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nailsy

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A Botswana 400m gold medal prospect has been banned from competing in tonights final with suspected noro virus

Why is that a farce? It's an infectious condition that could ruin prevent other athletes from competing if they catch it. I guess it depends on why they suspect he has it.
 

nedley

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Why is that a farce? It's an infectious condition that could ruin prevent other athletes from competing if they catch it. I guess it depends on why they suspect he has it.

Well he hasn't got it by all account. They have done NO tests to prove it.

Yet the FA are quite happy for us to field 11 players puking up their guts with the same thing.
 

Mr.D

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Is that our very own Paul Coyte doing the announcements? At the London Stadium? That'd be beautiful if it is.
 

nailsy

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Well he hasn't got it by all account. They have done NO tests to prove it.

Yet the FA are quite happy for us to field 11 players puking up their guts with the same thing.

Well in that case it does seem ridiculous.

And we all know that game should have been postponed.
 

Mustard

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Why is that a farce? It's an infectious condition that could ruin prevent other athletes from competing if they catch it. I guess it depends on why they suspect he has it.


He hasn't got it and if they wanted to take precautions he could have easily been quarantined till the race. I accept heats and semis may be a different case but not a final.
 

nightgoat

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He hasn't got it and if they wanted to take precautions he could have easily been quarantined till the race. I accept heats and semis may be a different case but not a final.

Why should a final be any different if there is a perceived threat of infection to other athletes and anyone else he may come into contact with?

Has Makwala said categorically he doesn't have norovirus or has he just said he himself felt fit enough to race? Regardless of what he may feel he is not a doctor.

He said himself that he was vomiting yesterday before the 200m heats so clearly there is, or at least has been something wrong with him. Neither he nor his federation made a fuss about him being withdrawn from the 200m - an event in which he has the world leading time this year so would be expected to medal - but they do when he's withdrawn from the 400m. The Irish hurdler Thomas Barr was withdrawn from his semi-final for the same reason, but has accepted the decision.

Either Makwala has norovirus as well, in which case he can have no complaints about being withdrawn, or he and his federation have tried to pull a fast one and get him out of the 200m to give himself a better chance in the 400m. And if he withdraws from an event for which he is listed for any non-medical reason then under IAAF rules he cannot take part in any further events in the Championships.
 

Mustard

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Why should a final be any different if there is a perceived threat of infection to other athletes and anyone else he may come into contact with?

Has Makwala said categorically he doesn't have norovirus or has he just said he himself felt fit enough to race? Regardless of what he may feel he is not a doctor.

He said himself that he was vomiting yesterday before the 200m heats so clearly there is, or at least has been something wrong with him. Neither he nor his federation made a fuss about him being withdrawn from the 200m - an event in which he has the world leading time this year so would be expected to medal - but they do when he's withdrawn from the 400m. The Irish hurdler Thomas Barr was withdrawn from his semi-final for the same reason, but has accepted the decision.

Either Makwala has norovirus as well, in which case he can have no complaints about being withdrawn, or he and his federation have tried to pull a fast one and get him out of the 200m to give himself a better chance in the 400m. And if he withdraws from an event for which he is listed for any non-medical reason then under IAAF rules he cannot take part in any further events in the Championships.


Not quite. The IAAF banned him for 48hrs which meant he missed the 400m final. He wasn't diagnosed with the lurgy. He didn't withdraw himself as far as he says.

His own doctors published his temp and heart rate which were normal. His federation received no news till they went on the BBC.

As someone else said can you imagine if this was the UK team and it was Farah or Johnson Thompson?
 

nightgoat

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Not quite. The IAAF banned him for 48hrs which meant he missed the 400m final. He wasn't diagnosed with the lurgy. He didn't withdraw himself as far as he says.

His own doctors published his temp and heart rate which were normal. His federation received no news till they went on the BBC.

As someone else said can you imagine if this was the UK team and it was Farah or Johnson Thompson?

It's the IAAF making the decision, not UK Athletics. Why would they prevent one of the favourites for an event from competing, to the detriment of the race and the Championships as a whole, without good reason to do so?
 

theShiznit

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It's the IAAF making the decision, not UK Athletics. Why would they prevent one of the favourites for an event from competing, to the detriment of the race and the Championships as a whole, without good reason to do so?
The whole thing seemed like a right cock up with the BBC playing a game of he said she said last night contributing to the farcical nature of the whole thing.

First up IAAF give out a vague statement saying in the safety of other competitors the Botswanan was suspended (quarantined in room) for 48 hours.

Then the Botswanan's say "we've had no word as to why he's been suspended and no tests have been done on the athlete"...

Then the IAAF come back saying there was a test done with three representatives of the Botswanan team present.

BBC now have the medical examiner and Botswanan team chief present, they both claim they were not present and the Athlete in question claims he was sat there alone for 30 minutes, all that was done was checked his blood pressure and temperature and they asked a few questions. (the medical report backs up this claim about the tests)

A whole load more discrepancies unfolded including times of documents sent from IAAF to the Botswanans and the medical exams themselves, then the Botswanan Medical guy added that he thinks the confusion comes as the runner said he was sick getting off the bus to the stadium on Monday, the IAAF claim he told them he was also sick the night before at 10pm. A claim he denies and the medical officer said he has pictures of him giving the runner a massage on his Instagram at that time...
Also no one he has contact with (including masseurs) has developed the virus.

The whole thing was a joke, but it's clear neither party is/was telling the whole truth, as new claims were being thrown in all the time.

Oh this also included at one point in the night the guy trying to enter the ground and being turned away like a criminal (videoed for posterity) so he was free to roam about infecting everyone outside the stadium (who subsequently were allowed to enter)
 

Mustard

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It's the IAAF making the decision, not UK Athletics. Why would they prevent one of the favourites for an event from competing, to the detriment of the race and the Championships as a whole, without good reason to do so?


I'm more talking about the weight UK athletics would bare down on the IAAF. They would get a hearing tout suite and it would be cleared up one way or another correctly....Or as correct as the clowns in charge could make it.
 

Wellspurs

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Well he's in the 200m semi without qualifying!!!
The FA should have given us fourth all those years ago?

edit he has qualified now given a dogs chance wuith a run on his own.
 
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Spurs 1961

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It's the IAAF making the decision, not UK Athletics. Why would they prevent one of the favourites for an event from competing, to the detriment of the race and the Championships as a whole, without good reason to do so?
No question if it had been the USA or GB or any team that matters it would have been treated differently. But Botswana, well they don't count
 

Gb160

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No question if it had been the USA or GB or any team that matters it would have been treated differently. But Botswana, well they don't count
Not sure that's the case, I think the difference is if it was USA or GB , it would've been handled differently by our administration, the IAAF would've been threatened instantly with all sorts of stuff and the resolution would've been made sooner...not sure Botswana have that much experience with this sort of thing.
Shame it come down to the BBC to expose it in the way it was.
 

Mr.D

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Samba literally doing the samba across the finish line in the 400mt hurdles. Lol
 

Col_M

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The ladies 400m final, what a sad finish to the race.
 

Col_M

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Delighted for that Norwegian dude, he's a bit of a nutter.
 
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