Timo Werner

[Primativ]

I'd be very surprised if we get another top striker. I think we'll need to uncover a gem to cover for Kane. Not much chance a top player who wants regular first team football joins a club with Kane, Son, Alli, Lamela, Moura and Eriksen. I can see him joining a club who is in need of a first teamer. Not to say he wouldn't get in our team but you would prefer your chances at a club without that much competition like us.


You need the 2 sides to agree before the player and agent even get involved though. This sounds like a long way off for this window. Maybe one to revisit in the summer. He's worth trying for at least.

The thing is, we do have space for another top WF/SS/Striker like Werner.

Llorente is basically retiring and can't play every week anyway.
Son isn't a striker.
Lamela and Moura are upgradable.
Eriksen is likely leaving in the summer.

We absolutely need to sign another forward. We either be proactive and sign Werner or another striker now, which also helps us achieve our sporting goals this season, or we wait until Eriksen leaves for Madrid in the summer and every club knows we have loads of money, plus every other top club are scouring the market which makes it more competitive, plus we end up in the Europa league because we didn't sign a striker in January.

 

[spids]

The only way this will happen in this window is if Levy makes both club and player an offer they cannot refuse. So Levy probably needs to offer £50M+ and £200k per week for what he might consider a panic / short term signing. Firstly, we need to hope Poch wants / rates Werner. If so, Poch needs to convince Levy that this will improve us in the long term. This may not be as difficult some think as Levy really, really (really) wants/needs CL football next season. In the '2 from 8 season' Levy splashed the cash in the Jan window buying Defoe, Palacios, Chimbonda and Cudicini to ensure we stayed in the league. I think he will view falling out of the top 4 this year as much of a risk financially given the new stadium debts.

Assuming Levy does go for it, Poch then needs to convince the player that he will (a) not be a back up to Kane, (b) will regularly start up front in a team that will suit his strengths, and (c) that we will be competing for the CL and Premier League every year in our new stadium. Give Poch an hour with any player in our new stadium and another hour at our new training ground, and he could convince them to join us IMO.

Playing a 4-1-2-3 with a front three picked from Kane, Werner, Son, & Moura, with the two supporting AMs picked from Eriksen, Dele, & Lamela, would give us amazing strength in depth and take us to a new level IMO.

Formation:
4-1-2-3

GK: Lloris / Gazzaniga
RB: Aurier / Trippier / KWP
LB: Rose / Davies
CB: Toby / Verts / Sanchez / Foyth
DCM: Dier / Winks
AMs: Dele / Eriksen / Lamela
CFs: Kane / Werner / Son / Moura

Lloris
Aurier Alderweireld Vertonghen Rose
Dier
Eriksen Dele
Werner Kane Son

Subs: Gazzaniga, Trippier, Davies, Sanchez, Winks, Lamela, Moura​

 

[SargeantMeatCurtains]

How have people not noticed that Son has been playing up front next to Kane nearly all season? Lol.

 

[matty74]

The only way this will happen in this window is if Levy makes both club and player an offer they cannot refuse. So Levy probably needs to offer £50M+ and £200k per week for what he might consider a panic / short term signing. Firstly, we need to hope Poch wants / rates Werner. If so, Poch needs to convince Levy that this will improve us in the long term. This may not be as difficult some think as Levy really, really (really) wants/needs CL football next season. In the '2 from 8 season' Levy splashed the cash in the Jan window buying Defoe, Palacios, Chimbonda and Cudicini to ensure we stayed in the league. I think he will view falling out of the top 4 this year as much of a risk financially given the new stadium debts.

Assuming Levy does go for it, Poch then needs to convince the player that he will (a) not be a back up to Kane, (b) will regularly start up front in a team that will suit his strengths, and (c) that we will be competing for the CL and Premier League every year in our new stadium. Give Poch an hour with any player in our new stadium and another hour at our new training ground, and he could convince them to join us IMO.

Playing a 4-1-2-3 with a front three picked from Kane, Werner, Son, & Moura, with the two supporting AMs picked from Eriksen, Dele, & Lamela, would give us amazing strength in depth and take us to a new level IMO.

Formation:
4-1-2-3

GK: Lloris / Gazzaniga
RB: Aurier / Trippier / KWP
LB: Rose / Davies
CB: Toby / Verts / Sanchez / Foyth
DCM: Dier / Winks
AMs: Dele / Eriksen / Lamela
CFs: Bane / Werner / Son / Moura

Lloris
Aurier Alderweireld Vertonghen
Dier
Eriksen Dele
Werner Kane Son

Subs: Gazzaniga, Trippier, Davies, Sanchez, Winks, Lamela, Moura​

Think playing with 10 players will hinder us even more

 

[wrd]

How have people not noticed that Son has been playing up front next to Kane nearly all season? Lol.

His average position has been beyond Kane also, not to mention that Kane has so much more space everytime LLorente is chucked on but people can't seem to believe that Kane can still score the same volume of goals if he isn't in the front forward position on their little formation builder programs.

 

[YiddoTom90]

While a cm is a must, timo werner is a player we need currently, kane and son out for a month or more. This signing makes sense as he can play wide too. 50 to 60 mill is good value for a player not even in his prime years yet. His goalscoring ratio is good too.

 

[Riandor]

The only reason he doesn’t sign now is because 1. We were never interested, 2. Someone bigger than us goes for him or 3. RBL refuse any offers until the summer.

RBL will not wait. Werner has a contract offer that he can accept or reject, if it doesn't look like he will accept or stays undecided, they will accept offers (that meet their valuation). They cannot afford to wait too long (obviously they may wait until Summer if no offers of acceptable value materialise).

I think we "might" meet said evaluation, I just believe TW has little interest in joining a Prem team IF Bayern have given him any concrete suggestion that they want to sign him. Or certainly no Prem team where the main striker is always decided and not yet even at his prime. You are essentially signing up for a secondary role, wing forward opportunities and cups. I don't think Timo sees that as his best next move.

Alas I "could" see Liverpool being an option open to him IF Bayern don't make a move and IF Liverpool do, because I see Jürgen Klopp as a future manager for Germany and Liverpool do not have such a fixed striker, i.e. Firminio is replaceable/rotatable.

 

[doctor stefan Freud]

GK: Lloris / Gazzaniga
RB: Aurier / Trippier / KWP
LB: Rose / Davies
CB: Toby / Verts / Sanchez / Foyth
DCM: Dier / Winks
AMs: Dele / Eriksen / Lamela
CFs: Bane / Werner / Son / Moura

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[Clark28]

With our luck we’d sign him and he’d get a 3 week injury on debut

 

[Martin91]

How have people not noticed that Son has been playing up front next to Kane nearly all season? Lol.

also Moura before that as well

 

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[Japhet]

They are all over Higuain.

Sarri is but nobody else. Their Board want a long term signing. Watch them leap into action if they think we're anywhere near Werner.

 

[wrd]

Chelsea want a striker in a similar vein to Kane who can hold up the ball especially as they want somebody for Hazard to Bounce off of so we might be in luck that their eyes are looking elsewhere

 

[THFC_SWE]

You have to move fast to sign a talented player like this, especially when his contract is about to run out. And Levy doesn't do quick business. He must play his games first, moving the goal posts 300 times.

 

[DFF]

RBL will not wait. Werner has a contract offer that he can accept or reject, if it doesn't look like he will accept or stays undecided, they will accept offers (that meet their valuation). They cannot afford to wait too long (obviously they may wait until Summer if no offers of acceptable value materialise).

I think we "might" meet said evaluation, I just believe TW has little interest in joining a Prem team IF Bayern have given him any concrete suggestion that they want to sign him. Or certainly no Prem team where the main striker is always decided and not yet even at his prime. You are essentially signing up for a secondary role, wing forward opportunities and cups. I don't think Timo sees that as his best next move.

Alas I "could" see Liverpool being an option open to him IF Bayern don't make a move and IF Liverpool do, because I see Jürgen Klopp as a future manager for Germany and Liverpool do not have such a fixed striker, i.e. Firminio is replaceable/rotatable.

Well then, all roads lead to paying his agent enough to convince him. So Liverpool it is, then.

 

[dagraham]

The only reason he doesn’t sign now is because 1. We were never interested, 2. Someone bigger than us goes for him or 3. RBL refuse any offers until the summer.

Well actually there is a 4th option :

Rather than refuse any offers until the summer, RBL are willing to deal but at a premium to what it would cost in the summer and we’d have to move quick, maybe paying increase agents fees too etc.

At which point Levy starts to twitch and instructs one of his minions to corrupt THFC’s bank account with a mysterious virus.

 

[Japhet]

Well actually there is a 4th option :

Rather than refuse any offers until the summer, RBL are willing to deal but at a premium to what it would cost in the summer and we’d have to move quick, maybe paying increase agents fees too etc.

At which point Levy starts to twitch and instructs one of his minions to corrupt THFC’s bank account with a mysterious virus.

Stabbing the fax machine with a screwdriver usually works.

 

[DFF]

Stabbing the fax machine with a screwdriver usually works.

Having a perfectly working fax machine would also be ok, considering no other fucker uses them anymore.

 

[mil1lion]

The thing is, we do have space for another top WF/SS/Striker like Werner.

Llorente is basically retiring and can't play every week anyway.
Son isn't a striker.
Lamela and Moura are upgradable.
Eriksen is likely leaving in the summer.

We absolutely need to sign another forward. We either be proactive and sign Werner or another striker now, which also helps us achieve our sporting goals this season, or we wait until Eriksen leaves for Madrid in the summer and every club knows we have loads of money, plus every other top club are scouring the market which makes it more competitive, plus we end up in the Europa league because we didn't sign a striker in January.

Yes I'm not disputing that. We should be looking for a quality striker and Werner fits the bill. However I just dont see him coming to us for the reasons explained. Jan is also a very difficult time to sign a striker. Our strategy in the window is to improve on what we have. We can improve on Llorente for sure but it's also about who wants to sign given the competition. It's the reason Morata didn't want to join us.

My point really is that we could play any combination of Kane, Lamela, Moura, Son, Alli and Eriksen to fill what is likely to be up to 4 positions most of the time. So any additional signing in those positions will find it difficult to start games for us. That's why we have Llorente because he's ok with being on the bench at his age.

We'll do very well to upgrade on Lamela and Moura given they dont start every game. They're 2 of the best realistic options to compete with Alli and Son. I would only really look for better competition for Kane (Werner is certainly that but unlikely) and Eriksen (Grealish would have fit the bill and was more realistic). Of course if Eriksen leaves (not sure why you say it's likely) then we need to deal with it then.

 

[Japhet]

To be honest I'd be staggered if we signed somebody like Dolberg or Jan Feita Arp let alone Germany's international striker. I'm actually quite happy with Llorente if we change formation and get crosses into the box.