mpickard2087
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Ah bollocks.
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LeSoupeKitchen
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Stupid fucking sport
Luka Van der Bale
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Allez les Bleus!!!!!!
England should have won that. Only themselves to blame though. Terrible start and poor decision making in the first half.
Plenty of positives for England given the inexperience. Will be a better side for it.
I repeat, I still hate Alex Goode with a passion. He don't come on after five minutes and England win.
Plenty of positives for England given the inexperience. Will be a better side for it.
I repeat, I still hate Alex Goode with a passion. He don't come on after five minutes and England win.
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no Grandslam for the Ruperts then?
nightgoat
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I don't think there will be a Grand Slam again this year.
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Good effort, need to learn from this. Pack was good. Nowell not ready for international rugby yet. Farrell surprised with a couple of good breaks. Morgan must come from the bench because he always makes an impact.
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Looking at it with the emotion gone, it was a good game of rugby, for all the errors.
The back five of the pack all had good games, as did Care and Farrell, who I hope has given some of his detractors something to think about. There are going to be some very good players in that team in a year or two - and the tribesman in me hopes it's in a year!
When the injured 3/4s come back I think the back line will be pretty useful too. Manu with 36 in the centre. Burrell and Barritt on the bench, and healthy competition for wing places with no debutant nerves.
On the subject of tribalism, can we please avoid this thread descending into silly expressions of delight that a particular team lost, whichever team that may be.
The back five of the pack all had good games, as did Care and Farrell, who I hope has given some of his detractors something to think about. There are going to be some very good players in that team in a year or two - and the tribesman in me hopes it's in a year!
When the injured 3/4s come back I think the back line will be pretty useful too. Manu with 36 in the centre. Burrell and Barritt on the bench, and healthy competition for wing places with no debutant nerves.
On the subject of tribalism, can we please avoid this thread descending into silly expressions of delight that a particular team lost, whichever team that may be.
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Only having a laugh, thats what rugby is all about after all - being able to socially interact with opposition supporters without things turning nasty. But if you really don't want a bit of gentle ribbing I'll desist.
mpickard2087
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I think stage fright led to a slow start, and then after getting back into the game we ran out of backs (both wings injured apparently, Farrell still on but running lame) and to their credit they stretched us from side to side and ran in a good try.
I think some of the subs were a mistake. I'm no fan of Care in an England shirt usually but he was having a good game and driving things, why take him off. Tom Youngs is also struggling since the new laws put a bit more emphasis on the traditional role of Hooking and that's two games in a row where he has come on and momentum has been lost. We'll never know what would have happened if he had found his man with that lineout deep on the 5 metre line, but there seems to be an issue with him finding his man.
As for the noobs... May got crocked and this could have made the difference, two of their tries came about because the stand in got gassed on the outside down that wing. Nowell found things difficult and made quite a few errors. Burrell defended well and ran a good support for his try.
As for the rest, the pack largely did pretty well bar the scrums. Brown was everywhere as usual. Goode did some things well but then has his moments where you realise why you don't want him near the team. I think Twelvetrees has to come under the spotlight. He doesn't look comfortable nor is he making things happen. Farrell had a good game and if only he had some support on his left shoulder when he broke through...
Not a disaster, expected a couple of losses this time out with the amount of rookies in the backline. Just got to keep learning and building towards the World Cup.
I think some of the subs were a mistake. I'm no fan of Care in an England shirt usually but he was having a good game and driving things, why take him off. Tom Youngs is also struggling since the new laws put a bit more emphasis on the traditional role of Hooking and that's two games in a row where he has come on and momentum has been lost. We'll never know what would have happened if he had found his man with that lineout deep on the 5 metre line, but there seems to be an issue with him finding his man.
As for the noobs... May got crocked and this could have made the difference, two of their tries came about because the stand in got gassed on the outside down that wing. Nowell found things difficult and made quite a few errors. Burrell defended well and ran a good support for his try.
As for the rest, the pack largely did pretty well bar the scrums. Brown was everywhere as usual. Goode did some things well but then has his moments where you realise why you don't want him near the team. I think Twelvetrees has to come under the spotlight. He doesn't look comfortable nor is he making things happen. Farrell had a good game and if only he had some support on his left shoulder when he broke through...
Not a disaster, expected a couple of losses this time out with the amount of rookies in the backline. Just got to keep learning and building towards the World Cup.
I hear Nowell was getting a bit of stick on social media etc
He had a dodgy start but he grew in to the game and did some good things. He has a brain too. I hope we stick with him.
Care was excellent, he and Marler shouldn't have gone off when they did. Farrell played well, some encouraging signs from him. Fair play to him.
Agree wholeheartedly about 36 Pickard. For me Eastmond is breathing right down his neck. He needs to bring more to the table.
Lawes was very impressive. Launchbury always is.
I'm worried about Cole. Does the man need a rest? He seems to play every minute of every game for England and Leicester. Been that way for over a year now, which coincides with his drop in form. Shame Wilson isn't fit at the moment.
He had a dodgy start but he grew in to the game and did some good things. He has a brain too. I hope we stick with him.
Care was excellent, he and Marler shouldn't have gone off when they did. Farrell played well, some encouraging signs from him. Fair play to him.
Agree wholeheartedly about 36 Pickard. For me Eastmond is breathing right down his neck. He needs to bring more to the table.
Lawes was very impressive. Launchbury always is.
I'm worried about Cole. Does the man need a rest? He seems to play every minute of every game for England and Leicester. Been that way for over a year now, which coincides with his drop in form. Shame Wilson isn't fit at the moment.
mpickard2087
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Yeah Nowell stuck at it to his credit, things just didn't go his way. A couple of times he beat a man and then his offload was intercepted or he was turned over because support didn't get to him quick enough. Young kid who may not be first choice but can do a decent shift at fullback or wing going forward.
I think for this tournament we may as well pick Barritt and Burrell to just run straight and try and punch some holes and then our pack take over and just concentrate on going forward. Then maybe bring Ford off the bench for Farrell or move him to 12 if we wanted better distribution.
Cole needs to work on his scrum technique. He spent a long time getting better round the park and now with the rule changes finds his scrum work isn't what it was. Wilson is a big old lump and maybe be better at this time, if he gets fit.
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Unless Ireland surprise us today then I think you're right.
Wales looked very shaky, France relied on England making some silly mistakes and I think England did enough to suggest they'll cause every team problems.
I think it's all been said already but there were positives and negatives for England.
Care and Farrell looked good (Care's slightly dodgy box-kicking aside) and the forwards generally did quite well.
We again looked out of sorts in the centres, and 36 still hasn't impressed me at all in an England shirt. Nowell did well enough once his nerves had settled, and hopefully May will get another chance in the next game because Goode was far too easily exposed at times.
I can't quite work out if Brown made a mistake for the first try or not. Other than that he was excellent again and the subs also made a decent impact.
Apart from Twelvetrees I'm not sure what else I'd change in the next game. Just need to be a bit more clinical and I think we'll be okay.
mpickard2087
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Probably slightly out of position, both too deep and too close to the touchline meaning he got taken out of the game easily. Slight mistake, not the worst ever.
Second try he got done by the bounce, blame should go to Goode who somehow got beaten in less than a yard of space down the outside. Then I think Nowell got attracted to the ball and also got done by the bounce, whereas if he anticipates and holds back instead of charging towards it with Brown there already then he might (hoping here really) pick it up instead of the French player.
Third try he did miss a tackle on the left in the build up, which was probably the biggest error he made. Though Burrell came off the wing on the opposite side too early in the killer phase of play.
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I think he's probably safe on the grounds that there isn't really anyone who would be an obvious improvement.
There was probably enough in that England performance to say that the same team should start again but we need a bit more creativity which 36 needs to provide.
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