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The Summer Transfer Window POST MORTEM THREAD

BringBack_leGin

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£60m in profit last season.
And we've just committed to giving Harry Kane an extra £5m over the next season, and another extra £5m between Son
May I add, after speaking to one of the Liverpuddle ITK, who is family to their hierarchy.

They made a decision to act quick and incisive, before the market got crazy. They knew they would have challenges on their outs. They told those that would be available, with their agents the score. Lots more I cannot print.

In a nutshell. I DO NOT WANT TO HEAR THE BULLSHIT ABOUT WE HAD TO SHIFT FIRST, HG ‘Meh, meh!’

Daniel Levy COCKED UP! And before anyone starts defending I’m. Privately is known why I state this strongly.

For the record, I vote very strong-NO CONFIDENCE in DANIEL Levy conducting our transfer business. And he SHOULD be removed from this role. Give someone else the budget, and let them deal with it!

STICK TO THE COMMERCIAL BUSINESS OF OUR GREAT CLUB Daniel.

Please nobody start singing roses over his Poch is happy. That is not technically true! There are reasons I have shared privately. And we run a great risk of him walking in 12 months.
Daniel got it wrong this summer. However, and forgive me for speaking for an uninformed position as I don't have access to the information you have so can only base my opinion on what I see happen on the pitch/ in the league, I don't think I can get on board with 'removing Daniel' from anything until we visibly go backwards in those two areas I have access to. Right now, all I can base my support/ lack of support for Daniel Levy on is league tables and quality of football. I don't really care about anything else. These two things have both consistently improved since 2005, with the odd blip. Even if this season is a blip, he's done more than enough good that I'd be willing to give him the chance to make up for it.

I'm not saying this as a blind Levy-ite/ BSoDL member. I'm saying this as someone who is as passionate about this club as you clearly are, and who, based on the only tangible information available to me, has genuine faith that Daniel Levy is still the right person to take us forward from the top. That is a faith he has earned. Back in 2003 when Hoddle had just been sacked and we were left with a side including a knackered Gus Poyet, a crocked Christian Ziege and a bunch of slapdash loanees in Toda, Konchesky and Dalmat, I was one of the loudest shouters for getting rid of Levy, and that was a mere almost 3 years into his tenure. In the 15 years since he has built a great club in the most spectacular fashion, by doing it without throwing money at it, taking the hits where we had to (Berbatov, Modric, Bale, etc) and having faith in a plan which was working.

He has earned the right to, in my opinion, assess whether that plan still works or not, and then implement accordingly.

Once again, I say this fully acceptant that I know a fraction of what you know, so please accept that this is based only on what tangibles I see in front of me at each match I go to/ watch.
 

joelstinton14

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The problem is out great chairman seems to wants to pay 2012 prices for our main targets. So what chance do we have to get our targets. You got to face up that the price structure has changed.

Is that really true though? I think it is a kind of myth that as gained traction with frustrations surrounding what we do compared to others in the TW. When Sky Sports reported the Grealish 25 million offer they said that other clubs have bid the same amount.

Last year we spent 42 million on a relatively unknown defender. 27 mil on Son, 26 on Moura. 30 on Sissoko! We're willing to spend money. You could maybe argue that we're not willing to push deals over the line by adding 5 mil on, or we are unable to offer larger up front sums that maybe the likes of City and Liverpool can do, but then i, or no one here is really privy to that information so can't say for sure.

I just think levy wants to business by perceived market prices and not to spend extra than that or get mugged off like villa were trying with an apparent 35 million evaluation of grealish.
 
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matthew.absurdum

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Okay. Relax Time. One of my favorite moment in this window is that the fake Herc claimed that Grealish's brother knew nothing in Twitter :LOL::LOL::LOL:
 

glospur

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May I add, after speaking to one of the Liverpuddle ITK, who is family to their hierarchy.

They made a decision to act quick and incisive, before the market got crazy. They knew they would have challenges on their outs. They told those that would be available, with their agents the score. Lots more I cannot print.

In a nutshell. I DO NOT WANT TO HEAR THE BULLSHIT ABOUT WE HAD TO SHIFT FIRST, HG ‘Meh, meh!’

Daniel Levy COCKED UP! And before anyone starts defending him. Privately is known why I state this strongly.

For the record, I vote very strong-NO CONFIDENCE in DANIEL LEVY conducting our transfer business. And he SHOULD be removed from this role. Give someone else the budget, and let them deal with it!

STICK TO THE COMMERCIAL BUSINESS OF OUR GREAT CLUB Daniel.

Please nobody start singing roses over his Poch is happy. That is not technically true! There are reasons I have shared privately. And we run a great risk of him walking in 12 months.
Liverpool acted before the market went crazy? Considering Keita was done last season, this window they paid a, at the time, world record fee for a keeper and more than 50m on a decent to good, but not world class CM, and bought a forward who none of us wanted anyway. They also missed out on one of their top targets in Fekir, who they were chasing all summer.

They got their players because they were prepared to overpay. Fair enough to them too, but it's clear that we're not going to go pay world record fees for someone just to get them in. In fact, the results make it clear that to get anyone half decent in, a club had to overpay massively. The exception is Woolwich, but then there are significant question marks over how good their signings are anyway. The only deal done by a top 6 club for a top player that wasn't a ridiculous fee was Kovacic, but thanks, I wouldn't have wanted to give Madrid one of our best players to make that loan happen. And that's before even getting to the likes of Richarlison etc.

The journos at Pochettino's press conference today said that he was open and candid, even philosophical at times. From what they're saying of his demeanour, it sounds like if he was actually just spinning the frame of the story and secretly seething then he should give up the managers game sharpish and start applying for jobs in Hollywood.
 
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Sid Tottenham

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Levy tries to be too clever, trouble is everyone’s seen it already by now
They’ve all wised up.
Even the best manager he has ever appointed, and I’m assuming a bit, must of been made certain promises to sign that contract.
Promises which levy didn’t deliver.
I can’t see him staying if a big club comes for him next time.
Fool me once blah blah
Hope I’m wrong
 

Hotspurious

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Disgraceful job by Levy. Pathetic. At least the arseholes down the road try to improve their squad while settling for the Top Four trophy.
 

Trix

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As long as none of the core players are allowed to leave in the next three weeks we should be stronger than we were last season . Toby, Lamela, Moura, and Rose were hardly used last season for one reason or another, so all four back in the fold should give us quite a bit more depth and the chance to rotate a bit.

Levy though has failed big time this window though, plain and simple. Just hope we go on a run and qualify for the CL because if we don't a lot of the blame will rest with him.
 

Tucker

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We should all be hoping for united to get off to a flier this season. If Mourinho throws his toys out the pram, I can’t see Poch turning them down now.
 

spursfan77

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Aug 13, 2005
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I started to get cross about 2 weeks ago when it was obvious we weren’t going to get the targets we were after. So in fact I’m not that mad today.

I just now fear for the manager because when Mourinho goes Man Utd will be in for him. The only saving grace that he might not go there is that it doesn’t look like Woodward backs his manager either!
 

SirHarryHotspur

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Personally not bothered by no signings, most important thing is nobody has left. People go on about getting back up for Harry what half decent player is going to come as back up if he has to sit on the bench the whole season waiting for Harry to get injured.

Sky go an about how Everton , West Ham etc have had a wonderful transfer windows, lets see where we are in the league compared to them next May . And the richest club in the world just one signing who can't get in the Brazil team ahead of Paulhino.
 

Trix

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Disgraceful job by Levy. Pathetic. At least the arseholes down the road try to improve their squad while settling for the Top Four trophy.

Hold on a minute they lost their best players one by one pretty much every window. Yes they brought players in but it was never a case of them trying to Improve. I'd rather Keep our stars than let them go and replace with slightly lesser players.
 

Hakkz

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Jul 6, 2012
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As long as none of the core players are allowed to leave in the next three weeks we should be stronger than we were last season . Toby, Lamela, Moura, and Rose were hardly used last season for one reason or another, so all four back in the fold should give us quite a bit more depth and the chance to rotate a bit.

Levy though has failed big time this window though, plain and simple. Just hope we go on a run and qualify for the CL because if we don't a lot of the blame will rest with him.

The problem with some of these players is that we don't know how much they will play the coming season anyway based on their injury records. One relapse..
 

Ndombers

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As long as none of the core players are allowed to leave in the next three weeks we should be stronger than we were last season . Toby, Lamela, Moura, and Rose were hardly used last season for one reason or another, so all four back in the fold should give us quite a bit more depth and the chance to rotate a bit.

Levy though has failed big time this window though, plain and simple. Just hope we go on a run and qualify for the CL because if we don't a lot of the blame will rest with him.

All of it
 

Stamford

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Sep 15, 2015
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The way you brush off Toby staying says it all, and this doesn't only apply to you.

He's better than any player we would sign this summer even in the most "successful" of windows.

Then on top of that, Harry signing a new contract is even better.

But that should be the bare minimum for a club with our ambition. Its nice news but we should be adding to this team which has won nada.
 

mattyspurs

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Jan 31, 2005
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Are ITKs allowed to bash other ITKs?

I see no reason to doubt the integrity of JJs information, and in fact trust him the most.
This is exactly why any ITK needs to be taken with a pinch of salt.

Who knows what to believe. I personally enjoy the ITK from everyone that shares it, appreciate it the way it should be appreciated. But I never allow myself to pin my hopes on anything that is said.

This is why if deals don’t happen I can’t be upset or annoyed about it.

We have two very well respected ITK’s saying different things. Confusing
 
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