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Anuth

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Sam starts

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Spurzinho

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I think what you can see is that he's a lovely, lovely footballer but there was a massive amount of hype on the kid that has just heaped tons of unnecessary pressure on him and generated ridiculous amounts of expectations and impatience with his progress.

He is got a lovely touch and lovely balance and his low centre of gravity helps him slip past players without having express pace.

The reality check is that he isn't a world beater. He isn't going to tear up the Eredivie like the Brazilian Ronaldo did or Messi would have done. He's a lovely footballer not a world beater.

Please adjust your expectations.
 

IGSpur

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I think what you can see is that he's a lovely, lovely footballer but there was a massive amount of hype on the kid that has just heaped tons of unnecessary pressure on him and generated ridiculous amounts of expectations and impatience with his progress.

He is got a lovely touch and lovely balance and his low centre of gravity helps him slip past players without having express pace.

The reality check is that he isn't a world beater. He isn't going to tear up the Eredivie like the Brazilian Ronaldo did or Messi would have done. He's a lovely footballer not a world beater.

Please adjust your expectations.

He could potentially be a world beater, but development has been handled poorly. Sancho doing well, Nelson scored on debut for Hoffenheim yesterday too.

Edwards is basically on their level or was until the last couple of years. No guarantee any of them will be World Class but he's been one of England's best and most exciting prospects for last few years.

He has more than enough ability to have featured in our first team more than 19mins. All the reasons were given as to why he hasn't to were due to his attitude and workrate, however doesn't seem to be problem in Eredivisie
 

IGSpur

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Just watched this video, cheers BG. I almost forgot how much I loved watching him play
Glides across the ground, so slippery qucik little passes and one twos, really is a quality player. And most tackles as you say., I'll be honest I'm not as surprised as most people. I literally posted over the last 2 years how much his workrate improved and he was regularly getting back and making tackles but it sad never going to beat the 'lazy and entitled' rhetoric. He's been making these changes in his game and it has been noticeable but it's just ignored
 

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Edwards would link so well with players like Lamela, Winks and Moura who are good at quick intricate interplay. This would help the likes of Kane, Alli and Son so much as our front line is being starved of service due to the slow, painful build up play.
 

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He could potentially be a world beater, but development has been handled poorly. Sancho doing well, Nelson scored on debut for Hoffenheim yesterday too.

Edwards is basically on their level or was until the last couple of years. No guarantee any of them will be World Class but he's been one of England's best and most exciting prospects for last few years.

He has more than enough ability to have featured in our first team more than 19mins. All the reasons were given as to why he hasn't to were due to his attitude and workrate, however doesn't seem to be problem in Eredivisie

He's a different type of player. He doesn't have the explosive pace of a Brazilian Ronaldo (as the poster before you mentioned) and he doesn't have the raw power either. But he does have very good technical ability and that will show in time.

Players like Sancho are far more direct however similarly to a player like Eriksen it will take time for a more technical player like him to really show his qualities at top level.
 

IGSpur

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He's a different type of player. He doesn't have the explosive pace of a Brazilian Ronaldo (as the poster before you mentioned) and he doesn't have the raw power either. But he does have very good technical ability and that will show in time.

Players like Sancho are far more direct however similarly to a player like Eriksen it will take time for a more technical player like him to really show his qualities at top level.

Was just comparing him and Sancho on a hype/ability level. Sancho is a lot more direct in style helped by his physique, when compared to Edwards, whereas Edwards is more intricate and slippery. I just imagine regardless of how Edwards does this season, he could go on to do badly. But even if he did do well, managers would always see it as a risk integrating him into the PL, which goes back to why England have no real intricate attacking players or no.10s.
 

IGSpur

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Jeremy Sarmiento, Charlton's big talent has gone to Benfica so is there with Willock. He was chased by City, so good choice.

Also @Blake Griffin how did Crowley get on yesterday?
 

Blake Griffin

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Jeremy Sarmiento, Charlton's big talent has gone to Benfica so is there with Willock. He was chased by City, so good choice.

Also @Blake Griffin how did Crowley get on yesterday?

he was tidy from what i noticed but tbh i was so focused on watching edwards that i wasn't really paying any attention to what everyone else was doing.
 
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Blake Griffin

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I think what you can see is that he's a lovely, lovely footballer but there was a massive amount of hype on the kid that has just heaped tons of unnecessary pressure on him and generated ridiculous amounts of expectations and impatience with his progress.

He is got a lovely touch and lovely balance and his low centre of gravity helps him slip past players without having express pace.

The reality check is that he isn't a world beater. He isn't going to tear up the Eredivie like the Brazilian Ronaldo did or Messi would have done. He's a lovely footballer not a world beater.

Please adjust your expectations.

what is his ceiling in your opinion if you were to compare him to a current day player? also to be fair it was our manager who ramped up most of the hype and expectations when he publicly compared him to messi, what a few posters on forums/social media say is insignificant by comparison.
 
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JRSG

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I think what you can see is that he's a lovely, lovely footballer but there was a massive amount of hype on the kid that has just heaped tons of unnecessary pressure on him and generated ridiculous amounts of expectations and impatience with his progress.

He is got a lovely touch and lovely balance and his low centre of gravity helps him slip past players without having express pace.

The reality check is that he isn't a world beater. He isn't going to tear up the Eredivie like the Brazilian Ronaldo did or Messi would have done. He's a lovely footballer not a world beater.

Please adjust your expectations.

Ronaldo + Messi are two of the best players of all time. Using them as the measuring stick makes no sense.

Sancho was always a better prospect than Edwards. I'd say Nelson is more on his level.

The problem with Edwards is that rumours off the pitch, have warped opinions on how he plays on the pitch. He's never been lazy or ill-disciplined when he's played. But for some reason people (mainly those who haven't seen him play) have filled in the blanks for themselves or people have gone to watch him with that idea in their mind and will see whatever they want to see.
 

IGSpur

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Sancho was always a better prospect than Edwards. I'd say Nelson is more on his level.

Do you put Sancho in his own class then? I'd definitely have Edwards, Foden, Nelson in the same level, as they were coming through the academies though there a slight differences, and I'd usually include Sancho in there.

The problem with Edwards is that rumours off the pitch, have warped opinions on how he plays on the pitch. He's never been lazy or ill-disciplined when he's played. But for some reason people (mainly those who haven't seen him play) have filled in the blanks for themselves or people have gone to watch him with that idea in their mind and will see whatever they want to see.

100% agree. Plus the the public targeting or indirects from Poch as excuses not to give him chances. He isn't running around like Skipp but you can see from watching him that he can work hard and get back. He's no worse than most attackers but there is this unfair perception. Why would England coaches keep choosing him if he was so lazy and disruptive? There is plenty of talent in the academies so England don't have to carry bad apples or passengers.
 

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what is his ceiling in your opinion if you were to compare him to a current day player? also to be fair it was our manager who ramped up most of the hype and expectations when he publicly compared him to messi, what a few posters on forums/social media say is insignificant by comparison.

Mata?

Very good but not cream of the crop.
 

JRSG

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Do you put Sancho in his own class then? I'd definitely have Edwards, Foden, Nelson in the same level, as they were coming through the academies though there a slight differences, and I'd usually include Sancho in there.



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Yeah, I think Sancho was unique. He was dominating U23 games at 16. It's hard to bracket them up retrospectively without being influenced by what's happened since, so it's hard to exactly assess Edwards. Sancho was just such a sure thing though. As much as Hazard or Rooney.
 
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