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coys200

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Fact is we have 3 CB. One has been out for 3 months, why foyth has had more chances. If Trippier or Aurier we’re injured KWP woukd Be Playing more. But definitely big personal decision for him in summer. Can’t carry on in this situation.
 

Anuth

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Fact is we have 3 CB. One has been out for 3 months, why
foyth has had more chances. If Trippier or Aurier we’re injured KWP woukd Be Playing more. But definitely big personal decision for him in summer. Can’t carry on in this situation.

No, if Trippier or Aurier were injured, we would be playing with one right back similar to Davies plays when Rose injured.
 

allpaths

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Really wish Kyle curled his effort into the top corner, kind of a disapointing effort in all honesty. Lovely link up play at times and a real battler defensively.

Don't know what the future holds for him but he needs to be sorted out come the begining of next season.
 

Blake Griffin

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uyl draw is on friday -

seeded:
barcelona
basel
bayern
chelsea
liverpool
man city
porto
spurs

unseeded:
atletico
feyenoord
inter
man utd
monaco
psg
real madrid
salzburg


we can't draw real madrid as we faced them in the group.
 

allpaths

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No, if Trippier or Aurier were injured, we would be playing with one right back similar to Davies plays when Rose injured.
Easy now, I agree with your fight but I think youre stretching your point here.

Alderwiereld has been injured for months and Foyth's still only got basic cup duty. Even when Sanchez was suspended for 3 games he still didnt get to see any action in the league. Foyth's usage hasnt been that much better.
 

IGSpur

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Really wish Kyle curled his effort into the top corner, kind of a disapointing effort in all honesty. Lovely link up play at times and a real battler defensively.

Don't know what the future holds for him but he needs to be sorted out come the begining of next season.

I wonder what was being said at the start of this season about don't worry so and so will get minutes this year. I'd be surprised if KWP appears again.

5 starts max in all comps for new academy players this season. 7/8 total appearances spread across 3 players with 2 getting a combined 5 minutes. There's always next season
 

IGSpur

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uyl draw is on friday -

seeded:
barcelona
basel
bayern
chelsea
liverpool
man city
porto
spurs

unseeded:
atletico
feyenoord
inter
man utd
monaco
psg
real madrid
salzburg


we can't draw real madrid as we faced them in the group.

All good ties. Fun to watch
 

allpaths

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I wonder what was being said at the start of this season about don't worry so and so will get minutes this year. I'd be surprised if KWP appears again.

5 starts max in all comps for new academy players this season. 7/8 total appearances spread across 3 players with 2 getting a combined 5 minutes. There's always next season
wouldnt we all like to know. It's baffling, there's seems to be zero planning when it comes to integration from my pov and it's deeply concerning.
 

coys200

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uyl draw is on friday -

seeded:
barcelona
basel
bayern
chelsea
liverpool
man city
porto
spurs

unseeded:
atletico
feyenoord
inter
man utd
monaco
psg
real madrid
salzburg


we can't draw real madrid as we faced them in the group.

Can Edwards play in this? Vaguely remember in past loan players coming back for big youth games.
 

coys200

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I wonder what was being said at the start of this season about don't worry so and so will get minutes this year. I'd be surprised if KWP appears again.

5 starts max in all comps for new academy players this season. 7/8 total appearances spread across 3 players with 2 getting a combined 5 minutes. There's always next season

I think walker move came a season too early for KWP. I think if it was this season they would have gone with KWP as back up and not bought Aurier. I’d say KWP future really hinges on Aurier clearly displacing Trippier As No 1 which he’d nearly done till the injury. If Trippier sees he is No 2 he will be off imo.
 

IGSpur

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I think walker move came a season too early for KWP. I think if it was this season they would have gone with KWP as back up and not bought Aurier. I’d say KWP future really hinges on Aurier clearly displacing Trippier As No 1 which he’d nearly done till the injury. If Trippier sees he is No 2 he will be off imo.

Why? If Walker left this season he would still have the same amount if experience, at the start of next season. Maybe even less so as he wouldn't have started first PL game if the season. So why would Poch feel any more comfortable going into next season with KWP as his 2nd choice RB in your situation than this season?
 

ljinko888

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What makes the KWP situation more challenging is neither Trippier or Aurier have cemented the first pick slot. Just when you think one has a poor performance follows.

I would say Trippier's best games against Madrid and Utd were better than the best of Aurier so far, but Aurier hasn't put in any outright stinkers. He hasn't been as influential as expected though.

So it's hard to say Trippier is expendable at this moment when Aurier is not banging the door down to start. And naturally the biggest victim of this is the kid who is bottom of the pyramid to two senior players.
 

razzmaster

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Neither Aurier or Trippier need to be offloaded yet as both are good players who offer different options. Keep both for next season, let them battle to be first choice and loan KWP out to gain much needed experience. If he does well then integrate him into the squad the following season and then sell either Trippier or Aurier. Personally I think KWP could be better than both but is in desperate need of senior football. I would do exactly the same with Onomah, CCV and Edwards, but we need to ensure they are loaned to the right club otherwise it is pointless. I would also loan out players like Harrison, Amos, Georgiou and Walkes to try and raise their value as I don't think any are quite good enough to make it at Spurs. Players such as Pritchard, C.Maghoma, Loft, Tracey and Ogilvie should all be released as they clearly won't make it at this level and would only block the pathway for more talented younger players. As much as a lot of us are desperate to see academy players given a chance, I think it is more important that they can see a route into the first team and the loan system for me is the best way. There is no immediate rush either then as they would be getting regular first team football. The same approach could then be used to sign players like James Maddison before their value increases as we would still be able to provide them with senior football until they are ready.
 

Univarn

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Neither Aurier or Trippier need to be offloaded yet as both are good players who offer different options. Keep both for next season, let them battle to be first choice and loan KWP out to gain much needed experience. If he does well then integrate him into the squad the following season and then sell either Trippier or Aurier. Personally I think KWP could be better than both but is in desperate need of senior football. I would do exactly the same with Onomah, CCV and Edwards, but we need to ensure they are loaned to the right club otherwise it is pointless. I would also loan out players like Harrison, Amos, Georgiou and Walkes to try and raise their value as I don't think any are quite good enough to make it at Spurs. Players such as Pritchard, C.Maghoma, Loft, Tracey and Ogilvie should all be released as they clearly won't make it at this level and would only block the pathway for more talented younger players. As much as a lot of us are desperate to see academy players given a chance, I think it is more important that they can see a route into the first team and the loan system for me is the best way. There is no immediate rush either then as they would be getting regular first team football. The same approach could then be used to sign players like James Maddison before their value increases as we would still be able to provide them with senior football until they are ready.
This is broadly where I fall on the issue. I think critiques of "lost years" carry more weight for me than arguments over providing minimal bench minutes in matches Poch didn't know we would romp to victory beforehand.
 

ardiles

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None of our four main full backs have been consistently spectacular this season and I really can't see how KWP wasn't given more game time.
 

Blake Griffin

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just realised that there's no seeded or unseeded sides, my mistake. so we can draw any of the other 15 sides apart from madrid.


The 16 balls containing the names of the teams are placed in a bowl. The first team drawn will play the single-leg knockout match at home against the second team drawn. The same procedure will be repeated for the other round of 16 ties.

• No teams are seeded and there is no country protection. The winners and runners-up of the same group in the Champions League path cannot be drawn against each other.
 

Blake Griffin

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