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Lighty64

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I get every one of your points above and in the main agree. But here is where I'm coming from in my original post... Joe Lewis pumping in 150 Million to KEEP us in the CL..by doing just that one act you keep bringing money from CL and winning the odd trophy. I dont want us to BUY trophies like City or that Scum team from West London....

agree it would be nice if Lewis done something like that, but according to @am_yisrael_chai Lewis has no interest in football, even though he was the one that wanted Poch. so he just doesn't like it enough to part with his own money, even though he gave us 50m for the stadium.

the trouble is they are an investment company, and like any owner wants to make the value of their assets, and building a stadium and purchased 23 of our 28 players, and a manager that over his time has brought the 5 youth players through to the 1st team, that have got us to a 5th, 3rd, 2nd, 3rd & ? currently 3rd, at a time we have been building a stadium.

I like the Liverpool model even though some on here are selective with the facts... Theyve sold one or 2 assets and reinvested. So yes they've spent big BUT their net spend is respectable. I dont even want us to buy 60-80 million pound players..... just move on some of the speculative purchases we made and move on players in the current squad who have stagnated and refresh the team.

unfortunately to take us forwards we need those 60-80m players to take us to the next level, unless we can unearth hidden talent, like Brooks and Maddison. we definitely need to get rid of the deadwood as I disagree with what @am_yisrael_chai said about the small cost of paying a guess of 12.5m to players that won't have anything to do but sit at home on their PS4's. that 12.5m could go towards getting in the next batch of youth players, and with City likely to get a 2 window ban like Chelsea now would be the time to strike.

trouble is selling a player like Wanyama because of his injury issues, and also selling other players that won't go because they won't take a big wage drop. the club won't want to take massive hits at the moment because to buy the players we need and who Poch wants cost money, and until we sort a namings right out, get in the stadium without giving massive refunds back to those that refuse to go to Wembley and all at a time, we have had delays that to repair has been overly costly.

I cant wait 10 yrs to pay off a stadium to finally compete and win trophies. Look at Arsenalnow the stadium is paid up by the squad was neglected for years... I dont want us following that model.

you obviously haven't been following to closely. there is no way we will get such a poor namings right deal as they did. we have more corporate than them, 2,062 bigger crowd, and a stadium built for multi purpose use.

the downside though is it has cost a lot more to build than they paid, but the TV pay is a lot higher. I expect it will effect us a lot more than it was before the cost went up due to Brexit and the delays, but we are going to have to be patient and hope for the best, even if it does take 10 years.
 

synththfc

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A Bola saying we sent scouts to watch Benficas new Ronaldo 'Jota'.

Saw this kid in the Euro under 19s and he was different gravy. Got great close control and silky skills.

Personally don't think we'll take the risk as he'll cost huge money. A shame as he's likely to shine on the biggest of stages.

30m euro release clause. Right in our ballpark.

Jason Burt of the telegraph saying we're interested as well, might be something in this.
 

nedley

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30m euro release clause. Right in our ballpark.

Jason Burt of the telegraph saying we're interested as well, might be something in this.

Didn't realise that.

Still can't see us triggering that for a player who's not really played much for Benfica
 

synththfc

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Didn't realise that.

Still can't see us triggering that for a player who's not really played much for Benfica

I agree, but would be v happy if we did. This is the type of player we need if we can't get the already established ndombeles, de jongs/ligts etc.
 

double0

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Honestly, if you’re Harry Kane/Dele Alli and you read that cobbled-together party line bollocks, which is basically Levy telling the Trust that someone else can invest in the team because ENIC have built the infrastructure and they aren’t going to bloody well do it, you can forgive them for saying ‘fuck this shit’.

If Joe Lewis doesn’t want to play the game the other top clubs are playing then he’d be better off just selling the club to someone who will.

Given the financial muscle in the league now, even from teams like Wolves and Everton we’ll drop like a stone if ENIC think they can just carry on as they have been.
Its not in there interest to drop and devalue their asset... Our level is pretty tricky in that we need to get the right players within our budget we can't panic buy and spend £50M on a player the quality of say Sigurdsson that ain't going to get us to where we need to be. We need to be patient and ready to strike when the right players come on the market.

I think (Grealish £35M), (Brooks £45M,) (Aarons £20M) under £100M is good deal or £100M on a really top class player with one potential player thrown in.
 

EQP

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Its not in there interest to drop and devalue their asset... Our level is pretty tricky in that we need to get the right players within our budget we can't panic buy and spend £50M on a player the quality of say Sigurdsson that ain't going to get us to where we need to be. We need to be patient and ready to strike when the right players come on the market.

I think (Grealish £35M), (Brooks £45M,) (Aarons £20M) under £100M is good deal or £100M on a really top class player with one potential player thrown in.

Think we'll go Grealish (£35M), Bowen (£25M) and Rekeem Harper from WBA for free. Brooks just signed a contract extension so no point even looking his way.
 

Jaddas

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Is it just me, or is talk of Grealish a little underwhelming considering we were so close to De Jong only 8 months ago (as per JJ the other day)? A bit of a come down, probably similar to how a crack head feels half hour after he's finished his stash!

One is potentially world class who is only 20/21 and played in Champions League. The other is admittedly doing well in the Championship but will be 24 in 6 months.

Not knocking Grealish, who I think will be a good EPL player, but I think there are better out there (at similar prices), whether in the Championship or abroad.
 
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hutchiniho

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Is it just me, or is talk of Grealish a little underwhelming considering we were so close to De Jong only 8 months ago? A bit of a come down, probably similar to how a crack head feels half hour after he's finished his stash!

One is potentially world class who is only 20/21 and played in Champions League. The other is admittedly doing well in the Championship but will be 24 in 6 months.

Not knocking Grealish, who I think will be a good EPL player, but I think there are better out there (at similar prices), whether in the Championship or abroad.

Trouble is, I’m reality we have nowhere near the international standing or wage structure to get a player like DeJong. To be fair no one is in Barcelona’s prestige bracket but still we have to go shopping in different places.
Maybe Grealish is more us? :-/
 

EQP

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Is it just me, or is talk of Grealish a little underwhelming considering we were so close to De Jong only 8 months ago? A bit of a come down, probably similar to how a crack head feels half hour after he's finished his stash!

One is potentially world class who is only 20/21 and played in Champions League. The other is admittedly doing well in the Championship but will be 24 in 6 months.

Not knocking Grealish, who I think will be a good EPL player, but I think there are better out there (at similar prices), whether in the Championship or abroad.

We need players to fill the HG quota so we'll do a decent amount of deals in the Championship IMO. Upside is Poch has a knack for helping young British talent develop into stars. Out of curiosity, what other player in the Championship is a better option than Grealish?
 

hutchiniho

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agree it would be nice if Lewis done something like that, but according to @am_yisrael_chai Lewis has no interest in football, even though he was the one that wanted Poch. so he just doesn't like it enough to part with his own money, even though he gave us 50m for the stadium.

the trouble is they are an investment company, and like any owner wants to make the value of their assets, and building a stadium and purchased 23 of our 28 players, and a manager that over his time has brought the 5 youth players through to the 1st team, that have got us to a 5th, 3rd, 2nd, 3rd & ? currently 3rd, at a time we have been building a stadium.



unfortunately to take us forwards we need those 60-80m players to take us to the next level, unless we can unearth hidden talent, like Brooks and Maddison. we definitely need to get rid of the deadwood as I disagree with what @am_yisrael_chai said about the small cost of paying a guess of 12.5m to players that won't have anything to do but sit at home on their PS4's. that 12.5m could go towards getting in the next batch of youth players, and with City likely to get a 2 window ban like Chelsea now would be the time to strike.

trouble is selling a player like Wanyama because of his injury issues, and also selling other players that won't go because they won't take a big wage drop. the club won't want to take massive hits at the moment because to buy the players we need and who Poch wants cost money, and until we sort a namings right out, get in the stadium without giving massive refunds back to those that refuse to go to Wembley and all at a time, we have had delays that to repair has been overly costly.



you obviously haven't been following to closely. there is no way we will get such a poor namings right deal as they did. we have more corporate than them, 2,062 bigger crowd, and a stadium built for multi purpose use.

the downside though is it has cost a lot more to build than they paid, but the TV pay is a lot higher. I expect it will effect us a lot more than it was before the cost went up due to Brexit and the delays, but we are going to have to be patient and hope for the best, even if it does take 10 years.

What is really frustrating here is that Brooks and Maddison were hardly ‘hiding’. They were top quality Champ players that Lei and AFCB went all in for. We could have easily offered the same.
Maybe they preferred first team games at those clubs and I guess their development would have been slowed with less minutes on the pitch but if we wanted them I’m sure we could have got them.
Now they’d cost us a nearer £100m for the pair.
I still think we could do worse than to poach every non top 6 best players.
Prem proven.
The likes of WanBis, Rice, Brooks, Maddison, Doherty, Neves/Moutinho (6years on haha), would all help us and pin the rest back. Utd did this to us for years
 

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What is really frustrating here is that Brooks and Maddison were hardly ‘hiding’. They were top quality Champ players that Lei and AFCB went all in for. We could have easily offered the same.
Maybe they preferred first team games at those clubs and I guess their development would have been slowed with less minutes on the pitch but if we wanted them I’m sure we could have got them.
Now they’d cost us a nearer £100m for the pair.
I still think we could do worse than to poach every non top 6 best players.
Prem proven.
The likes of WanBis, Rice, Brooks, Maddison, Doherty, Neves/Moutinho (6years on haha), would all help us and pin the rest back. Utd did this to us for years

United did that when the transfer fees were 10,15, the odd 35mill.

Nowadays we'd have to pay 50mill each on average for that lot.
 

hutchiniho

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We need players to fill the HG quota so we'll do a decent amount of deals in the Championship IMO. Upside is Poch has a knack for helping young British talent develop into stars. Out of curiosity, what other player in the Championship is a better option than Grealish?

Not sure than better right now but there’s a few with potential
Bowen, Wilson and Mount , James, Rodon, Barnes, Abraham, the lad at Leeds who’s name escapes me atm
 

hutchiniho

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United did that when the transfer fees were 10,15, the odd 35mill. £35 on Martial the teenager!!!

Nowadays we'd have to pay 50mill each on average for that lot.

That’s just the market tho.
Every year, Ferguson added one star signing to thenpostion of need.
Kept them on top of the pile for nearly two decades.
They still do it, but not as well in my opinion.
Pogba and lukaku were £80mil a pop weren’t they? Matic £40 mata £35.

It’s been said we need to be dropping £60-£80m a player to deliver first XI upgrades. We just can do that like Utd can. Hence the need to get the scouts out. And find the next four or five Dele Allis
 

King of the Lane

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If everyone we expect leaves then I would guess our incomings could look something like this:

Bowen
Ndombele
Aarons
Sessegnon
Anderson

City may get a 2 window transfer ban like Chelsea. If so I think we could be in with a decent chance to get Ndombele if we have CL footy next season. I dont expect him to go for 75mill...it will be max 60mill imo.

Or we end up with nobody again.
 

EQP

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Not sure than better right now but there’s a few with potential
Bowen, Wilson and Mount , James, Rodon, Barnes, Abraham, the lad at Leeds who’s name escapes me atm

I'd take Mount and Abraham off that list as they're owned by Chelsea. Bowen and Grealish are 2 different players but IMO would be good buys for us. Dan James looks good and @agrdavidsfan could speak more on his potential and any interest we might have. Reall don't know the rest of the list but feel free to drop more names/ player profiles.
 

Jaddas

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We need players to fill the HG quota so we'll do a decent amount of deals in the Championship IMO. Upside is Poch has a knack for helping young British talent develop into stars. Out of curiosity, what other player in the Championship is a better option than Grealish?

Totally different positions but Max Arrons from Norwich, Jack Clarke I think from Leeds, Jarrod Bowen from Hull and Swansea have a good young winger/inside forward. I don’t mind these types of players from the Championship.

Centre mid is a crucial position for us as we lack in this area, so for this i’d prefer we got someone with a better pedigree.

Edit: scrap Bowen off that list as per JJ’s post below. Didn’t think he was all that anyway!!!
 
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Mouse!

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David Brooks
Jack Grealish
Aaron Wan-Bissaka
Daniel James
Jarrod Bowen
Ryan Sessegnon

Cheeky £200m

Oh, and a world class DM.
 

eddiev14

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Its not in there interest to drop and devalue their asset... Our level is pretty tricky in that we need to get the right players within our budget we can't panic buy and spend £50M on a player the quality of say Sigurdsson that ain't going to get us to where we need to be. We need to be patient and ready to strike when the right players come on the market.

I think (Grealish £35M), (Brooks £45M,) (Aarons £20M) under £100M is good deal or £100M on a really top class player with one potential player thrown in.

IMO their interest is to maximise value for a sale.

I can’t really see any reason why they’d want to hang on to us now.

It’s not like 20 years ago when basically every club in the league was mismanaged apart from United and the Scum. How could they predict the onslaught of wealth into the game. Chelsea, City, PSG inflating wages and transfers, and creating competition to make it even harder for us to win. TV revenue going through the roof, making it difficult to even buy West Brom’s striker.

I don’t blame them, it’s a different game, but here we are - and we’ve been here a while.

Either they come up with a solution, or they sell. Our fans want us to start acting like a big club, as will our top players unless we show them otherwise.
 
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