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michaelden

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Tottenham midfielder Andros Townsend, 22, has been marked out by Germany as England's danger man ahead of the friendly, with Low describing England's wide players as "very impressive".

Full story: Sun (Subscription)

But former Germany and Liverpool midfielder Dietmar Hamann has mocked the way Townsend has emerged from relative obscurity to become England's new "saviour".

Full story: Daily Express
 

michaelden

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Hamann has it right, Andros is over-hyped here by the press and a lot on this board. He is no Draxler, Reus, Kroos, Shurrle, etc... Hell, he isn't even as effective as Lamela.

Stop being blinded by the runs nowhere and the shots over the bar. Enthusiasm is great, but brains is better
 

eddiebailey

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Tottenham midfielder Andros Townsend, 22, has been marked out by Germany as England's danger man ahead of the friendly, with Low describing England's wide players as "very impressive".

Full story: Sun (Subscription)

But former Germany and Liverpool midfielder Dietmar Hamann has mocked the way Townsend has emerged from relative obscurity to become England's new "saviour".

Full story: Daily Express

The comments on the article are more interesting than the article itself.
 

michaelden

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http://www.goal.com/en/news/1717/ed...send-is-no-longer-justifying-his?ICID=HP_FT_4

Billed as one of England's form players, the winger has produced just one goal and no assists in the Premier League and has struggled to connect with striker Roberto Soldado


ANALYSIS
By Ewan Roberts

From perennial loanee to England's next great hope, the past two months have seen Andros Townsend's reputation rise at a pace almost as frighteningly rapid as he is. Singled out by Germany boss Joachim Low as a "dynamic" threat before Tuesday night's encounter at Wembley, the 22-year-old was, yet again, the brightest player for the home side, reinforcing his status as one of the country's most dangerous players.

The Tottenham academy product is almost uniquely direct, driving forward with a rare and absorbing fearlessness – his 55 successful dribbles is a division high – while his every touch is accompanied by the collective thwacking of 36,000 seats flipping back as the White Hart Lane crowd, otherwise starved of tantalising football this season, rise to their feet in feverish excitement and expectation.

Yet, for all his intent and raw energy, Townsend has just one goal – which was intended as a cross – and no assists in the Premier League this season. His growing repute, particularly on the international stage, has added further growl to a bark that is rather more fearsome than the bite, and he has become worryingly adept at looking like a threat without ever actually being one.

FLATTERING TO DECEIVE
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TOWNSEND'S LEAGUE SEASON SO FAR
MINUTES PLAYED|GOALS|ASSISTS|SHOTS|SHOT ACCURACY|AVERAGE SHOT DISTANCE|CONVERSION RATE|CHANCES CREATED
843 | 1 | 0 | 45 | 33% | 26yds | 3.4% | 19
THROUGH-BALLS|CROSS SUCCESS|SUCCESSFUL DRIBBLES|TAKE-ON SUCCESS

1 | 20.4% | 55 | 66%

Townsend's limp goal tally, though, is not for the want of trying. No player in the Premier League has attempted more shots on goal than the winger's 45 – that's one every 18.7 minutes he has been on the pitch.

Astonishingly, 41 of those efforts have been taken from outside the box (or 91 per cent, way above Spurs' average of 56% which is already significantly higher than other top-four rivals), 15 have been blocked (which is another league high), just 33% have been on target, and he boasts a head-scratching average shot distance of 26 yards.

While the best players make the right decisions most often, Townsend, acutely aware of the need to score goals and make himself "undroppable", routinely and frustratingly takes the wrong option. Better placed team-mates are ignored in favour of hopeful shots from range that rarely trouble the goalkeeper, assuming they even beat the first man. If his shooting stats merely hint at a player seeking individual accolades, his conversion rate of just 3.4% undoubtedly confirms him as a singularly wasteful player.

Though he has failed to record an assist in 26 of his 27 Premier League career appearances, Townsend has created 19 chances for his team-mates this term, the most of any Spurs player – even if his only tangible contribution remains the penalty he won against Swansea. Somewhat symptomatic of the problems Spurs face on a wider scale, only four of those 19 chances have been inside the box, and only three have been clear-cut.

Further to that, Townsend has created just two chances for the much-maligned Roberto Soldado (while attempting 73% more shots), yet the Spaniard has created seven chances for Townsend and provided an assist.

SHOOT ON SIGHT
THE PREMIER LEAGUE'S TOP SHOOTERS

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ANDROS TOWNSEND 454.5 PG 1 GOAL
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OLIVIER GIROUD 403.6 PG 5 GLS
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DANIEL STURRIDGE 393.5 PG 8 GLS
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SERGIO AGUERO 373.7 PG 8 GLS
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LUIS SUAREZ 366 PG 8 GLS

In none of the 10 league games in which both players have featured has Soldado taken more shots than Townsend, while in 50% of matches the England wideman has had at least twice as many attempts as the former Valencia hotshot (peaking at nine against Norwich, a match in which Soldado had just three efforts).

At the Mestalla, Soldado created a goalscoring opportunity every 81 minutes; at Spurs, he has done so every 51 minutes (while averaging fewer shots now too). Andre Villas-Boas spoke of needing a player with more predatory instincts prior to Soldado's signing, yet the 28-year-old's poaching skills are being hampered by the demands placed on him to link play and facilitate the players that ought to be supplying him.

It's a curious reversal of roles, and a scandalous misuse of talent – imagine if Chris Tucker had been cast as the martial arts master and by-the-book Hong Kong detective in Rush Hour opposite Jackie Chan's fast-talking, wise-cracking Los Angeles cop; Townsend is essentially asking Soldado to speak Cantonese.

But Townsend is not the only player to frustrate this season, or fail to link up with Soldado. Icelander Gylfi Sigurdsson is often just as disruptive to his Spurs team-mates, and specifically the side's grounded Spanish focal point, as his country's ash cloud was to the rest of Europe.


Criminally, Sigurdsson has not created a single chance for Soldado in open play. The former Hoffenheim midfielder has serviced the Spaniard just once in total, from a free-kick against Crystal Palace on the opening day of the season. If there is one silver lining it is that, unlike Townsend, Sigurdsson is a legitimate goal threat – a valuable commodity in a side that has struggled in that respect. Of midfielders, only Oscar, Eden Hazard, Yaya Toure and Aaron Ramsey have scored more goals in the Premier League this term.

Inverted wingers aren't inherently a problem, especially with the pace of Kyle Walker and, when fit, Danny Rose overlapping from deep, but having two largely self-serving players in the key positions to supply Soldado is an issue. In fact, Walker has created more chances for the Spaniard than any other Spurs player (with five), while the right-back and fellow full-back Rose, as a duo, have created a chance for the €30 million frontman every 189 minutes.

Townsend and Sigurdsson, meanwhile, have done so only every 471 minutes. Against Newcastle, a match which saw Tim Krul make 14 saves as Spurs peppered the Dutchman's goal, the two wingers failed to play a single successful pass to Soldado.

There are certainly alternatives to Townsend for Villas-Boas to think about exploring. Aaron Lennon led the club's assists charts with seven last season, and brings both natural width and the once uncapitalised cut-backs that Soldado would surely devour. Meanwhile, record-signing Erik Lamela, though less vivacious and gung-ho than Townsend, offers greater cunning and vision for the rest of the Spurs side to play off.

Townsend, bright though he may be, needs to find greater efficiency and clinicalness. At present he is a top-shelf, weapons-grade firework with an inaudible bang, an armoured S.W.A.T van with only a PCSO inside ready to write up a fixed penalty notice. He needs to do more without doing too much, and if he cannot convert his exuberance and direct running into something more concrete, then Tottenham simply cannot afford to carry him any longer.
 
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pablo73

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Yet, for all his intent and raw energy, Townsend has just one goal – which was intended as a cross – and no assists in the Premier League this season. His growing repute, particularly on the international stage, has added further growl to a bark that is rather more fearsome than the bite, and he has become worryingly adept at looking like a threat without ever actually being one.

I think this pretty much sums up where Townsend is at currently
 

only1waddle

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this bit is genius, laugh and bash fists onto table moment...

"It's a curious reversal of roles, and a scandalous misuse of talent – imagine if Chris Tucker had been cast as the martial arts master and by-the-book Hong Kong detective in Rush Hour opposite Jackie Chan's fast-talking, wise-cracking Los Angeles cop; Townsend is essentially asking Soldado to speak Cantonese."
 

Beni

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Like Bale, he should master being a winger, playing on his correct side (left) first, before being an inverted winger.

For all his ohhs and ahhs whenever he gets the ball, there is no end product YET. Yes he can beat a player, and gets us up the pitch, but at the same time he restricts our attacks.

The stats don't lie, he may have impressive dribbling, beating a man stats, but they're useless unless they're matched by the goals and assists stats which aren't at the minute.

We're struggling to create at the minute, and having a shoot on sight policy is only going to continue these creativity issues and also continue to isolate a world class centre forward, who we've been crying out for, which if this continues is going to be money wasted and considered a flop if we're not playing as a team to his strengths.

For me our strongest midfield trio behind Soldado is

Townsend Eriksen Lamela

Townsend needs to play on the left and get balls into the box, especially if we're playing without a natural left back.

Townsend can use his right and proved he can, so he still could come inside, but it will make him think more about shooting, instead of trying to shoot through players like he does on the right.
 
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michaelden

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Like Bale, he should master being a winger, playing on his correct side (left) first, before being an inverted winger.

For all his ohhs and ahhs whenever he gets the ball, there is no end product YET. Yes he can beat a player, and gets us up the pitch, but at the same time he restricts our attacks.

The stats don't lie, he may have impressive dribbling, beating a man stats, but they're useless unless they're matched by the goals and assists stats which aren't at the minute.

We're struggling to create at the minute, and having a shot on sight policy is only going to continue these creativity issues and also continue to isolate a world class centre forward, who we've been crying out for, which if this continues is going to be money wasted and considered a flop if we're not playing as a team to his strengths.
I agree with all that
For me our strongest midfield trio behind Soldado is

Townsend Eriksen Lamela

Townsend needs to play on the left and get balls into the box, especially if we're playing without a natural left back.

Townsend can use his right and proved he can, so he still could come inside, but it will make him think more about shooting instead trying to shoot through players like he does on the right.

And now you ruin in by including him in the team again?

I would have him on the bench. Our strongest front is: -

Soldado
Chadli Eriksen Lamela
Sandro Paulinho​

but with injuries etc...
Soldado
Holtby Dembele Lamela
Sandro Paulinho

And I think Capoue needs to play to help rest Paulinho
 

Beni

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I agree with all that


And now you ruin in by including him in the team again?

I would have him on the bench. Our strongest front is: -

Soldado
Chadli Eriksen Lamela
Sandro Paulinho​

but with injuries etc...
Soldado
Holtby Dembele Lamela
Sandro Paulinho

And I think Capoue needs to play to help rest Paulinho

I think time on the bench would be good for him.
But, as much as he is hindering our attacks at the minute, he is our greatest outlet as a counter attacking threat, with his pace to get us up the field quickly and turn defence into attack.
 

al_pacino

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Criticise if you want but please people stop getting hung up with assists. Penalty against Swansea(curiously not counted as an assist) Paulinho against both Villa and Chelsea, Eriksen last time out, Defoe should be attacking his cross against the Spammers. Just off the top of my head. More than a few very good chances that should've/could've resulted in a bit of "end product".
 

Luka Van der Bale

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Andros cuts in for England and did for QPR................he thinks he's better than he is.


Andros needs rewiring back to a proper winger. Andros is a good soul but he won't go to World Cup, Walnut will.
Because we all know it's one or t'other o_O
 

bubble07

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Lloris
Walker Kaboul Vertonghen Rose
Lamela Sandro Capoue Eriksen
Soldado Adebayor
 
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