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Tim Sherwood: Focus on Daniel Levy after latest Spurs sacking

gusrowe

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I am sure that Levy has always had the best intentions for the club but now the buck must surely rest at his feet.

Read the full article at BBC
 

Moorechild

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Got to say. Love the interview on that page. Tim talks sense. Wish him well and thank him for being honest and blooding some good kids.
 

Misfit

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Hahahahahaaaaaaa. Wow, gotta give Tim credit here. Conehead will not be amused at the obvious being pointed out by the very guy he got in to deflect attention and blame from himself.
 

greywizard2020

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I certainly hope Sherwood gets it right somewhere else. Even though he did sometimes come across as a bit of a cock, we ought to be grateful of the work he did with the developmental squad, which certainly appears as if it could bear fruit with a number of youngsters pushing for first-team slots next season.

As i said before the preferred choice would be Roberto Martinez. He is a young coach, which means a legacy is something he can create; he has the experience of our leagues; he encourages the academy lads to come through; he has worked incredibly well with limited resources; most importantly he plays really good football. If we can't get him, then Pochettino would be my 2nd choice because he possesses the above criteria, however he's just a few shades lighter than Martinez. It is important to add that he has had decent money to spend on his Saints squad, but that shouldn't detract from the great work he's done with the Saints team. Our third choice is Frank De Boer, but because of his obvious lack of experience in the English leagues means he's going to be a bit of a wild-card, which i don't think Levy afford to get wrong.

By no means do i think he should play safe, but i feel that a man acclimatized to our league would be more likely to affect a more rapid & positive outcome, as opposed to almost writing off a whole season as part of the manager's learning curve.
 
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Pimp_Spur

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The article is spot on in terms of the spotlight being on levy. Too many poor decisions when recruiting previous managers has led to this constant change at the club. He now needs to pick a man and give him the tools and the chance to prove himself and not get trigger happy at the first available opportunity
 

UncleBuck

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The article is spot on in terms of the spotlight being on levy. Too many poor decisions when recruiting previous managers has led to this constant change at the club. He now needs to pick a man and give him the tools and the chance to prove himself and not get trigger happy at the first available opportunity
And hope the supporters don't end up influencing DL by throwing their toys out of their prams and demanding a new manager at Christmas because we aren't top of the table....
 

bigspurs

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And hope the supporters don't end up influencing DL by throwing their toys out of their prams and demanding a new manager at Christmas because we aren't top of the table....

I know where you're coming from here, but if we're playing wank football and losing 5-0 at home, I'll be pretty pissed off!! Just want a bit of stability and less of the humiliation thanks.
 

slartibartfast

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I know where you're coming from here, but if we're playing wank football and losing 5-0 at home, I'll be pretty pissed off!! Just want a bit of stability and less of the humiliation thanks.
Agree. Id like to stop seeing wingers in cm. Rw on Lw n vice versa. Cm on wings. Rbs at Lb n vice versa. Cbs at Fb n vice versa. Cats and dogs living together. And just start seeing a team selection that makes some kind of sense ie not playing away to Liverpool with no Dcm but playing one at home against the mighty Villa. That is illogical Captain. And maybe, stretching I know, seeing a regular core of the same team every week instead of never having any idea whos coming out the hat.
Back to the thread lol, I think this is a quality comment from Sherwood and very clever. Nasty swipe right up my street lol.
 

jolsnogross

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By sacking Harry after he finished fourth, Levy basically set the criteria for Spurs managers: you must finish 4th or better by playing good Spurs-style football. I think the pressure on this next appointment working out will be pretty intense. And some of that is Levy's own making. His statements, using the terms "head coach" and 'winning some matches but not in the style we're accustomed to' point to his criteria for the new man. And the fans obsession with interviews and how the manager comes across seems to also be a baffling component of Levy's thinking.

So AVB was given a little lee-way after only finishing fifth, but lost that lee-way with turgid footy the season after. Sherwood had us playing more watchable footy with decent results, but ultimately fell short of the 4th place criterion and sin't liked for being an honest and outspoken interviewee.

The suggestion that the new man will be given lots of time to finish 6th or 7th seems unrealistic. Levy has chosen to back his DoF structure; he and Baldini will appoint a new head-coach. And that head-coach will be sacked if he doesn't attain Harry's level of performance and a 4th place finish. Great if it works. If it doesn't, then it's a question of whether Levy will again dismantle the DoF structure, or just replace Baldini and the coach.

If 5th/6th is our glass ceiling, we'll continue to have a 9 manager in 13 years rate of replacement.
 

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Harry had one thing in his favour, he had Bale, as did AVB when we loved him and the football we were playing under him.. Levy's failure to recognise this is disturbing. Because we no longer have a world class power house game winner in the team he has to give the new guy time and backing. Who ever comes in should be the man Levy believes has the qualities that will bring us success not immediate success, it takes time to build a squad that can compete with the top four regularly. Even though the new guys have got a season under their belt, well most of em, it will still take time for the new manager to asses them all. God it does my head in going back to square one all the time and if its the same thing in 2 years time i'll be the first one holding up the levy please sell up banner.
 

striebs

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Hahahahahaaaaaaa. Wow, gotta give Tim credit here. Conehead will not be amused at the obvious being pointed out by the very guy he got in to deflect attention and blame from himself.

I wonder whether Levy realises how ridiculous he has made himself look .

One of the commenters on the BBC site made the point that Tim did sterling work with the youth setup and has now left the club completely .

We had a chance of continuity for the younger players and someone who really knew the club from top to bottom but no , not a big enough name for Spurs .
 

doom

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these days it seems you don't need management continuity - who currently has lasted more than 2 seasons except Wenger, Pardew..
I hope Levy will await on Manu's appointment before deciding. Then I expect an approach for Martinez.
 

Gaz_Gammon

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Eventually, as the list of those who have been tried and moved on lengthens, the question will be asked more often - is Daniel Levy actually the problem at Tottenham Hotspur?

Eleven years, nine managers, one trophy. Go figure.
 

TimJ

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I would like Martinez, but you have to ask yourself whether he would want to come to Tottenham where the clock starts ticking as soon as the manager puts pen to paper.

On the plus side, we have a fantastic squad with a sprinkling of world class players. I don't agree with some of the other posts saying we are behind Liverpool, Arsenal and the rest. We need to strenghten the defence (especially left back) and another striker, but other than that, we have some super players. A decent manager should have us right up there. We beat most teams relatively easily because we just had better players than them and, in my view, lost out to the top teams mainly due to manageral naivety (picking the wrong team and employing the wrong tactics) and unlucky decisions.

Let's not forget at the beginning of the season, even without Bale, most of the posts on this sight were hoping top four minimum, with others dreaming of more.

Also, Liverpool and Everton will have to contend with Europe as well next season, although Man Yoo will have an easier ride. Man City should be affected by the Financial Fair Play restrictions and the Chavs do not seem to have too much wiggle room there either.

I see no reason why we should not be targeting top four again.
 

StauntonSpur

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I would like to thank Tim for his tenure, he was really on a hiding to nothing. If nothing else he did make Tottenham interesting again with his brand of football and interviews. Unlike AVB who was a cure for insomnia !
And let's get one thing straight. If it wasn't for Bale we would not have had our record points season, Harry did not have that luxury although Bale did progress during his time.
TS was more in the mold of Harry and that was no bad thing, because football should be more about entertainment than corporate speak and sterile tactics .
I would also like to say the stuff said by some on here about TS sickened me and totally lacked morale compass . It was more like trolling than actual any form of constructive comment. I hope in the future we can get back to discussions instead of feeble and moronic attempts at character assassination.
 

Gilzeanking

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OThe mistake made was to allow the idea that Tim was more than a caretaker to flourish . Tim certainly behaved like a name manager
starting a full career . Noone publically disagreed with him , he was allowed to bullshit about the signings he wanted for next year etc etc..... and so now we get this bollox about a 'Sacking' when Sherwood's caretaker role has simply ended .
Why are Utd able to do the simple thing of having a caretaker manager (Where's the Giggs Sacked headlines ?) and none of all this shite ? another Spurs media clanger..why ?
 
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bigspurs

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An easy way to look at Levy is to see him as a typical low profile mob boss. You need to keep making him money and show him respect. However if you show signs of incompetence, disrespect him in public, get into trouble with the law, or publicly flirt with another outfit - YOU ARE GONNA GET WHACKED!! ;)
 

DreadySpur

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these days it seems you don't need management continuity - who currently has lasted more than 2 seasons except Wenger, Pardew..
I hope Levy will await on Manu's appointment before deciding. Then I expect an approach for Martinez.

Why wait on Man Utd's appointment. If Martinez is 1st choice, we should go for him, as Man Utd would not be after him anyway. However, Martinez is a loyal man who values having a good relationship with his manager, so I would be very surprised if he left Everton after one season, to risk being sacked in a year by Levy.
 

DreadySpur

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OThe mistake made was to allow the idea that Tim was more than a caretaker to flourish . Tim certainly behaved like a name manager
starting a full career . Noone publically disagreed with him , he was allowed to bullshit about the signings he wanted for next year etc etc..... and so now we get this bollox about a 'Sacking' when Sherwood's caretaker role has simply ended .
Why are Utd able to do the simple thing of having a caretaker manager (Where's the Giggs Sacked headlines ?) and none of all this shite ? another Spurs media clanger..why ?

After a good beginning the media started building Tim up and giving him belief that he could do the job on a permanent basis. Tim pushed for the job and Levy did give him a permanent role straight away. Whichever way you look at it Levy created the situation, as he should have said to Tim "yes you have made a good start, but let's wait until the end of the season to see how things pan out and then we can make a decision"........which would have led to weekly media grillings for Sherwood as to whether he thought he had done enough to deserve the job full-time (like Neil Adams and Ryan Giggs had to deal with....)
 

Japhet

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I wonder whether Levy realises how ridiculous he has made himself look .

One of the commenters on the BBC site made the point that Tim did sterling work with the youth setup and has now left the club completely .

We had a chance of continuity for the younger players and someone who really knew the club from top to bottom but no , not a big enough name for Spurs .


It was Sherwood who said he wouldn't go back to being 2nd in Command or whatever. If he hadn't been so full of himself (i.e. demanding full control from top to bottom) he might still be here, but he closed that door himself. Pity, because I think development is where he belongs.
 
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