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I still think that WC will be moved to either Australia, the states or England

Only if the standoff between them and the other me countries gets more aggressive. Otherwise i think it will. The qataris would sue fifa for everything it's worth if it moved it without strong legal basis.
 

Saoirse

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If it does get moved I think it will be to England. Australia is a nightmare because of the kick-off times - every reasonable time ends up being in the middle of the night or early morning in Europe, and most of them nighttimes in North America too, it'd kill the value of the TV rights. The USA was meant to be the leading contender for 2026 (jointly with Canada and Mexico), but that seems to have hit problems with FIFA - Morocco is making moves and the orange imbecile in the White House probably ain't the figurehead for FIFA's PR revival - either they do want the US in which case they'll win 2026 on their own merits, or they don't in which case they won't want to give them 2022 either. England meanwhile could host at quite short notice and importantly seems to have UEFA support - they've given England (and the rest of the UK) way above their share of European finals, not to mention the semi finals and finals of Euro 2020, and then thrown in a pack of group stage and knockout games too after Belgium had to withdraw. Not to mention that I expect after this year there won't be much appetite to wait until 2030 for a World Cup which is really in Europe (sorry Putin!) having not had one since 2006.
 

RichieS

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If it does get moved I think it will be to England. Australia is a nightmare because of the kick-off times - every reasonable time ends up being in the middle of the night or early morning in Europe, and most of them nighttimes in North America too, it'd kill the value of the TV rights. The USA was meant to be the leading contender for 2026 (jointly with Canada and Mexico), but that seems to have hit problems with FIFA - Morocco is making moves and the orange imbecile in the White House probably ain't the figurehead for FIFA's PR revival - either they do want the US in which case they'll win 2026 on their own merits, or they don't in which case they won't want to give them 2022 either. England meanwhile could host at quite short notice and importantly seems to have UEFA support - they've given England (and the rest of the UK) way above their share of European finals, not to mention the semi finals and finals of Euro 2020, and then thrown in a pack of group stage and knockout games too after Belgium had to withdraw. Not to mention that I expect after this year there won't be much appetite to wait until 2030 for a World Cup which is really in Europe (sorry Putin!) having not had one since 2006.
Germany and Spain would also be options. Possibly France as well.
 

Bulletspur

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Nope. It was actually a journalist (ken jones) that said it and burkinshaw nodded in agreement. It was a twist on an old sinatra song "there used to be a ball park".
I stand corrected sir, Always attributed it to good old Keith
 

chinaman

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Nope. It was actually a journalist (ken jones) that said it and burkinshaw nodded in agreement. It was a twist on an old sinatra song "there used to be a ball park".


Ken Jones was the uncle of our legend Cliff Jones.
 

Sweech

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Really, really hope it is Qatar Airways. We need to get to the next level and that aint happening with HP. Do we want to compete with Man City or just the top 4?

Some of the comments are ridiculous from the over-righteous .
A $200 million naming rights deal from HP would be the exact same as a $200 million naming rights deal from Qatari Airways.

This isn't an ownership thing.
 

Armstrong_11

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A $200 million naming rights deal from HP would be the exact same as a $200 million naming rights deal from Qatari Airways.

This isn't an ownership thing.

Maybe the Qatari's cash has a little bit of petroleum dripping from it. :)

If it does get moved I think it will be to England. Australia is a nightmare because of the kick-off times - every reasonable time ends up being in the middle of the night or early morning in Europe, and most of them nighttimes in North America too, it'd kill the value of the TV rights.

It's the same as if it was in Japan/Korea. It won't be in Europe for back to back world cups. It's call the World Cup for a reason. It has to travel the world. U guys finally have a chance to understand what's it's like waking up at 2.45am/3.45am WEEKLY to watch any mid week matches.
 

Saoirse

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Maybe the Qatari's cash has a little bit of petroleum dripping from it. :)



It's the same as if it was in Japan/Korea. It won't be in Europe for back to back world cups. It's call the World Cup for a reason. It has to travel the world. U guys finally have a chance to understand what's it's like waking up at 2.45am/3.45am WEEKLY to watch any mid week matches.
True, there were some very early games in the Japan/South Korea tournament - 7.30AM for instance in the UK, but the bigger games tended to be later for that reason at 12.30PM. People were at the least awake and often able to have it on in the background. Despite that and the fact those times would've been an hour later in e.g. France, Germany and Italy, the viewing figures in Europe fell by over a third from the previous tournament. It obviously had the advantage of increasing revenues and exposure substantially in Asia, which was a growing market, which wouldn't happen with Australia. It'd also massively hurt the NA market which is much bigger now than it was in 2002. There would be very little upside to it and it the absolute last thing FIFA would need at a time when their brand and the reputation of the World Cup was at greater risk than ever before. In that situation you want a tournament where you can guarantee at least good to decent TV audiences, visible excitement in the host country, and a lot of travelling fans.

Moscow to London is over 1500 miles, I think that counts as travelling - it's not as though it's going to be easily reachable or a familiar culture for western European fans, and now has any tournament since 2006. Those countries account for over 50% of all World Cups won (with the rest being South Americans), 6 of the present top 10 ranked nations, most of the travelling fans, all the world's biggest clubs and a dominant role in footballing history. Hosting one World Cup after 16 years doesn't exactly seem disproportionate. Personally I think having the World Cup rotate so it's in a major footballing country once every 8 years, with the tournaments in-between being in more developing footballing regions (U.S.A., South Africa, Russia, China etc) would make a lot of sense. The idea that it's going to go 24 years without being within 1,000 miles of what's effectively football's home, and that even letting one of those countries be a backup after 16 is unfair, seems ludicrous.

If you want to watch foreign leagues and tournaments that's fine, all power to you, but it does mean kick-off times will often be silly. The World Cup isn't there to compensate you for that. If you want sensible kick-off times on a weekly basis, go and watch your domestic league where I'm sure matches don't start at 2.30 in the morning.
 

Lemon

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This is exactly the time to accept less, on grounds of morality, in my opinion.

HP, HP, HP.

Beautiful shirt colour if they double dip sponsor...

How about Berkshire Hathaway? Warren Buffet said Trumps Corp Tax rate cut just made them $20B, could throw a couple our way for the Berkshire Hathaway Stadium. Would make me a little less sick feeling...
 

WalkerboyUK

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What happened to the HSBC rumour ??
Had a letter today from MBNA regarding my credit card, saying partnership with Spurs ends 31st May...
To me, that would tie in with naming rights being bank related.
 

kmk

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What happened to the HSBC rumour ??
Had a letter today from MBNA regarding my credit card, saying partnership with Spurs ends 31st May...
To me, that would tie in with naming rights being bank related.

MBNA seem to be ending partnerships with other companies too including Virgin Atlantic.
 

absolute bobbins

Am Yisrael Chai
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This is exactly the time to accept less, on grounds of morality, in my opinion.

HP, HP, HP.

Beautiful shirt colour if they double dip sponsor...

How about Berkshire Hathaway? Warren Buffet said Trumps Corp Tax rate cut just made them $20B, could throw a couple our way for the Berkshire Hathaway Stadium. Would make me a little less sick feeling...
Have a look at the Berkshire website, they don't care about brand exposure
 
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