The Times- West Ham open to sharing Olympic Stadium

Khilari

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I've got no probs with flags and banners, it's paying people to wave them that's shit.
Sure

Although if someone asked me to wave a Spurs flag - I'd say "yes please"

If they said they'd chuck in a tenner for doing it - I'd say "yes please" and probably wave with some added vigour.
 

dazzle

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Just stumbled across this - from 3:40 onwards these lads sneak into the Olympic stadium. Security is pretty tin-pot by the looks of it. :D

 
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Kudos for the kids getting in & climbing up to the roof etc, but you'd think they'd be smart enough to cover their faces. I think they might be getting a knock on their respective doors from the local constabulary at some stage ...
West Ham security as good as everything else at West Ham, clearly.
 

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So West Ham pay £15 million to use the stadium too but if another football club uses the stadium they get 50% of that back. Clause 20.5 on page 70.

Not bad for them. Surely us playing there for a year would be good for them if they got £7.5 million back?

http://queenelizabetholympicpark.co.uk/~/media/lldc/concession agreement 2016.pdf
So what you're effectively saying is tottenham play there for Zaza's left leg and kidney if he plays more than 14 games. Seems fair...
 

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I am sure we have penciled in something with Wembley for next season.

Even thou the OS might be a cheaper option, but Wembley is the better footballing venue. And it feels more like "home" then a soulless bowl.

Sharing a home with the spammers? Even for a season? :depressed:
 

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The last few pages of this thread are hilarious. They have all woken up to what a state the OS is and how badly they were lied to. http://www.kumb.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=164789&st=0&sk=t&sd=a&start=2060 They have another thread on their stadium forum where people have just made a couple of 'why was there no protest' comments. I am beyond relieved we never moved to Stratford, either to the OS or a new ground on that plot. The walk to the ground from the station - crap, the ground - crap, the ability to steward/police - crap. The whole thing is an unmitigated disaster and we are going to end up with something an order of magnitude better than that stadium will ever be.
 

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We wouldn't have any of those issues though.

We'd have had a purpose built football stadium with transport factored in.
 

Phischy

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We wouldn't have any of those issues though.

We'd have had a purpose built football stadium with transport factored in.
I think it's true that we wouldn't have the issues they have inside the stadium, but even the walk from the station the long way around is pretty naff apparently. Because the area is so expansive (compared to streets around most stadiums) they are really struggling to stop gangs of opposing fans from roving around and making a scene. It would be hard to avoid that had we gone there.

I agree it would have been better than their situation had we gone there, but I remain delighted that we didn't given the struggles they've had, and, given how new it all is, the possibility that it could get worse before it gets better.
 

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The last few pages of this thread are hilarious. They have all woken up to what a state the OS is and how badly they were lied to. http://www.kumb.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=164789&st=0&sk=t&sd=a&start=2060 They have another thread on their stadium forum where people have just made a couple of 'why was there no protest' comments. I am beyond relieved we never moved to Stratford, either to the OS or a new ground on that plot. The walk to the ground from the station - crap, the ground - crap, the ability to steward/police - crap. The whole thing is an unmitigated disaster and we are going to end up with something an order of magnitude better than that stadium will ever be.
We wouldn't have any of those issues though.

We'd have had a purpose built football stadium with transport factored in.
I would not have liked us to move there. However we proposed a stadium far more like a football stadium than West Ham's current pseudo-atheletics/football stadium.

Financially it would have been a massive win for us and whilst I like to think Levy as a fan was only using it to try and gain some leverage with David Lammy and the Mayor's office for some public involvement in regeneration of the area, I think he'd probably have taken the Olympic stadium option had he won it.

You can argue that we may not have been in a position for a NFL tie in given we wouldn't have owned the stadium nor for any naming rights windfall, but I can't think that will offset the £400+ million our new stadium will end up costing us.
 

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I would not have liked us to move there. However we proposed a stadium far more like a football stadium than West Ham's current pseudo-atheletics/football stadium.

Financially it would have been a massive win for us and whilst I like to think Levy as a fan was only using it to try and gain some leverage with David Lammy and the Mayor's office for some public involvement in regeneration of the area, I think he'd probably have taken the Olympic stadium option had he won it.

You can argue that we may not have been in a position for a NFL tie in given we wouldn't have owned the stadium nor for any naming rights windfall, but I can't think that will offset the £400+ million our new stadium will end up costing us.
At the risk of repeating myself, I sat in a room opposite Daniel Levy and Donna Cullen and discussed the matter with them. As a fan you or anyone can tell themselves anything you like, he was 100% committed to the move to Stratford, to the point that he was convinced that building in Tottenham may never be possible. Had we won that contest we would have moved, not least because winning the contest would have obliged us to go! We were in it to win it and spent substantial sums on it. I am just mightily relieved we didn't. We might have ended up with a better stadium than West Ham have, but I remain convinced that many of those in favour would have changed their minds within a year or two of a move, much as the West Ham fans are doing now following their move.
 

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At the risk of repeating myself, I sat in a room opposite Daniel Levy and Donna Cullen and discussed the matter with them. As a fan you or anyone can tell themselves anything you like, he was 100% committed to the move to Stratford, to the point that he was convinced that building in Tottenham may never be possible. Had we won that contest we would have moved, not least because winning the contest would have obliged us to go! We were in it to win it and spent substantial sums on it. I am just mightily relieved we didn't. We might have ended up with a better stadium than West Ham have, but I remain convinced that many of those in favour would have changed their minds within a year or two of a move, much as the West Ham fans are doing now following their move.
Why would ppl have changed their minds?

The spurs stadium at the Olympic park would have been a purpose built football stadium, very possibly better than NWHL simply because the space and finances would have allowed it.

We would have had almost certainly the best stadium in the world, bang in the middle of a purpose built sports village, right near City Airport, the City, Docklands etc.
Plus, the vast majority of our fans, including our season ticket holders, do not live in Tottenham and would have found Stratford far far easier to get to.

If you ignore the (crucial) fact that it would have meant leaving our boroughs and moving nearer West Ham's stamping ground, a purpose built Spurs stadium at the Olympic site was a no brainer.
 

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Why would ppl have changed their minds?

The spurs stadium at the Olympic park would have been a purpose built football stadium, very possibly better than NWHL simply because the space and finances would have allowed it.

We would have had almost certainly the best stadium in the world, bang in the middle of a purpose built sports village, right near City Airport, the City, Docklands etc.
Plus, the vast majority of our fans, including our season ticket holders, do not live in Tottenham and would have found Stratford far far easier to get to.

If you ignore the (crucial) fact that it would have meant leaving our boroughs and moving nearer West Ham's stamping ground, a purpose built Spurs stadium at the Olympic site was a no brainer.
All spot on and as Alan Sugar said on Spammers plan "The tax payer will be blowing more than fucking bubbles"
 
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Why would ppl have changed their minds?

The spurs stadium at the Olympic park would have been a purpose built football stadium, very possibly better than NWHL simply because the space and finances would have allowed it.

We would have had almost certainly the best stadium in the world, bang in the middle of a purpose built sports village, right near City Airport, the City, Docklands etc.
Plus, the vast majority of our fans, including our season ticket holders, do not live in Tottenham and would have found Stratford far far easier to get to.

If you ignore the (crucial) fact that it would have meant leaving our boroughs and moving nearer West Ham's stamping ground, a purpose built Spurs stadium at the Olympic site was a no brainer.

As I argued at the time, London is pretty much unique in the world for not having a city-branded team. It is inevitable, given the commercialisation of football, that there will arise a London team - London Gunners, London Blues, something like that. Around the world, London is an icon, a city brand equalled only by New York, and possibly San Francisco. It could have been London Hotspur, now it never will be us.

The next big club to build a new stadium will have a chance - Chelsea probably. There'll be protests, and some fans will threaten to walk away from London Blues (or whatever). It won't stop it happening. Sky would cream themselves, the Premier League would change any rules necessary to make it happen. An oligarch will buy however much London real estate is neccessary. That club will join United, Barca and Real at a top table that we can never aspire to, however well we succeed on the pitch.

I'm sure some will think we dodged a bullet. I don't.
 

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As I argued at the time, London is pretty much unique in the world for not having a city-branded team. It is inevitable, given the commercialisation of football, that there will arise a London team - London Gunners, London Blues, something like that. Around the world, London is an icon, a city brand equalled only by New York, and possibly San Francisco. It could have been London Hotspur, now it never will be us.

The next big club to build a new stadium will have a chance - Chelsea probably. There'll be protests, and some fans will threaten to walk away from London Blues (or whatever). It won't stop it happening. Sky would cream themselves, the Premier League would change any rules necessary to make it happen. An oligarch will buy however much London real estate is neccessary. That club will join United, Barca and Real at a top table that we can never aspire to, however well we succeed on the pitch.

I'm sure some will think we dodged a bullet. I don't.
You'd like us to change our name? Sorry have to disagree on that.
 
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