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IGSpur

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Judging by Poch's treatment of Foyth, a bad game/a few mistakes won't have a negative impact on how he is viewed by him and the coaching team.

Mate, I understand your reservations but let's not put negative spins on the players we want to play getting starts, let's just be happy about it and look forward to seeing him play.

I'm judging it by Poch's treatment of KWP, the non-signing.

You honestly believe i'm not chuffed for him and not looking forward to seeing him play/

Would it be better if I say 'Hope he has a good game, then maybe Poch will start using him more in the first team' cos you can go back the last couple of years and those posts are there somewhere
 

IGSpur

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Well it does look like the integration of Parrott has begun and Leicester wasn’t just a one off jolly. Didn’t expect it till next season tbh. Certainly the youngest since poch has been here.

I'm very confident that Marsh has travelled with the first team on quite a few occasions
 

Frozen_Waffles

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I know we have a tendancy to over do it with youngsters but I am so happy KWP has got a new contract and that also I get the feeling he will slowly make the move to more of a regular.

I think this kid will be something real special.
 

coys200

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I'm very confident that Marsh has travelled with the first team on quite a few occasions

Not sure what your point is ? Because Marsh has traveled and most believe he’s not up to it you can apply same thinking to Parrott ?
 

IGSpur

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Not sure what your point is ? Because Marsh has traveled and most believe he’s not up to it you can apply same thinking to Parrott ?

The fact that just because someone has travelled it is not a signal of intent to integrste them into the first team anytime soon. I'm basing this off history and trends, there have been better players than Parrott that have gone that haven't been integrated and arguably better players than him now that aren't going. It also depends on what you consider as integration, and how that looks?

Sterling, TOB and Amos are all players who have been on a first team bench and got 2mins never to be seen again. Would you consider that integration? or would you be expecting something more?

It may be that he was a signing so might have some clauses or expectations. Might just be going for experience. Kirby went on preseason while an u16. Sometimes things are done for show. I could be totally wrong though and Poch may throw a curveball and he may be a first teamer next year or playing regular first team football in two years but I highly doubt it.
 

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I'm very confident that Marsh has travelled with the first team on quite a few occasions

Sounds like quite an exciting prospect? saw someone else saying he could challenge Dier for his place next season, is he a similar player or does he offer something different?

Always great to see youth getting chances.
 

spurs9

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I'm judging it by Poch's treatment of KWP, the non-signing.

You honestly believe i'm not chuffed for him and not looking forward to seeing him play/

Would it be better if I say 'Hope he has a good game, then maybe Poch will start using him more in the first team' cos you can go back the last couple of years and those posts are there somewhere
How about "Fantastic, first he signs a new contract and now he is going to be starting away at Barcelona in a must win Champions League game, not just a league cup tie or meaningless last game of the season"?

Just saying let's leave for the negativity for if/when he has a good game but is not secured for another while or if/when he gets roasted by the world's best and everyone says "see, not ready yet".

This thread is becoming a hive of negativity already, so let's be positive during moments like this as I'm sure normal service can resume the next time Onomah or Edwards don't get game time.
 

spurs9

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Sounds like quite an exciting prospect? saw someone else saying he could challenge Dier for his place next season, is he a similar player or does he offer something different?

Always great to see youth getting chances.
He's taking the piss, Marsh is average and won't make it with us most likely. We have a more deserving player in Roles that keeps getting overlooked IMO.
 

coys200

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The fact that just because someone has travelled it is not a signal of intent to integrste them into the first team anytime soon. I'm basing this off history and trends, there have been better players than Parrott that have gone that haven't been integrated and arguably better players than him now that aren't going. It also depends on what you consider as integration, and how that looks?

Sterling, TOB and Amos are all players who have been on a first team bench and got 2mins never to be seen again. Would you consider that integration? or would you be expecting something more?

It may be that he was a signing so might have some clauses or expectations. Might just be going for experience. Kirby went on preseason while an u16. Sometimes things are done for show. I could be totally wrong though and Poch may throw a curveball and he may be a first teamer next year or playing regular first team football in two years but I highly doubt it.

Refer you back to something Mason said the other day. Pochettino likes to bring players in for 2 or 3 months and see how they react and the senior players verdict on them. Clearly TOB didn’t cut it and can probably say same of georgiou Edwards and sterling. As opposed to Skipp who seems to have. They could easily have taken Sterling or georgiou but have decided to take Parrott. It may just be that he was there anyway for the UYL game. So will actually be interesting if he plays in that or not. But imagine being 16 training in the nou camp next to Harry Kane stuff of dreams really. Marsh is an odd one as he does seem to be liked. I think he clearly has a good attitude and that’s massively important to pochettino.
 

ljinko888

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Refer you back to something Mason said the other day. Pochettino likes to bring players in for 2 or 3 months and see how they react and the senior players verdict on them. Clearly TOB didn’t cut it and can probably say same of georgiou Edwards and sterling. As opposed to Skipp who seems to have. They could easily have taken Sterling or georgiou but have decided to take Parrott. It may just be that he was there anyway for the UYL game. So will actually be interesting if he plays in that or not. But imagine being 16 training in the nou camp next to Harry Kane stuff of dreams really. Marsh is an odd one as he does seem to be liked. I think he clearly has a good attitude and that’s massively important to pochettino.

TOB is still only 18.

Plus I doubt it's uncommon for most PL clubs to bring some youngsters to first team training. Just for the fact they can make up numbers. I remember reading how Tony Pulis runs drills where his first team (his starting line up for the weekend) practice their set piece and positioning and everyone else were there to act as dummies more or less. He would have invited several youth players to train but never played them.
 

razzmaster

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I think Parrott's size and physicality also help him when it comes to Poch. He also seems to have a strong mentality which is another thing in his favour.
 

razzmaster

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The thing with Roles is that he is a natural finisher. Whatever level he plays I can see him continuing to score goals.
 

coys200

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TOB is still only 18.

Plus I doubt it's uncommon for most PL clubs to bring some youngsters to first team training. Just for the fact they can make up numbers. I remember reading how Tony Pulis runs drills where his first team (his starting line up for the weekend) practice their set piece and positioning and everyone else were there to act as dummies more or less. He would have invited several youth players to train but never played them.

I know he is 18. They clearly haven’t written him off but obviously felt he wasn’t ready. Understand what your saying regarding youth players. But pochettino has quite a clear policy regarding prolonged integration as we’ve seen with Winks KWP and now Skipp. Obviously other players will come in time to time to make up numbers. Will just be interesting to see if this is just to give parrott a taste or if he enters the twilight zone of training with seniors and not playing youth games.
 

EQP

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Seems that Barry Bannan, the mainstay CM in the Sheffield team, has been hit with a 2-game ban for yellow card accumulation. This might give Onomah the chance back into the 1st team and hopefully as a CM. Upcoming games are

* Saturday December 15th vs Swansea
* Saturday December 21st vs Preston North End
 

ljinko888

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Seems that Barry Bannan, the mainstay CM in the Sheffield team, has been hit with a 2-game ban for yellow card accumulation. This might give Onomah the chance back into the 1st team and hopefully as a CM. Upcoming games are

* Saturday December 15th vs Swansea
* Saturday December 21st vs Preston North End

Barry Bannan there's a name I haven't heard in years. Considered quite a prospect at Villa iirc
 

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I'm pleased for him and everything but can't imagine the pressure he is under. Best player in the world roasts, him "I don't think he's ready yet". Knows a MOTM performance guarantees him nothing but the smallest slip up and he might not be seen again.

Then I await, "if he can't handle that pressure then he isn't ready to play for Spurs" All I can say is good luck to the player who looks a shadow of his former self at the moment, and if he has a great game, hope for him more than anything he gets another chance and can actually start his career.

Yes the calibur of player will be world class, but least they two to be big and physically so it might play to his strengths I’m sure KWP is far more agile and quicker over 20 m than Trips and SA, but yes he lacks experience.
 

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The fact that just because someone has travelled it is not a signal of intent to integrste them into the first team anytime soon. I'm basing this off history and trends, there have been better players than Parrott that have gone that haven't been integrated and arguably better players than him now that aren't going. It also depends on what you consider as integration, and how that looks?

Sterling, TOB and Amos are all players who have been on a first team bench and got 2mins never to be seen again. Would you consider that integration? or would you be expecting something more?

It may be that he was a signing so might have some clauses or expectations. Might just be going for experience. Kirby went on preseason while an u16. Sometimes things are done for show. I could be totally wrong though and Poch may throw a curveball and he may be a first teamer next year or playing regular first team football in two years but I highly doubt it.

I think Amos would have got minutes this year if it was not for his injury.

IG we have struggled to have 2-3 fit cms no way he would not have got game time.
 
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Flashspur

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Happily.

I think hes armed with the best technique; so thats everything from passing range, 1st touch, 'madskillz'. What he needs to manipulate the ball. He's also quicker and stronger than Winks.

Harry, who is also, but not as technically blessed, is far more positionally aware and responsible. Those are not technical qualities but tactical and strategic.

Few, especially the longstanding youth watchers, would deny Josh's astonishing technical ability.

So he is technically so good he’s better then Winks, Dele or Eriksen? Your having a laugh.

If Josh is so technically adept what is holding him back? Personality, intelligence, aggression, drive? What’s lacking?
 
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