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Japhet

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Its totally out of sync with real life. 50m for Stones / Walker. 40m for Gilfi Sigurdsson


It's also totally ridiculous that some players can earn as much in a month as most of us could earn in our entire working life, and yet we constantly read that these players are 'worth' their obscene wages.
 

ShayLaB

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I have gone from entertained to disgusted by football.

The bursting bubble will probably blow away half the teams in top divisions around Europe. The whole facade is run by investors looking to suck every last penny out of us.

The salaries are utterly obscene and the whole circus is hyped up to be something it's not.

It's just entertainment, but the money involved means that finances are the most important consideration for any club. My MU friend gloated about winning a treble last year but had to admit that it was an utter chore to sit through it.

Most fans I know rarely sit down to watch a match anymore. They either complain about the time and money of going, or they just leave the TV on an do other things when it's on.

Tulip bubble, tech bubble, housing bubble...football bubble.
 
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knilly

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The thing we should be looking at is who will be left standing after the bubble has burst?
 

Shadydan

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It's also totally ridiculous that some players can earn as much in a month as most of us could earn in our entire working life, and yet we constantly read that these players are 'worth' their obscene wages.

It's supply and demand...Floyd Mayweather's getting paid $100m to box in a ring for half an hour, such is life.
 

Japhet

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It's supply and demand...Floyd Mayweather's getting paid $100m to box in a ring for half an hour, such is life.


Don't get me started on that mate! The circus that's going on at the moment is ridiculous. The fact that thousands of people want to be at the pantomime pre fight events to watch 2 men slag each other off around the globe is quite bizarre, particularly in the knowledge that straight after the fight they will be telling the world how much respect they have for each other. It's all designed to generate money for people and organizations who have far too much of it in the first place and the gullible public can't get enough of it even though they know they're being ripped off. See - you did get me started!
 

Cornpattbuck

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I know a lot of people who can't be arsed watching football these days exactly because of the transfer fees/wages side. Can see why they've become so disillusioned with it to be honest. Feels like FM in cheat mode a lot of the time.
 

Lappi

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It'll be very interesting to see how interview streaming affects TV rights. As other people have said, Sky are losing viewers and subscribers. They've just announced a price change but it's not really that different. Football's gotten away with it, relative to music & films, because of the need for a smooth, live stream meant tit took a lot longer for most people's internet to get good enough that streaming is a legitimate option. It is now for most people (even if most of these people don't know where to look or how to do it).,

I suspect the Premier League will just just about fine, as any fall in the domestic TV rights deal can be offset by an increase in overseas rights deal (which still has a lot of capacity to increase). But we should be seeing far less income growth from TV rights, overall. Which is good, the last 20 years has seen a vast transfer of wealth from consumers to the football industry, based off pay tv companies buying monopoly rights to show games then squeezing fans to pay for it.
 

Lappi

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Additionally, i'm slightly worried that we're building a hugely expensive stadium at a time when TV rights could start to drop in a few years, but i think we'l be ok
 

Woodyy

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Additionally, i'm slightly worried that we're building a hugely expensive stadium at a time when TV rights could start to drop in a few years, but i think we'l be ok

When the bubble does burst the proportion of a club's revenue made up by ticket sales will be massive compared to now, it's imperative we have a large stadium when the inevitable does happen.
 

SugarRay

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Additionally, i'm slightly worried that we're building a hugely expensive stadium at a time when TV rights could start to drop in a few years, but i think we'l be ok

In theory, whilst other clubs have been using the TV money on fees and wages etc, we've put a fair amount of it towards the training centre and new stadium, both of which will leave us in a fantastic position whenever the TV money drops off/bubble bursts.
 

Led's Zeppelin

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When the bubble does burst the proportion of a club's revenue made up by ticket sales will be massive compared to now, it's imperative we have a large stadium when the inevitable does happen.


Sadly in some ways, it's not inevitable.

The film star bubble hasn't burst and we're more than 100 years into that one, and Matt Damon isn't looking too worried.

People still spend stupid money on diamonds and gold for no good reason.

Ed Shearan FFS earns more than the top surgeon in the country.

Don't try to be rational about it. It's what it is, and £50m for good defender or a decent midfielder like Siggy is the new benchmark and it won't go backwards from here.
 

WalkerboyUK

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I'd love to know my grandfather's opinion on fees nowadays...
In 1949 he became Man Utd's record signing!!!
 

mpickard2087

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As I said the other week, I honestly think a lot of the fault lies with football fans. They just lap it up and accept it.

If you wanted change the way is to be to scare clubs into not spending and wasting so much money. Protest about wasted money on signings, boycott matches, hassle those in charge and remind them every day that they've pissed money up the wall on certain players etc.

It would take a concerted effort though across the board, which won't happen. A large proportion of fans of all clubs love the transfer season (you can see that by the amount of posters on here who only turn up in the summer & January) and are just conditioned to spend spend spend. The 'just fucking pay whatever they want Levy, you ****!!!!' type posts are already surfacing... and until the attitudes turn away from that and the 'they've spent 50m, we'd better spend 60m' it won't change.

It also requires putting the principle in front of results, which again is nigh on impossible.
 

tobi

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I'm surprised its taken this long for the fees to reach these levels and I don't have a problem with it.
 

RichieS

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It's also totally ridiculous that some players can earn as much in a month as most of us could earn in our entire working life, and yet we constantly read that these players are 'worth' their obscene wages.
What would you rather happened to the money that clubs have? It be funnelled into the pockets of Chairmen and other shareholders?

The obvious answer is that ticket prices could be drastically reduced but in the grand scheme of things they're not that expensive anyway.
 

Japhet

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Additionally, i'm slightly worried that we're building a hugely expensive stadium at a time when TV rights could start to drop in a few years, but i think we'l be ok
What would you rather happened to the money that clubs have? It be funnelled into the pockets of Chairmen and other shareholders?

The obvious answer is that ticket prices could be drastically reduced but in the grand scheme of things they're not that expensive anyway.


It could be funnelled down to lower divisions where many clubs exist on the edge of bankruptcy.
 

spursfan77

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I think you are doing something fundamentally wrong as a football club when you have to pay £55 million for a right back.

If they can piss that amount of money up the wall then they can afford to drop ticket prices. That's what really annoys me.
 
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