There or not there?

[Gb160]

Honestly think the people that post most frequently in match threads would be better off actually watching the game and keeping their terribly important opinions to themselves until at the very least the match has fucking finished.

It's great reading the often overly pessimistic, knee-jerky shite minute by minute. Its like having a more opinionated BBC Live text if the guy in charge of updates was mentally unstable.

IMO being there would give a better understanding of the game, seeing the whole pitch away from camera views would personally give me a better feel of what's happening.

You're right btw, Aurier was fucking shite apart from one cross.

It's mainly sad, lonely people watching the match on their jacks....and when you read the drivel that's normally posted it's really not surprising they haven't got a queue of mates begging to come round and watch the match with them.

 

[TheSpillage]

Being at the game is always best, but with the caveat of where you're seated. I always go east upper (or wembly equivalent) on the halfway line so I always get a good view of the game. If you're right down the front, behind the goal or corner flags, its really hard to guage what's going on sometimes.

You might be right about that. I’m always in the ‘Park Lane’ end of Wembley. Probably don’t see as much as I could

 

[Paolo10]

Though tbf...I've seen Spurs live a grand total of twice, both away (once in Sweden and once at Loftus Rd.). Home debut will be the new stadium if they ever fucking finish it.

 

[wrd]

I see not incessantly posting about Aurier playing poor is going well.

 

[Paolo10]

I see not incessantly posting about Aurier playing poor is going well.

Guy gave an opinion and I agreed with it, because he was shite.

 

[TheChosenOne]

Like A&C I have attended hundreds of live matches, it is a totally different experience in every sensory way compared to television viewing with it's 47 cameras at every possible location, it is a ritualistic thing going on.
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Sky and the others give us the ability to watch but the directors and producers work to a method which although good has some negative points. Then you get "highlights" - some of those should be called lowlights.

I suppose those of us scattered hundreds and thousands of miles from our teams have to grin and bear it.

 

[Dougal]

Been going regularly for over 20 years until last October. Been watching every game on a screen since. You get your smartarse know it alls both in the pub and at the game, it’s all about opinions but at the end of the day you just can’t beat being there.

 

[TheSpillage]

Been going regularly for over 20 years until last October. Been watching every game on a screen since. You get your smartarse know it alls both in the pub and at the game, it’s all about opinions but at the end of the day you just can’t beat being there.

I definitely enjoy being there more than watching it on tv and reading the match thread (with all due respect SC)

 

[easley91]

I can see things at the game I don't see on TV and vice versa. If you go to the game then watch it back, I guarantee you will see things you missed or didn't realise. Depending on where you are in the ground, you may think something was offside or a foul, which watching on TV you will get the benefit of multiple camera angles and replays. If you're at the game and high up, you get the benefit of seeing the game tactically and how it plays out that way.

 

[ralphs bald spot]

You see much more at a game - the perspective and movement - Watching on the box is ok but the incessant replays the over analysis all are a pain in the arse.

 

[Tit&Ham]

The Dortmund game wasn’t a 3-0 game on TV either... but after that first half we looked so composed. No danger at the back, lot of great pressing, creative and fluent attacks.

But to win 3-0, you normally expect 10-1 in good goalscoring oppertunities. It was probably more like 5-2 or something.

 

[southlondonyiddo]

Depends where you sit but if you’ve got a good view of the whole pitch you see much more than on tv and you havnt got some inane commentary to listen to either

On TV you only get to see what they want you to see and you only hear what they want to tell you

Being there 100%

 

[blackburn]

Good thread, I was at the Dortmund match and watching the highlights showed a very different match. I've seen Spurs hundreds of times, most of them without the big screen showing ht replays and the majority of fans only ever saw a 5 minute clip on MOTD.

Let's be honest, most of us decide who's had a good game before KO, we all have our favourites and scapegoats and see what we choose to justify them. I never saw Ledley have a bad game and would go to great lengths to explain why Hoddle had an off day. And I never understood why John Pratt and Jenas got so much stick.

Football used to be taken for what it was, a saturday afternoon with your mates following your team, now its a 24/7 obsession for some.

 

[Gareth88]

I moved to London 3 years ago and having the luxury of being able to watch games in person I started to notice things about broadcasters and their editing and also live coverage that really annoy me. When Im watching Sky sports for example the waste on average about 2-3mins through out the 90 randomly just staring at players on the bench.

 

[dontcallme]

It’s an interesting one. There are certainly bits you pick up on when watching live that you don’t get from the TV.

But sometimes TV can clarify something quickly that couldn’t be seen live.

One thing I am sure of is anyone claiming to know more about football because they go to games is a muppet.

 

[Saoirse]

I think it depends a lot on how you experience the games you go to. For me that involves drinking several more pints than is typically reccomended, standing behind the goal, and going bananas at any oppourtunity. Great fun, but definitely does not leave you the most knowledgeable about what actually happened - I sometimes find myself watching a full replay of the match afterwards, at least on the occasions where it isn't depressing! Whereas last year I had a seat upper tier on the half-way line, and I think from there you can see more about the game than you do through the television.

 

[spursfan77]

Neither knows better.

On tv you don't see some of the work off the ball that some players do or some of the in game adjustments that are made. For example I know someone who thinks Dele does nothing and is all shapes and tricks. If he went to a game he'd understand exactly what Dele does.

At the match you don't see replays or certain other things that might impact the game.

I think you’re right. At games you don’t have the benefit of replay so refereeing decisions are harder to take a view on because you’re further away. That’s why (and often I do if the ref has been awful like Oliver the other week) I come on here after the game and check out what people think.

As for watching games, I find it so much more stressful watching us on tv. I almost don’t like it at all. It’s a complete contrast to being at the games where I’m much calmer and enjoy the matches. On that basis I’m going to sit on the fence. Both experiences are completely different for me.

 

[easley91]

Neither is better, and neither is worse. You need both for different reasons. If there was a handball at the other end of the pitch you could not see that from your sit (especially at Wembley in the Gods), however on the box you get the benefit of replays to actually see what happened. Even then some decisions are 50/50 in opinion and perspective. Ironically via TV I have seen Poch and coaching staff now use live clips of the game in the dug out, that is enough proof to tell you that you need both to get a full appreciation of how the game pans out and what needs to be done to change it.

 

[teok]

Neither is better, and neither is worse. You need both for different reasons. If there was a handball at the other end of the pitch you could not see that from your sit (especially at Wembley in the Gods), however on the box you get the benefit of replays to actually see what happened. Even then some decisions are 50/50 in opinion and perspective. Ironically via TV I have seen Poch and coaching staff now use live clips of the game in the dug out, that is enough proof to tell you that you need both to get a full appreciation of how the game pans out and what needs to be done to change it.

I used to imagine that watching football on tv now you would be able to flip between different cameras/views. I'd love to be able to have a pulled out camera from above showing how the players are set up alongside the normal zoomed in action one.

 

[Metalhead]

Honestly think the people that post most frequently in match threads would be better off actually watching the game and keeping their terribly important opinions to themselves until at the very least the match has fucking finished but preferably after a few hours when they've calmed down a bit.
It's great reading the often overly pessimistic, knee-jerky shite minute by minute. Its like having a more opinionated BBC Live text if the guy in charge of updates was mentally unstable.

IMO being there would give a better understanding of the game, seeing the whole pitch away from camera views would personally give me a better feel of what's happening.

You're right btw, Aurier was fucking shite apart from one cross.

Well put with one slight fix.