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Time for the King to abdicate his crown?

Disconosebleed

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As mentioned in my earlier column, I've had an article published on Football365, following on from a post I made on here.



Time for the king to abdicate his crown?


With Tottenham as deep in crisis as is possible after six Premier League matches, everyone has their own theory as to what's going wrong at White Hart Lane - from Ramos' tactical blunders to Daniel Levy's 'business first, football second' transfer policy via the underperformance of players and backroom staff alike.

One issue, however, has remained untouched in the opening weeks of the season. With much made of Ramos' chopping and changing of the midfield - David Bentley has already taken time off from designing his latest haircut to complain about being played on the left, while Didier Zokora has added right back to his checklist of positions in which he can perform inadequately - the defence has been altered just as regularly, for one major reason - Ledley King. And yet the situation of club captain and stalwart King has rolled on with little mention.

There is no doubt that King is an excellent player. His no-nonsense defending coupled with technical qualities and a lead-by-example style of captaincy have already guaranteed him a place in Tottenham's history. A succession of England managers have cast him as a squad regular whenever fit, yet he has amassed only 19 caps since debuting against Italy 2002. And therein lies the problem - the man simply cannot stay fit.

King's injury problems over the past few years are well-documented, but have always been treated by fans and staff alike with a positive outlook - however long he was out for, eventually he would return to full fitness. Recent weeks, however, have suggested that this is simply not the case - King's knee trouble deigns that he is unable to play two games in any given week, let alone two or three a week consistently over a full season, as confirmed by assistant manager Gus Poyet.

Aston Villa's roaring start to the season has shown the impact a settled starting eleven can have, the Midlands club looking the most capable of challenging the so-called 'big four' with a consistent line-up, yet Spurs have yet to field the same back line in successive matches this season. This constant state of change leaves Spurs in permanent limbo - should Levy sanction the purchase of a multi-million pound centre back and hope he accepts being out of the side when King is fit, or stick with what he has and hope that King's regular absences aren't felt too strongly - with amiable but mediocre stand-in Michael Dawson liable to err at some point in every game.

As harsh as it may seem, the way forward may be to eliminate Ledley King from the equation - not to sell him (though Newcastle would presumably pay upwards of the going rate for a 20-game-a-season centre back), but demote him to squad player rather than first-choice. Currently, King's injury status prevents Tottenham from ever having a settled back four, crucial to any team's chances. Would it not be preferable to have him on the bench, a high-class replacement to stand in whenever Woodgate or Corluka (or a January signing) need a rest, playing 90 minutes and then dropping out of the team again?

Few teams could afford such a luxury but, if the situation was managed correctly, Tottenham might just find that such a bold move might be the beginning of an upturn in fortune. All they'd need then is someone to teach Bentley how to cross, Zokora how to tackle and Jenas how to exist on a pitch in anything other than the literal, physical sense, and they might have a team capable of achieving something.




http://football365.com/story/0,17033,13320_4236052,00.html

That's the article on Football365 with some editing. If anyone enjoys the article PLEASE give positive feedback at the bottom, as they've told me that if it's well-received they will look to give me more work in the future - wouldn't it be nice to have some pro-Spurs articles on commercial websites!

Cheers,

Simon.
 

JoeT

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Makes sense to me....King as a very, very capable bench player. My only question would be what about his salary; has he given so much yeomen service to the club to warrant staying at the same level? (My feeling here is, yes if we can afford to do it.)
 

DHMadboy

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fully agree, though due to corluka being cup tied, we would again keep changing, unless, and i know it wouldn't be to popular, we used dawson as first choice, i do believe he played his best football when paired consistently with king, and woodgate has had his poor moments this season, and i believe its due to changing who he's paired with.
so should we just stick with

Gomes
Gunter Woodgate Dawson Bale

and keep playing them whatever the result until they come good, and learn how to play with each other?
 

Greavesy

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I don't agree with this at all.

Anyone who's played a team sport to a relatively high level would know that having your best / most respected / inluential players in the game is a real boost to the team as a whole. You might have a valid point if King was waaaaaay off the pace, but he still deserves his place on merit. It wouldn't make any sense for him to greatly outshine Dawson and Corluka in training but then have to sit on the bench because he can't play two games in a week.

Maybe I'm missing something here, but seems like it's a no-brainer he should play when fit :shrug:

We changed SEVEN players from the Pompey to Wisla games. Only one of those was King. Our defence hasn't been that great but it's scoring goals that has been a real problem. You would've thought keeping a settled midfield and attack would help with that, but we have a cup tied striker, a few injuries and a load of midfielders of similar ability who aren't playing well, so Ramos is struggling to find a settled team.
 

Jenko

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King should be 1st choice for all uefa games and we'll see after that. Corluka should be 1st choice for all prem games but then Daws will still have to come in to rest Woody from time to time and god forbid anyone gets injured cos I have zero faith in Daws for some time now....
 

THX2208

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I think King will surprise a lot of people and play against Hull on Sunday.
 

KingKeano

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If King is fit he plays if not we have purchased a multi - tasker in corluka RB - CB but i do believe that as king is not now a regular that Woody should now be (C)
 

glenda

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love the guy,but he had a shocker today,when u done play a good run of games it will affect u.but still the defending was murder today!!!
 

vietnam1973

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woodgate should be capo, we need consistency and (j)anus is no where near good enough to be our captain.....oh and by the way play MODRIC hes class!
 

Boaman

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Even last season King was our best player. He should play whenever available. I understand it's disruptive to keep changing players but football nowadays (sorry for the cliche) is about having a good squad and if Kings plays at a 1/2 ratio he still could player 25+ games and that's more than enough to be influential

agree with the above that Woodgate should be vice captain, I don't think I've seen him play a bad game for us
 

rsmith

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Nov 8, 2006
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Totally agree with the op. Ledders is the uber-yid and we love him for it. In his cameo appearances last season, he brought a calm confidence to the back line and was worth the starting place. Sadly this season he looks out of it. Off the pace and out of position.
 

onthetwo

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Starting back for in the league should be;-

Hutton woody corky bale

With gunter filling in for hutton until he gets fit. Corky needs time to settle in alongside woody until we find out how many games ledley can play but uefa situation (cup-tied players) actually isn't a bad one in terms of helping ledley get some fitness back. If and when ledley is fit enough to play a few more games in the league or other cups I'd be inclined to play him in the zokora position in front of the back 4.

Team for sunday imo should be:-

Gomes
Gunter corky woody bale
Lennon jj zoko giovanni
Modric pav
 

Boony

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I don't agree with this at all.

Anyone who's played a team sport to a relatively high level would know that having your best / most respected / inluential players in the game is a real boost to the team as a whole. You might have a valid point if King was waaaaaay off the pace, but he still deserves his place on merit. It wouldn't make any sense for him to greatly outshine Dawson and Corluka in training but then have to sit on the bench because he can't play two games in a week.

Maybe I'm missing something here, but seems like it's a no-brainer he should play when fit :shrug:

We changed SEVEN players from the Pompey to Wisla games. Only one of those was King. Our defence hasn't been that great but it's scoring goals that has been a real problem. You would've thought keeping a settled midfield and attack would help with that, but we have a cup tied striker, a few injuries and a load of midfielders of similar ability who aren't playing well, so Ramos is struggling to find a settled team.

Totally agree, I have played a half decent standard, also as a centre back. The role does have a wide variety of tasks and if you play with someone long enough (in training etc) you learn how they play and adapt accordingly. King and Woodgate should play if fit and up to scratch with Corluka competing against King and Hutton for the other roles. I like Corluka very much, we could do with a git more of a pacey physical centre back instead of Dawson, who im not overconvinced of in his all round game.
 

WhiteHeartLowe

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Of course King has to play when/if he is fit. However, I think the time has come for him to give up the captains armband. IMO a teams captain should be playing just about every game so the rest of the team can always look to him for leadership on the pitch. Having a deputy captain is not as good.
 

ultimateloner

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I think King is irrelevant to our team's performance. We are defending quite well - the trouble now is in attack.

We are not moving the ball around fast enough to implement Ramos's vision. This needs to be addressed.
 

Azrael

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Its definately time to give up the band.

To be honest I never quite understood how he reached god level in the first place. I mean anyone who thinks that its through loyalty should probably think to themselves taht if he hadn't had the injury record that he has over the years he probably would have been snapped up by a CL team a long time ago. What else has he done to warrant such adulation? Get pissed in Faces?
 

Pat Rice Spurs fan

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Well, nobody's said it for a while so.....
What about a settled back four of Hutton, Corluka, Woodgate & Bale with King helping out the struggling midfield?
I bet he'd make a great pairing with Modric and leave us enough spare players to have two up front.
 
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