Tim Sherwood sacked as Tottenham manager

Joined
Jul 13, 2012
Messages
229
#81
Sorry but that is just revisionist .

Jol was being undermined by the board .

Redknapp had said he wanted the England job years before he joined Spurs .

It's amazing how some fans always find a way to justify Levy's actions .
Capello left we were 13 points clear of Arsenal in 3rd. The England job was vacant Redknapp was in the papers every 5 minutes and we went on
[quote="Fruendsreunited, post: 4021254, member: 22774"
As for the comments about sacking another manager, he was never a permanent hire. Why on earth would you pin all your hopes on a manager without even an FA Coaching badge. You could imagine him slagging AVB off all season, and then putting himself forward after he was sacked. Levy must have been rubbing his hands together ... Tim hung himself and now he's gone.

Thank fuck for that

Liverpool and Arsenal did for many a year, Celtic too. Those damn badges just must be worth there weight in gold.

I think you will find that Moyes, Hodgeson, Ramos, Gross, and many more "managers" had those elusive badges that you talk of.
Are you talking about 20 years ago ? As Arsene Wenger has one. ... I think the game has moved on a few years since then.

I think you'll find nearly EVERY manager has one, and most people who have, or want to work in the football industry. I have friends who coach under 10's who have one ..... but not Super Tim.. he knows it all already!
 

Dinghy

Well-Known Member
Joined
Jun 22, 2005
Messages
4,971
#82
Capello left we were 13 points clear of Arsenal in 3rd. The England job was vacant Redknapp was in the papers every 5 minutes and we went on


Are you talking about 20 years ago ? As Arsene Wenger has one. ... I think the game has moved on a few years since then.

I think you'll find nearly EVERY manager has one, and most people who have, or want to work in the football industry. I have friends who coach under 10's who have one ..... but not Super Tim.. he knows it all already!
You have friends who coach under 10's with a FIFA pro licence?
 

Gaz_Gammon

Well-Known Member
Joined
Apr 16, 2005
Messages
15,853
#83
I think you'll find nearly EVERY manager has one, and most people who have, or want to work in the football industry. I have friends who coach under 10's who have one ..... but not Super Tim.. he knows it all already!

And most who have one also have a P45 to go along with it.

Coaching Badges are so overrated. I have a driving licence so perhaps i should go get a job with Lewis Hamilton.
 

GeneralBurk

Active Member
Joined
Apr 26, 2005
Messages
887
#84
You're also missing the injuries and the fact that Levy didn't get us a much needed striker in January '13.
He got one in August and promptly put Adebayor in with the kids. Levy didn't strengthen the year we qualified for the ECL either. Injuries don't excuse the ineffective football for me. Coupled with the fact that the feeling that the we felt were in the ascendancy and could usurp Arsenal in the long term.

I have far more sympathy with AVB/Sherwood this season having lost a truly world class talent and trying to pull together a team while integrating 7 new signings.
 

fedupyid

Active Member
Joined
Dec 2, 2004
Messages
629
#85
Coaching badges are required to be a manager of a professional football club if you want to go into coaching you go out and get one after you retire from professional football. Tim Sherwood retired 10 years ago and never bothered to get one show show serious he was about wanting to be a manager. The fact is most the clas of 92 at Man Utd got them while they were still full time pros and Friedel got his first stages while at Spurs. So the conclusion I come to is Tim is lazy and will take any short-cut possible because he was at Spurs for 5 years and still did not bother together them, that is my problem with Tim not having a coaching badge.
 

Dinghy

Well-Known Member
Joined
Jun 22, 2005
Messages
4,971
#86
Coaching badges are required to be a manager of a professional football club if you want to go into coaching you go out and get one after you retire from professional football. Tim Sherwood retired 10 years ago and never bothered to get one show show serious he was about wanting to be a manager. The fact is most the class of 92 at Man Utd got them while they were still full time pros and Friedel got his first stages while at Spurs. So the conclusion I come to is Tim is lazy and will take any short-cut possible because he was at Spurs for 5 years and still did not bother together them, that is my problem with Tim not having a coaching badge.
He has bothered to get one... He just doesn't have the top one (yet)
 

Sandro

Well-Known Member
Joined
Jul 5, 2013
Messages
1,085
#87
This is the weird thing for me . The 18 months contract was neither a full manager contract nor a clear caretaker deal . Kudos to Tim for having the chutzpah to argue he should get 18 months without having any coaching badges.....but strange Levy should agree .

Very strange ,unless Danny thought Tim really was the second coming . Somehow Sherwood had some leverage to secure a remarkable deal when we could have easily got others as plain caretakers . Levy gives him a year's wages for nothing just to caretaker us 6 months...DL gone all charitable suddenly ?!

Anyway , having got this unlikely deal , Tim has been larging it ever since . This has played against him with the fans , antagonising many with his delusions , while scaring others that he really was going to be around for 18 months .

I'm sure we generally wish him well , but for me odd thing about his time as our 'statistically best ever manager' was how he got the 18 month deal in the first place .
Dim may have had the chutzpah to demand a deal from baldie, or perhaps he had some compromising Intel that had Danny boy by his beitzim, no?
Whatever it is, I am glad that meshugganah putz has bailed.
Bon Voyage, shlemazel. :blackeye:
 

slartibartfast

Grunge baby forever
Joined
Oct 21, 2012
Messages
5,640
#90
AVB managed to get the top one at the age of 18 and Tim had no coaching badges.
Not being funny but has AVB managing to get one at 18 got to do with anything?
Are you saying TS should have because AVB managed it??
TS was a bit busy at 18 with, oh I dont know, training to be a footballer.
And AVB at 18 was looking to go into coaching so would obviously take his badges asap.
Shit did I just defend TS lol.
Apologies if I've misunderstood your post.
 

ralvy

Active Member
Joined
Jun 26, 2012
Messages
815
#91
We finished 5th despite his negative brand of football. Bale single-handedly dragged the team to a much higher league position then we merited.

However we were never truly challenging the top 4. With 33 points at half way we improved in the 2nd half but we were only ever part of the chasing pack.

Whereas the previous season we were 3rd for the majority before the distractions dropped us to 4th and then the worst team ever managed to win the ECL bumping us into the Europa League.

He was a poor man manager for us and he was unable to adapt his game-plan. I will not miss him. He sucked the optimism and hope out of our game.

Unfortunately for TS he was always going to be an interim manager while we sought something shiny and new from abroad.
So you're forgetting the main reason we weren't top four that season was because Arsenal somehow managed to end the season in such a superb and strong form (due to a combination of luck, questionable referee decisions and, lets face it, their own merits)? We actually were top four for quite a while last season, but somehow you have chosen to forget about that to pursue your own agenda. You also have decided to forget our really strong form between early December and tFebruary/ March (I don't remember exactly the date in which it ended, I think it was that match at Anfield), in which it wasn't due to Bale us wining games.

Mate, I don't care if you hate AVB or anything, but that doesn't mean you get to make up shit. We finished the season 1 point away from a top four finish, it doesn't matter if most of that was due to Bale baling us out or whatever. The point is that you saying we were never a threat for top four is, quite simply, BS, specially taking into consideration how many points we were able to take away from the top four teams (11 our of 24 I think).
 

GeneralBurk

Active Member
Joined
Apr 26, 2005
Messages
887
#92
It does matter if we are a one man team when you lose that one man. The result was a statisticians dream of passing and possession however there just wasn't any real threat.

As for an agenda this is simply a board allowing people to express their opinions.

Under AVB the football lacked potency and it was left to Bale time and again to carry the team.

However I thought AVB integrated Lloris into the team expertly in a difficult situation when Friedel didn't deserve to be dropped.

Levy operates a mean business model but unfortunately his appointments have in the main been bang average.

I've never understood some people's attitude to Redknapp. He delivered the most exciting and successful period of football since Pleat's and Venables' time. Even distracted he delivered 4th.

Overall for me we have regressed during AVB's time and the next appointment will be critical. I'd hope for Martinez by that's unlikely.

Hopefully next season with some stability on the playing staff we will be able integrate the players into a cohesive system with 3rd and 4th up for grabs.
 
Joined
Jul 13, 2012
Messages
229
#93
And most who have one also have a P45 to go along with it.

Coaching Badges are so overrated. I have a driving licence so perhaps i should go get a job with Lewis Hamilton.
Oh please tell us about your knowledge of coaching badges oh wise one...

But if you didn't have a driving licence, you definitely couldn't!
 

slartibartfast

Grunge baby forever
Joined
Oct 21, 2012
Messages
5,640
#94
So you're forgetting the main reason we weren't top four that season was because Arsenal somehow managed to end the season in such a superb and strong form (due to a combination of luck, questionable referee decisions and, lets face it, their own merits)? We actually were top four for quite a while last season, but somehow you have chosen to forget about that to pursue your own agenda. You also have decided to forget our really strong form between early December and tFebruary/ March (I don't remember exactly the date in which it ended, I think it was that match at Anfield), in which it wasn't due to Bale us wining games.

Mate, I don't care if you hate AVB or anything, but that doesn't mean you get to make up shit. We finished the season 1 point away from a top four finish, it doesn't matter if most of that was due to Bale baling us out or whatever. The point is that you saying we were never a threat for top four is, quite simply, BS, specially taking into consideration how many points we were able to take away from the top four teams (11 our of 24 I think).
The hows wheres and whys dont matter a jot. We were top four under Redknapp.We finished 5th and played shit football under Avb and continued to regress into the following season.
Dats da facts Sir.:stop: