The Spurs Youth Thread - 2017/2018

[Hercules]

Yes

 

[Anuth]

our U19 won first match 2-0

 

[Anuth]

"

 

[therhinospeaks]

He scores goals

 

[Kilkenny Cat]

I’d love to know the story behind getting parrott. We don’t have much of an obvious Irish connection as far as I know. And I’m sure he had offers from everyone most likely. Wonder what swung it for us.

Coincidentally I'd been wondering about this myself. Both Liverpool and Arsenal gave up scouting in Ireland a long time ago. I can only assume that whoever in Dublin recommended Stephen Kelly and Dave McDonald all those years ago is still keeping his hand in.

 

[Anuth]

just found this article about Troy

https://www.independent.ie/sport/so...imitating-kane-success-at-spurs-36891922.html

John Fallon
May 10 2018 2:30 AM

For someone who plays with his socks down and chin up, Troy Parrott carries a refreshing outlook in an era when the fabric of football in this country is being questioned.

Damien Duff has justifiably cited the onset of the digital age as counterproductive to producing players, a trend his previous manager Brian Kerr highlighted in his Irish Independent column.

The natural habitat for youngsters to learn the basics of the game by practising on a daily basis in their locality has long gone.
Fortunately for the Irish game, Parrott didn't conform to social changes during his upbringing.

Just as Wes Hoolahan from nearby Portland Row did, the younger graduate from the same Belvedere club filled his free time away from the PlayStation on open ground mastering the football.

Martin O'Neill and Roy Keane could appreciate on Tuesday the nonchalance with which the now 16-year-old has as his hallmark.
Few players on the pitch would have, with only five minutes gone, dared to try their luck with an audacious 25-yard shot which swept into the Denmark net for the only goal of Ireland's second game at the U-17 European Championship finals.

Kerr has wondered aloud whether we'll see the likes of Wes again in an Ireland team but, while he possesses different attributes, the armoury of Parrott is encouraging.

Hoolahan was always one of the smallest on his team yet Parrott's imposing figure doesn't make him look out of place a year ahead of his age-group for the U-17s.

That's one of the reasons why, unlike Hoolahan, a major Premier League side in Tottenham Hotspur made it a priority to broker a three-year pre-agreement for the Dubliner when he was just 14.

"Wes is from my area and I've had a chat with his father a few times," explained the teen from Buckingham Street in Dublin's north inner city.

"Although I'd say our styles aren't similar, Wes is a brilliant player. Whether I was out on the road or in the local park with my mates, I enjoyed having the ball at my feet. My mother couldn't get me in off the street every day.

"Becoming a professional footballer is all I've ever hoped for. I don't want to do anything else."
Parrott's background should make his imminent transition into a full-time environment at Tottenham more manageable.

His commitments with the international squad will extend into next week at the earliest should Ireland avoid defeat in their final Group C game against Bosnia-Herzegovina tomorrow.

Awaiting them in the quarter-finals on Monday would be a Netherlands team that have beaten Germany (3-0) and Spain (2-0) in their first two games.

Getting the chance to test himself against the Dutch won't faze a player capable of delivering on the big stage.
"I'm well used to playing against older players by now," said Parrott, eligible again for next year's tournament which Ireland qualify automatically for as hosts.

"Stepping up to U-17 level this season is an experience I've really enjoyed and want to help the team qualify from this group. We'll be going for the win against Bosnia, no matter what's needed to get us through."

The broader picture for Parrott is the aim of becoming the first Irish player to make an impact at Spurs since Robbie Keane.
The former Ireland captain's eventual replacement up front, Harry Kane, is the poster boy for the club's academy and Parrott believes he's in the best place to achieve his objective.

"I was always a Liverpool fan but Tottenham won my heart," said the recently-crowned FAI U-15 Player of the Year.
"Harry Kane has done unbelievably well for them and he's someone I look up to and can learn from him as a striker.
"With the staff and top players around me at Spurs, I know I'll have the best chance of progressing at. They're a club that have always brought young players into the first team."

Irish Independent

 

[coys200]

2nd game 1-1 sterling goal Vs locomotiv

 

[C0YS]

I doubt they envisioned a token bench appearance. What I interpreted is that they believe he is so good he would be considered a genuine option off the bench. Lesniak was on the bench and even came on and then left 2 months later, which suggests he wasn't really considered as a serious contender so who knows why he was played. I'm sure many managers just throw kids on the bench to look like they have an intersest

I thought he was played to put him on the shop window. He played well as well I recall.

 

[IGSpur]

I thought he was played to put him on the shop window. He played well as well I recall.

Bit random if so. We don't do that to any other academy player. Lesniak had only one loan prior to that, and it was fairly inconspicuous somewhere in Easter Europe, so I don't know why we would have chosen him as a player to put in the shop window as if it would help us get a significant fee. He ended up being released anyway.

Why not do it to all of our academy players, why just him. I'd have thought a better option is a player who had a decent loan that already had some suitors, that we may expect a fee off, in the hope that if he had a good game in the PL even more people might bid for him.

And yes Lesniak did look comfortable which is no surprise, seems to be getting regular games in the Danish league which is good

 

[coys200]

Blimey Amachei looks a player.

 

[DiscoD1882]

Do we have players at the u17 tournie. Just watching it now. Not very well versed with some of he younger lot.

 

[Anuth]

Bit random if so. We don't do that to any other academy player. Lesniak had only one loan prior to that, and it was fairly inconspicuous somewhere in Easter Europe, so I don't know why we would have chosen him as a player to put in the shop window as if it would help us get a significant fee. He ended up being released anyway.

Why not do it to all of our academy players, why just him. I'd have thought a better option is a player who had a decent loan that already had some suitors, that we may expect a fee off, in the hope that if he had a good game in the PL even more people might bid for him.

And yes Lesniak did look comfortable which is no surprise, seems to be getting regular games in the Danish league which is good

IIRC the reason was we had not enough players. Onomah, KWP and CCV were with the national team. We had no RB and Dier was needed there. Dembele was not fit. so we needed 1 DM on the bench. Other youth players were just back from loan. So we had not much choice then

 

[mill]

Iirc shashoua was an unused sub in the same game

 

[IGSpur]

Blimey Amachei looks a player.

Very strange age group. All their attacking players are good, but I think they are all very similar, and are lacking a real star, especially without Jones there, and Greenwood. But I still feel they just don't compare to the 00s general attack. Or their best attack, which had depth and versatility.

Their striker options are probably marginally better though, but as I say they are missing Greenwod.

This group are looking good to go far

 

[IGSpur]

Do we have players at the u17 tournie. Just watching it now. Not very well versed with some of he younger lot.

No. Only player we have their is Parrott for Ireland

 

[Blake Griffin]

Very strange age group. All their attacking players are good, but I think they are all very similar, and are lacking a real star, especially without Jones there, and Greenwood.

yeah they're all pacey, direct players. it's probably bias on my part but i think they could've done with a clever little player like markanday to knit it all together.

 

[IGSpur]

yeah they're all pacey, direct players. it's probably bias on my part but i think they could've done with a clever little player like markanday to knit it all together.

Definitely agree. They're good but too much of the same. Having one or 2 in the squad is fine but literally all of their wingers, bar Coyle I think play in that same way. Markanday would provide something different like you say knit them together.

Looking at other age groups, similarly it's why I liked the 99s as well.

Willock (when he was a winger), Nelson, Shashoua, Bennett, Mount, Leko all had different styles, and when they went to the Euros, though they didn't get far had good options.

Even the 98s, though they had a lot less talent, Willock, Edwards, and AN Other provided different styles and a better balance.

If Jones was there though we probably wouldn't be saying this. Is it probably the only player that could have got into the 00s squad and he is a different style

 

[IGSpur]

England u18s have a tournaments in China at the end of the month.

Eyoma is the only call up. How Denny gets in ahead of Skipp I don't know. Hinds I think deserves a chance but Lamptey has had a great season at Chelsea who have won 4 trophies so fair enough, the other is Griffiths. Statistically you'd think he'd get a chance. Nmecha is very good but it's either him or his brother that floats between England and Germany but he is more talented than Griffiths. Loader is also good, but still think Griffiths has earned a call up. Think you can drop one of the midfielders to fit him in, especially taking into account Loader sometimes plays as a no.10 and even from the wing.

Interesting Poveda seems to be back in the fold after going to Colombia. Hope they do another tournament with this age group trying outout a secondary squad. Would be great to look at all of the options available for next years Euros

Goalkeepers: Curtis Anderson (Manchester City), Josef Bursik (Stoke City), William Crellin (Fleetwood Town)

Defenders: Timothy Eyoma (Tottenham Hotspur), Nathan Ferguson (West Bromwich Albion), Tariq Lamptey (Chelsea), Jonathan Panzo (Chelsea), Steven Sessegnon (Fulham), Jake Vokins (Southampton), Adam Wilson (Newcastle United)

Midfielders: Alex Denny (Everton), Conor Gallagher (Chelsea), Nya Kirby (Crystal Palace), George McEachran (Chelsea), Stephen Walker (Middlesbrough), Callum Wright (Leicester City)

Forwards: Danny Loader (Reading), Felix Nmecha (Manchester City), Ian Poveda-Ocampo (Manchester City)

 

[Blake Griffin]

England u18s have a tournaments in China at the end of the month.

Eyoma is the only call up. How Denny gets in ahead of Skipp I don't know. Hinds I think deserves a chance but Lamptey has had a great season at Chelsea who have won 4 trophies so fair enough, the other is Griffiths. Statistically you'd think he'd get a chance. Nmecha is very good but it's either him or his brother that floats between England and Germany but he is more talented than Griffiths. Loader is also good, but still think Griffiths has earned a call up. Think you can drop one of the midfielders to fit him in, especially taking into account Loader sometimes plays as a no.10 and even from the wing.

Interesting Poveda seems to be back in the fold after going to Colombia. Hope they do another tournament with this age group trying outout a secondary squad. Would be great to look at all of the options available for next years Euros

Goalkeepers: Curtis Anderson (Manchester City), Josef Bursik (Stoke City), William Crellin (Fleetwood Town)

Defenders: Timothy Eyoma (Tottenham Hotspur), Nathan Ferguson (West Bromwich Albion), Tariq Lamptey (Chelsea), Jonathan Panzo (Chelsea), Steven Sessegnon (Fulham), Jake Vokins (Southampton), Adam Wilson (Newcastle United)

Midfielders: Alex Denny (Everton), Conor Gallagher (Chelsea), Nya Kirby (Crystal Palace), George McEachran (Chelsea), Stephen Walker (Middlesbrough), Callum Wright (Leicester City)

Forwards: Danny Loader (Reading), Felix Nmecha (Manchester City), Ian Poveda-Ocampo (Manchester City)

the u19s have a training camp coming up soon don't they? maybe skipp(and tob) will be part of that? if not then it seems strange neither are in. if i were picking this side then i'd be interested to see a midfield of skipp, mceachran and smith-rowe, think that would have a really nice balance to it.

 

[IGSpur]

the u19s have a training camp coming up soon don't they? maybe skipp(and tob) will be part of that? if not then it seems strange neither are in. if i were picking this side then i'd be interested to see a midfield of skipp, mceachran and smith-rowe, think that would have a really nice balance to it.

Yes and no with Skipp. He has a had generally speaking a great season and impressed many who have watched him, so from missing out in the Euros, to playing well getting a callup to the u18s to then missing out on Denny seems really unlikely. But I'd also argue even more unlikely is for a player to go from missing out on the u17s to then making the training camp for the u19s.

Tbf from memmory the only DM I can think of is McGuane and Adeniran, the latter seems to have fallen out foavour. McGuane is no assured starter either, however if they need a DM, I'd expect Gallagher to get a chance ahead of Skipp as he has also had a great season and won the u17 World Cup.

I do like the balance of that, and it is also strange ESR hasn't been called up. I have not seen much of Kirby since he has left, but if he is back to his old ways a midfield 3 of McEachran, Kirby and Skipp I would really like. ESR and Poveda on the wings (or Taylor RIchards once he's back). Speaking of Richards you could argue that Rodel has earned a call up and could deserve a little try

Re: TOB I assume he is injured as I believe he is still at Hotspur Way, but don't know what his future holds for England, I'd be more confident of Edwards keeping his place than TOB, at this point as he just doesn't play any games and when he has he hasn't looked great. Saying that though, he has a lot of credit within England I reckon based on how could he was and his potential still could be, PLUS he was a mainstay as England won teh World Cup and fans would argue if we had him in the final for the Euros we would have won that. So based off that he could also be promoted to the u19s, with Dozzell, Slattery injured or off the scene. I could easily see England u19s going TOB holding, with Willock and Mount in front of him, and Willock being the box to box, which might work well