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The Poch has been confirmed as manager thread!

KILLA_SIN

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cant see ade soldado paulinho or dembele pressing the ball like the southampton players do

Soldado has worked hard off the ball this season and Dembo is probably our hardest working player off the ball I just think this season players have simply given up with the regime and stopped working for the manager.

Anyway I would be accept Pochettino. His teams work hard off the ball I think this is Spurs achilles heel and has been for a while we have simply in to many games been outworked. I think Poch would sort that out very quickly. I think hes also manager that works players hard on the training ground. I remember this quote, “He makes you work like a dog. Sometimes you feel like killing him, but it works,” said Osvaldo. [http://www.yorkpress.co.uk/news/10620555.Pochettino_shows_his_faith_in_Osvaldo/?ref=rc]

And I dont think we can take too much from the two defeats we gave S'oton I mean we beat Martinez's Wigan 9-0 and hes better a manager for it.
 
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neogenisis

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FDB is my first choice, but I'd be happy enough with Pochettino. However, my one concern with him was the way he simply tossed away Southampton's FA Cup match up at Sunderland by playing a weakened side. Like someone said before, how will he handle two games a week for the whole season

I dont think it was that weakened, i watched it they were just shit on the day.

  • 01 Davis
  • 02 Clyne
  • 23 Shaw
  • 12 Wanyama
  • 03 Yoshida Booked
  • 26 Hooiveld
  • 16 Ward-Prowse (Schneiderlin - 62' )
  • 08 Davis Booked
  • 07 Lambert
  • 20 Lallana (McQueen - 82' )
  • 21 Do Prado (Rodriguez - 62' Booked )
Weakened yes but not outrageous.
 

SEANSPURS1975

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Not what we need. Needs repeating again and again.....We need an experienced coach who has a history of winning trophies. Our current squad is in absolute disarray. Players unhappy, some possibly looking to leave. We need a manager who will have their instant respect the minute they they walk though the door.
The last thing we need is a novice manager taking charge of our squad. We'll be back to square one.
Who do you think the likes of Vertonghen, Lloris, Paulinho, Eriksen etc would want to see as manager?
Benitez/De Boer or Pochetinno?
Would be underwhelmed to say the least if our next manager was Pochetinno...
 

Blake Griffin

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Oct 3, 2011
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Not what we need. Needs repeating again and again.....We need an experienced coach who has a history of winning trophies. Our current squad is in absolute disarray. Players unhappy, some possibly looking to leave. We need a manager who will have their instant respect the minute they they walk though the door.
The last thing we need is a novice manager taking charge of our squad. We'll be back to square one.
Who do you think the likes of Vertonghen, Lloris, Paulinho, Eriksen etc would want to see as manager?
Benitez/De Boer or Pochetinno?
Would be underwhelmed to say the least if our next manager was Pochetinno...

benitez:
la liga winner x2
champions league winner + runner up
europa league winner
uefa cup winner
fa cup winner
coppa italia winner
uefa super cup winner
fifa world club cup winner
uefa manager of the year x2

de boer:
won the dutch league x4


sorry, but de boer cannot be paired with benitez.
 

TheGreenLily

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I don't want him very much, better than Sherwood but I don't see much future with him. I could be wrong, I just don't see it.
He is a not just yet man.

Personally, I think he should stay at Southampton for a couple more seasons and learn more, IMO. It is great having a good first season, but I think he still needs to prove over time if he can keep on improving.
 

greaves

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benitez:
la liga winner x2
champions league winner + runner up
europa league winner
uefa cup winner
fa cup winner
coppa italia winner
uefa super cup winner
fifa world club cup winner
uefa manager of the year x2

de boer:
won the dutch league x4


sorry, but de boer cannot be paired with benitez.

Serious and innocent question: which will more likely choose to play the most attractive football?
 

Blake Griffin

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Serious and innocent question: which will more likely choose to play the most attractive football?

attractive is purely subjective so it depends what you like. for example i'm not a fan of having 70% of the ball and doing nothing with it but for others that's football utopia.
 

JUSTINSIGNAL

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Not what we need. Needs repeating again and again.....We need an experienced coach who has a history of winning trophies. Our current squad is in absolute disarray. Players unhappy, some possibly looking to leave. We need a manager who will have their instant respect the minute they they walk though the door.
The last thing we need is a novice manager taking charge of our squad. We'll be back to square one.
Who do you think the likes of Vertonghen, Lloris, Paulinho, Eriksen etc would want to see as manager?
Benitez/De Boer or Pochetinno?
Would be underwhelmed to say the least if our next manager was Pochetinno...

As I have already said, surely you need to look at the impact Rodgers had on the Liverpool squad as proof that a strong philosophy can gain the players respect as much as trophies won could.
 

shelfboy68

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Not what we need. Needs repeating again and again.....We need an experienced coach who has a history of winning trophies. Our current squad is in absolute disarray. Players unhappy, some possibly looking to leave. We need a manager who will have their instant respect the minute they they walk though the door.
The last thing we need is a novice manager taking charge of our squad. We'll be back to square one.
Who do you think the likes of Vertonghen, Lloris, Paulinho, Eriksen etc would want to see as manager?
Benitez/De Boer or Pochetinno?
Would be underwhelmed to say the least if our next manager was Pochetinno...

Couldn't have said it better we need a proven successful candidate which would instantly galvanise the squad.
 

spursfan77

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Aug 13, 2005
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If he is going to be our new manager or at least have an interview lets back him now by at least giving him his own thread for discussion, so I hope we do back him and don't throw our toys out of the pram because we didn't get FDB as it's obvious he is general favourite

I've a feeling the majority of people will back whoever it is as long as it's not sherwood!

That's my feeling anyway.
 

HildoSpur

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Oct 1, 2005
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He just is not what we need right now - experience over everything else please. I want Benitez - if not him then I can see that FDB could be a reasonable alternative though I am not convinced by him yet.
 

The Scarecrow

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I've a feeling the majority of people will back whoever it is as long as it's not sherwood!

That's my feeling anyway.
I think that's right. When AVB was appointed, all the Harry fans turned against him immediately, but this time we're all united in our lack of love for Tactics Tim.
 

TH1239

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benitez:
la liga winner x2
champions league winner + runner up
europa league winner
uefa cup winner
fa cup winner
coppa italia winner
uefa super cup winner
fifa world club cup winner
uefa manager of the year x2

de boer:
won the dutch league x4


sorry, but de boer cannot be paired with benitez.

You've conveniently left out De Boer's playing career, where he won numerous trophies. As much as people try to downplay it, that matters to today's players. They will respect him when he walks through the door, as he has been where they'd like to be some day, and he can relate to most of our 1st team squad far better than Benitez.

The biggest reason why Pochettino would be a worse choice than De Boer is that he doesn't have the cache to keep our best players. I like him as a manager, but we cannot afford to lose Lloris and Vertonghen this window. They aren't replaceable, no matter how many people foolishly think Cardiff's backline are just as good.
 

Syn_13

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Jul 17, 2008
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How close is Poch with his players? I'm not asking because I want to speculate whether he'd bring along the likes of Shaw and Lallana, as they're probably looking to go to clubs more successful than ours, but I want to know how he treats his players and how they see him. I think our squad morale is at an all-time low and I'd love the new coach to come in and give them something to want to fight for.

If he's close with the players at Southampton and leaves then a few may end up leaving regardless. They may end up struggling a lot.
 

Blake Griffin

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You've conveniently left out De Boer's playing career, where he won numerous trophies. As much as people try to downplay it, that matters to today's players. They will respect him when he walks through the door, as he has been where they'd like to be some day, and he can relate to most of our 1st team squad far better than Benitez.

The biggest reason why Pochettino would be a worse choice than De Boer is that he doesn't have the cache to keep our best players. I like him as a manager, but we cannot afford to lose Lloris and Vertonghen this window. They aren't replaceable, no matter how many people foolishly think Cardiff's backline are just as good.

i didn't conveniently leave anything out. would sir alex, arsene and jose not be respected as much by our players then? afterall, they hardly had successful playing careers. as for poch not being able to keep our best players, i think the only player that would apply to is vertonghen(only because he's worked under de boer before), i doubt lloris is going to be thinking oh là là at the prospect of being managed by an eredivisie manager. whoever's in charge is way down the list of importance for a player .. as long as they're getting paid, the club are doing well and they're playing, i doubt they care greatly who's putting out the cones in training. as vertonghen himself pretty much said upon joining us.

tim sherwood captained a side to the premier league title, just ask sandro how much respect he has for him.
 
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greaves

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attractive is purely subjective so it depends what you like. for example i'm not a fan of having 70% of the ball and doing nothing with it but for others that's football utopia.

I guess the 'Spurs' attractive, the rough idea being to play fast, attacking, creative/intoxicating football.
 

SEANSPURS1975

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benitez:
la liga winner x2
champions league winner + runner up
europa league winner
uefa cup winner
fa cup winner
coppa italia winner
uefa super cup winner
fifa world club cup winner
uefa manager of the year x2

de boer:
won the dutch league x4


sorry, but de boer cannot be paired with benitez.

Not comparing Benitez and De Boers managerial career. But for me Benitez and De Boer are the outstanding candidates. Obviously Benitez has won a lot more and is the more experienced manager. For De Boer, even though it's 'only' Holland, to win a record 4 championships in row is a great achievement. Ajax hadn't won the league for 6 years.
Both are proven winners.
They both walk into that weak dressing room and will get instant respect.
 

Blake Griffin

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I guess the 'Spurs' attractive, the rough idea being to play fast, attacking, creative/intoxicating football.

that's not really de boer's thing though, is it? i thought he was from the pep guardiola school of scoring a goal = loss of possession.
 

XSuicideBunnyX

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that's not really de boer's thing though, is it? i thought he was from the pep guardiola school of scoring a goal = loss of possession.
The manager at Ajax doesn't really get a say in the formation - it's 4-3-3 or bust.

I think it's more like Martinez's 4-3-3, where the defensive mid drops into the back line so you end up with a very fluid 3-7 attacking formation.
 
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