The Summer Transfer Window POST MORTEM THREAD

[dontcallme]

We really need to sort out our scouting network, if he cant find anyone under the radar that would improve our team.

Our scouting network helped put the current team together that is hard to improve upon within a budget.

 

[allatsea]

We really need to sort out our scouting network, if he cant find anyone under the radar that would improve our team.

Not sure that is fair. We are looking for World class or the step below for players that will improve the team. Such players every club should already know about. We seem to be able to identify what we want but are priced out at the moment in transfer fee terms, in Agents fees, and in wages.

 

[luptic]

Not sure that is fair. We are looking for World class or the step below for players that will improve the team. Such players every club should already know about. We seem to be able to identify what we want but are priced out at the moment in transfer fee terms, in Agents fees, and in wages.

Whilst I understand there might not be any players for the now, but we should be looking at future. Why can't we find players before they shine somewhere else, which took a chance on them? For example, Leon Bailey moved last season to Leversuken from Genk, he had shown enough whilst at Genk to show that a Fee of €20m was worth it. There are young players out their worth their salt. If we can't compete with the higher fees then we need to relook at our transfer policy.

 

[dontcallme]

Whilst I understand there might not be any players for the now, but we should be looking at future. Why can't we find players before they shine somewhere else, which took a chance on them? For example, Leon Bailey moved last season to Leversuken from Genk, he had shown enough whilst at Genk to show that a Fee of €20m was worth it. There are young players out their worth their salt. If we can't compete with the higher fees then we need to relook at our transfer policy.

At the moment we have KWP, Onomah, Winks and others looking for a chance where there are few spaces.

I hardly think more youngsters unless really special is what we need.

 

[allatsea]

Whilst I understand there might not be any players for the now, but we should be looking at future. Why can't we find players before they shine somewhere else, which took a chance on them? For example, Leon Bailey moved last season to Leversuken from Genk, he had shown enough whilst at Genk to show that a Fee of €20m was worth it. There are young players out their worth their salt. If we can't compete with the higher fees then we need to relook at our transfer policy.

We have found such players in Alli, Rose, arguably Son, etc.

 

[SirHarryHotspur]

How does Shearer justify his fee on MOD , comes out with a rubbish statement that someone like Mahrez would improve Spurs, might improve Spurs but now way are Spurs going to pay £60 million for any player (at the moment) . Just the usual criticism of not signing anyone absolutely no mention of the success in new contracts for several players including the PL leading striker over the last few seasons or the financial burden of the new stadium which will improve our financial position eventually.

Everton have been chucking money at new players last season £182 million , this season £92 million, lets see if money buys them champions league because like it or not that is what clubs want . The FA cup and League cup might put trophies in your cabinet but financially they are no comparison for CL or PL position. Poch knows that and his aim this season will be to do well in CL & PL doubt we can win either but ultimately to finish 2nd 3rd or 4th

 

[spursfan77]

Not sure that is fair. We are looking for World class or the step below for players that will improve the team. Such players every club should already know about. We seem to be able to identify what we want but are priced out at the moment in transfer fee terms, in Agents fees, and in wages.

I think we should actually be looking at bringing in the best English kids again. Trouble is, we can’t keep our own ones and they are all expensive. I bet someone like Baylis at Coventry or Brereton at Forest wouldn’t cost £10 million combined. A few premier league appearances for them and in the current market you double your money even if it doesn’t work out.

That’s the route we should be going down. That and signing just one big player a window, rather than trying to do a handful of deals at the £20 million mark.

 

[cliff jones]

We have found such players in Alli, Rose, arguably Son, etc.

and this past year we haven't. That's the point, we need to find and land one or two each year. Not all of them will work out, but some will, like one or two you've mentioned yourself.

 

[cliff jones]

How does Shearer justify his fee on MOD , comes out with a rubbish statement that someone like Mahrez would improve Spurs, might improve Spurs but now way are Spurs going to pay £60 million for any player (at the moment) . Just the usual criticism of not signing anyone absolutely no mention of the success in new contracts for several players including the PL leading striker over the last few seasons or the financial burden of the new stadium which will improve our financial position eventually.

Everton have been chucking money at new players last season £182 million , this season £92 million, lets see if money buys them champions league because like it or not that is what clubs want . The FA cup and League cup might put trophies in your cabinet but financially they are no comparison for CL or PL position. Poch knows that and his aim this season will be to do well in CL & PL doubt we can win either but ultimately to finish 2nd 3rd or 4th

you sure about the Everton numbers there? Don't forget, they essentially spent the Lukaku money as we did post-Bale...

 

[SirHarryHotspur]

you sure about the Everton numbers there? Don't forget, they essentially spent the Lukaku money as we did post-Bale...

Those are the figures given by https://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/fc-everton/alletransfers/verein/29 , but of course they may have just guessed the figures.
They definitely have Spurs transfer figures correct zero - zero

Correction on this season Everton figure should be £82 million

 

[sausage]

you sure about the Everton numbers there? Don't forget, they essentially spent the Lukaku money as we did post-Bale...

Their 'net' spend for this summer and last season has been around £120m total (after the Lukaku money) and excludes the money involved in agent fees and golden handshakes that would have been evidently hefty to get certain players on board (Walcott, Bernard, Rooney etc.)

 

[hellava_tough]

Our scouting network helped put the current team together that is hard to improve upon within a budget.

I think there have been all sorts of changes within this team over the last 6 or 7 years

Not sure what the current state of play is with the player identification and recruitment department

 

[hellava_tough]

How does Shearer justify his fee on MOD , comes out with a rubbish statement that someone like Mahrez would improve Spurs, might improve Spurs but now way are Spurs going to pay £60 million for any player (at the moment) . Just the usual criticism of not signing anyone absolutely no mention of the success in new contracts for several players including the PL leading striker over the last few seasons or the financial burden of the new stadium which will improve our financial position eventually.

Everton have been chucking money at new players last season £182 million , this season £92 million, lets see if money buys them champions league because like it or not that is what clubs want . The FA cup and League cup might put trophies in your cabinet but financially they are no comparison for CL or PL position. Poch knows that and his aim this season will be to do well in CL & PL doubt we can win either but ultimately to finish 2nd 3rd or 4th

I think Spurs have got the cash available for the right player; for instance, in a fantasy world where Bale became available for £60m I'd bet that we'd stump up the cash

Agree with you on Shearer though; he's talking nonsense for the simple reasons that (i) Mahrez has been wanting City for at least 12 months and (ii) City are willing to pay him big bucks a week

 

[SirHarryHotspur]

I think Spurs have got the cash available for the right player; for instance, in a fantasy world where Bale became available for £60m I'd bet that we'd stump up the cash

Agree with you on Shearer though; he's talking nonsense for the simple reasons that (i) Mahrez has been wanting City for at least 12 months and (ii) City are willing to pay him big bucks a week

I think another problem is that Levy doesn't like lining the pockets of agents , we are the lowest of the top 6 when it come to agents costs, https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/39526917 , also probably because our outlay on players is lower than the others.

 

[[email protected]]

How does Shearer justify his fee on MOD , comes out with a rubbish statement that someone like Mahrez would improve Spurs, might improve Spurs but now way are Spurs going to pay £60 million for any player (at the moment) . Just the usual criticism of not signing anyone absolutely no mention of the success in new contracts for several players including the PL leading striker over the last few seasons or the financial burden of the new stadium which will improve our financial position eventually.

Everton have been chucking money at new players last season £182 million , this season £92 million, lets see if money buys them champions league because like it or not that is what clubs want . The FA cup and League cup might put trophies in your cabinet but financially they are no comparison for CL or PL position. Poch knows that and his aim this season will be to do well in CL & PL doubt we can win either but ultimately to finish 2nd 3rd or 4th

Mate, have you ever questioned how a club like Everton (36,000 capacity stadium?) can afford to spend £274 million on transfers over consecutive seasons, whereas we, the 10th richest club in the world, and a Champions League participant for the last 3 years with subsequent revenue scheduled to exceed £400 million, are apparently "financially hamstrung" despite being told definitively, that the stadium build "is not going to touch the football, these are very separate budgets" (Matthew Collecott, Director of Finance and Operations). Now either the Club are lying to us about the financial impact of the new WHL, or these so-called financial restrictions is just "spin" to justify Levy's "cheapness" in the transfer market.

 

[hellava_tough]

I think another problem is that Levy doesn't like lining the pockets of agents , we are the lowest of the top 6 when it come to agents costs, https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/39526917 , also probably because our outlay on players is lower than the others.

That's interesting

Are there other reasons why we don't pay more on agents' fees? Could the fee be related to a percentage of the total transfer cost? So if we're not buying players for more than £40m, then the agents' fees are always going to be lower than clubs who spend a lot more on transfer fees?

Not sure...football, like any any multi-billion pound industry, is certainly complex

 

[SirHarryHotspur]

Mate, have you ever questioned how a club like Everton (36,000 capacity stadium?) can afford to spend £274 million on transfers over consecutive seasons, whereas we, the 10th richest club in the world, and a Champions League participant for the last 3 years with subsequent revenue scheduled to exceed £400 million, are apparently "financially hamstrung" despite being told definitively, that the stadium build "is not going to touch the football, these are very separate budgets" (Matthew Collecott, Director of Finance and Operations). Now either the Club are lying to us about the financial impact of the new WHL, or these so-called financial restrictions is just "spin" to justify Levy's "cheapness" in the transfer market.

I think same as happened at Arsenal when they rebuilt they had to sell players to balance the books. Whatever they say the stadium costs are affecting transfer policy mainly because of the apparent huge increase in the cost of building.

Just look at what Daniel was saying last year https://www.givemesport.com/1108929...y-spurs-arent-making-any-signings-this-summer , so don't expect big signings in the near future.

 

[[email protected]]

I think same as happened at Arsenal when they rebuilt they had to sell players to balance the books. Whatever they say the stadium costs are affecting transfer policy mainly because of the apparent huge increase in the cost of building.

I suspect you could be right mate, and if that is the case, the Club should be honest and transparent and tell us. But I doubt they will mate. To do so would be to demonstrate conclusively where ENIC's true priorities and motives lie.

 

[SirHarryHotspur]

I suspect you could be right mate, and if that is the case, the Club should be honest and transparent and tell us. But I doubt they will mate. To do so would be to demonstrate conclusively where ENIC's true priorities and motives lie.

It's not all doom and gloom. The following players all still have future improvement to come, Sanchez, Kane, Dele, Son,Eriksen, Dier,Moura ,Lamela , Winks and Davies, plus some of the untried younger players, I have left out Aurier not sure he can improve.
Hugo , Jan ,Toby and others are at their peak, this squad was good enough the match R Madrid and should have beaten Juventus we have to trust Poch to conjure another great season out of these players .

And when ENIC sell out we have a world class stadium and training centre to pass on to the new owners.

 

[dontcallme]

I think there have been all sorts of changes within this team over the last 6 or 7 years

Not sure what the current state of play is with the player identification and recruitment department

I think as our squad quality improves buying players to improve us becomes harder.