With newly promoted teams I’d say possibly yes apart from Edwards who I have no clue if he could be arsed. Not sure about established but they’d definitely get significant minutes. I have a feeling if it was this season we may not have bought Aurier and just promoted KWP to back up.
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With newly promoted teams I’d say possibly yes apart from Edwards who I have no clue if he could be arsed. Not sure about established but they’d definitely get significant minutes. I have a feeling if it was this season we may not have bought Aurier and just promoted KWP to back up.
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No Edwards in USA squad, he's finished here isn't he?
No Onomah either so assuming he's part of JG deal and going back to Villa on loan?
No Onomah either so assuming he's part of JG deal and going back to Villa on loan?
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Yeah, if he can't get into the tour squad with so many other youngsters there, and so many first teamers out, it doesn't look like he's in our own plans.
I hope Onomah doesn't go on loan again. I want to see him given a chance for us. Surely tour is a good place for that?
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depends on which club they were at. if they were at one of the other big clubs then in all likelihood, no, though i can't imagine they'd be in any worse position than they are currently. even with that you have a couple of exceptions like alexander-arnold who has managed to establish himself thanks to klopp having the balls to play him despite having no other rb available, whilst poch couldn't even do it with kwp even though we still had trippier to fall back on. wenger has done well with maitland-niles, a player who has always been behind onomah at youth level. even with someone like rashford, would he have got the same chance under poch? yes it took utd having all of their strikers being out for him to play but let's say we were in the same situation, would poch stick sterling in or would he improvise with the line up and play alli there instead? or lamela? or lucas? i just wonder how far down the injury tunnel we'd have to go before he'd turn to an untested youth player.
turning the question on its head, would the great ryan sessegnon for example be where he is now if he'd come through here? would he have 80 games under his belt or would he have closer to 8? or even players abroad that sc would be doing collective cartwheels over were we to sign them like de ligt or pulisic, would they have been playing much in our first team at 17? do ajax have the best academy in europe or is it just the best utilised? going back to the four players you mentioned, we've handled ccv's development well on the whole so don't have much issue there and i wouldn't quite put him on the same level as the other three but i do think that if they'd come through at a club a little further down the footballing tree then they would be ahead of where they are now, but of course there's no way to quantify that.
Are there any non doomsday reasons
why these two are not on the tour?
I thought Edwards was being given a final chance
and with Winks still undergoing treatment
Dembele leaving
and no new signings
what has Josh done wrong?
Serge Aurier
Cameron Carter-Vickers
Ben Davies
Christian Eriksen
Juan Foyth
Paulo Gazzaniga
Erik Lamela
Fernando Llorente
Lucas Moura
Georges-Kevin N’Koudou
Davinson Sanchez
Moussa Sissoko
Heung-Min Son
Michel Vorm
Kyle Walker-Peters
Victor Wanyama
Luke Amos
Brandon Austin
TJ Eyoma
Anthony Georgiou
George Marsh
Tashan Oakley-Boothe
Oliver Skipp
Kazaiah Sterling
Alfie Whiteman
What is going on here , Edwards onomah Griffiths , shashoua , Roles, Harrison all left at home . All Talents in their own right . Then people want to know why the youngsters are leaving spurs , something is going on in that academy
Cameron Carter-Vickers
Ben Davies
Christian Eriksen
Juan Foyth
Paulo Gazzaniga
Erik Lamela
Fernando Llorente
Lucas Moura
Georges-Kevin N’Koudou
Davinson Sanchez
Moussa Sissoko
Heung-Min Son
Michel Vorm
Kyle Walker-Peters
Victor Wanyama
Luke Amos
Brandon Austin
TJ Eyoma
Anthony Georgiou
George Marsh
Tashan Oakley-Boothe
Oliver Skipp
Kazaiah Sterling
Alfie Whiteman
What is going on here , Edwards onomah Griffiths , shashoua , Roles, Harrison all left at home . All Talents in their own right . Then people want to know why the youngsters are leaving spurs , something is going on in that academy
Hengy1
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You do see we are taking 11 players from the academy don’t you?
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Yeah, I'm sure Cameron Carter-Vickers, Kyle Walker-Peters, Luke Amos, Brandon Austin, TJ Eyoma, Anthony Georgiou, George Marsh, Tashan Oakley-Boothe, Oliver Skipp, Kazaiah Sterling and Alfie Whiteman will be gutted...
Obviously as surprised by the Onomah omission as anyone, although didn't someone say he'd been carrying an injury for the last few months of the season?
Of course that’s my point look at the talent that’s has been left behind and look who you are taking , George marsh , below average Luke Amos , average , Oakley booth who really has not impressed since he was 16 , do you want me to continue ?
Hengy1
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Who are you to say who deserves to go or not?
I just listed a number of players Edwards Griffiths , shashoua , Roles, Harrison , Onomah . But instead we pick boys like marsh Amos .
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who are we to say who should or shouldn't be sold? who are we to say who should play and who should not? or who we should or should not buy? you can use that line for anything but like the rest of those examples he's watched them play and formed his opinion off the back of it, nothing wrong with that.
Hengy1
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Again what have those done other the others to deserve to go?
Also let’s remember we don’t actually know if deals have been lined up for any player left behind.
Btw you say some are average then say Harrison should go, strange that
Hengy1
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We are taking 11 academy players then we have someone moaning that players will leave because so and so aren’t going.
For instance he names Edwards who by all accounts had a shocking year and hasn’t shown he deserves to go while Amos went out on loan got his head down and got rave reviews.
It’s just a very strange stance by him
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yes, because it's not just about "taking academy players", it's about taking and developing the best academy players, the ones that actually have the quality to play for the first team in the future. edwards didn't have a shocking year, he had a shocking few months at norwich for one reason or another but when he played alongside the rest of those names listed in the first half of the season in the uyl or u23s he quite clearly outperformed them all, bar possibly skipp but then you can't compare the two as they're massively different players. i'm happy for amos so no problem with him going but let's not pretend that any of the others have ever shown anything close to onomah's or edwards' level.
i'm really starting to wonder whether @therhinospeaks was on to something when he said we all dream of a team of very nice kids.
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my opinion based on what I have seen and heard from people in the know . The players I have listed all have something different about them , with exception of Harrison , (you are probably right he shouldn’t be in the list . ) we seem to want to breed the same boring players , that just do the joe average things . When it comes to a lad that has something different to offer and some sort of spark that can excite the fans we seem to shrug them off
Hengy1
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Again we don’t know the full decision for him Onomah because he would’ve gone if there wasn’t something stopping him ie a loan or injury.
As for the rest it’s clearly not just down to talent but attitude and application too.
Edwards has one but seems like he’s missing the others.
Griffiths could’ve gone but we have a lot of attacking talent gone anyway + Sterling so no problem with him missing out.
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Onomah has been absolutely fucked over by the club imo. Poor bloke
Tashan Oakley-Boothe was an important member of the England squad that won the U17 World Cup when he was 17, so you're wrong there.
Nobody has given clear reasons for what went on last seaon with TOB. He played in pre-season for the first team, often travelled with the first team, and played almost zero U23 and Academy football.
This was frustrating and mysterious to many of us on here, although there were suggestions he had an injury.
But TOB is still only 18. He is a very talented kid in a key developmental period, and I'm delighted he's travelling to the US.
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