Tottenham fans Youtube Channel

[Lufti]

He's already said he's going to do it regardless so there's no point trying to convince him otherwise.

In order to get views put across calmly rather than getting hit with all the immediate post match emotions, you might want to consider filming a day or more after a game. Obviously you're not going to find fans just roaming round WHL days after a match so you might want to consider starting first with a few friends and then moving onto people you don't know personally, or maybe using skype calls or something.

I don't about the best way to go about it, but I'd say the worst way would be to use Arsenal Fan TV's format.

 

[topper]

If I get a pair of Spurs headphones and change my name to Claude Bludfamty can I have a regular slot?

 

[Woland]

Hello, fellow yido's,

My brother and I are currently in Discussion's with a production company to start a spurs fans youtube channel. we are both season ticket holders, have had it for 7 years and have been going to Spurs for over 15 years. This is something we are extremely passionate and excited about starting but we wanted to get some input from you guys before we started shooting content and making video's. we are well aware of what Arsenal Fan TV is and how fan's perceive it, i can not make it any clearer that we do not want to be like Arsenal Fan TV. We want a channel with our own that that is authentic and we can put our on stamp on, but we also want a channel spurs fans can be proud of.

So we have a decision to make, we want to be a voice and give a voice to Spurs but we are unsure if fan cams are the way to go with our fanbase. the reason is because we either go for the reactionary fans to get views or no one will watch our channel, as we saw with SpurredOn, its that simple really. but if we don't do fancams then how do we give a voice to other spurs fans who want to be heard and want their shared? that is our dilemma. we want to hear your opinions.

now i expect some push back to this, i understand that there will fans who are worried about turning our fan base into a laughing stock or something, but this will not deter us so i would ask to try and keep comments constructive as opposed to "don't bother" or "just don't" but obviously that's up to you guys. Any Content Suggestions or anything you guys particularly want to see are welcome.

Thank you for reading, looking forward to hearing your opinions.

Hello, @simyid

I stumbled upon your mail on F365 at the time and it was eye-opening for me to understand that SpurredOn was producer's creation to syphon traffic out of a very large base. Video content is becoming big business these days. I think though a Spurs Fan Channel could be both a commercial success for you and your brother and good for the club's image. As I do marketing and advertising for a living, here are my two pence:

Make your editing short and dynamic. @jonathanhotspur mentioned that and I couldn't agree more - editing is crucial. You need a lot of opinions in very very short bites. Picture your after-Genk edition:

Fan A "Disappointed!"
Fan B "We didn't play our normal game, I'm in shock"
Fan C: "Poch out!
Fan D: "Not the end of the world but gutted"
Fan E: "We'll focus on FA cup and finishing top 4 then"
Fan C (again): "What was Dele thinking?! Ban the ****!"
Fan A (again): "That was spursy, don't you think, mate?"
Fan C (again): "I ***in' hate Wembley! Levy out!"
Fan E (again): "FA Cup will define our season, mark my words"
etc...​

The greater the number of interviewed fans + the shorter the bites in a single serving = more balanced and potentially successful formula.

Managing rants. Rants are what make AFTV commercially successful. Obviously, the "Fan C" in the above example provides the biggest entertainment for neutrals and rivals alike. Keep him there, no problem. Give him enough airtime, just make sure to balance him out with more sensible and toned down opinions of others. Thus Fan C will look like an extreme freak in a sea of normal disappointed Spurs fans. This saves the face of club and fanbase as a whole. Also, always break down the rant in short pieces (no longer than 7-9 seconds per bit) while 'diluting' it with cut-ins of other fans' soundbites. AFTV gives them too much airtime in very large chunks which is both lazy and detrimental to the fanbase image.

Making the best out of regulars. Regulars are inevitable. Over time you will find they be looking for you and your camera. The Tys and Claudes will stalk and pester you. No problem, even better if they are freaks because they will become the salt and pepper of your pieces. Great characters keep viewer's attention. Regulars on screen are what make viewers regular too. Just make sure you're not lazy like Robbie and include many normal unseen before fans with good soundbites inbetween. Insightful regulars are also needed to counterbalance the freaks. You'll get to know them too.

But don't make them run the show.
AFTV is now a hostage of their own Claudes and Tys since they gained a star status and viewers are looking for them. They're now undroppable and run the show.

Make your own hilarity. Fans can give the most hilarious of soundbites. Problem is, you can't rely on that every single matchday. Sometimes all is just gloom or boring and you have no control over this. Asking them random questions about pies and haircuts and birds and parking lots is one way to create your own hilarity. Imagine the above example with Fan A cutting in with "But yeah that mince was amazing!" or similar, totally out of place - provides a good a chuckle by means of surprise. Not fitting a narrative is a good thing too.

Women. Get to know our female match-goers and include them regularly in the mix. AFTV omits women to their own peril. Professionally speaking, females are very good viewership value for football fan audience and make the club look good too. Even if some of them happen to appear dumb, you can always edit a soundbite or two out of them that would be reasonably neutral.

Those are off the top of my head. If you think those help, PM me, I may have other stuff that could be of value to you. Like special pieces, how to get prepared for sponsored content, dealing with (and capitalizing on) comments on youtube, etc.

 

[Khilari]

Hello, fellow yido's,

My brother and I are currently in Discussion's with a production company to start a spurs fans youtube channel. we are both season ticket holders, have had it for 7 years and have been going to Spurs for over 15 years. This is something we are extremely passionate and excited about starting but we wanted to get some input from you guys before we started shooting content and making video's. we are well aware of what Arsenal Fan TV is and how fan's perceive it, i can not make it any clearer that we do not want to be like Arsenal Fan TV. We want a channel with our own that that is authentic and we can put our on stamp on, but we also want a channel spurs fans can be proud of.

So we have a decision to make, we want to be a voice and give a voice to Spurs but we are unsure if fan cams are the way to go with our fanbase. the reason is because we either go for the reactionary fans to get views or no one will watch our channel, as we saw with SpurredOn, its that simple really. but if we don't do fancams then how do we give a voice to other spurs fans who want to be heard and want their shared? that is our dilemma. we want to hear your opinions.

now i expect some push back to this, i understand that there will fans who are worried about turning our fan base into a laughing stock or something, but this will not deter us so i would ask to try and keep comments constructive as opposed to "don't bother" or "just don't" but obviously that's up to you guys. Any Content Suggestions or anything you guys particularly want to see are welcome.

Thank you for reading, looking forward to hearing your opinions.

Here is a link to our twitter page

https://twitter.com/OneHotspurTV

Thanks for this. I'm really pleased that you guys are thinking of doing this.

I've often looked out for Spurs content, whether it's podcasts or YouTube. Someone's going to do it. increasingly, fans will be from the "instant consumption", images & internet video generation. My kids don't understand why we can't always choose a program for them to watch immediately when we're not at home. There's no point in not doing it because some fans won't like it. They don't have to watch it.

The content is so varied. I find I never have time to listen to a whole podcast and so frequently don't keep up with the ones I have previously enjoyed.

The YouTube channels are almost always made by different creators so there's no consistency.

I don't have a problem with the Arsenal one - I wouldn't want a Spurs channel to just be all about ranting, but I don't think we're that kind of support. There'd be less "blad" and "fam"-ing but I suspect a reasonable amount of moaning (based on here) and enough knee-jerk commentary (also based on here).

The things I'd like to see would be:
- a review of the last match(es), whether that's stadium side or later on in a local pub
- chat about the team selection
- chat about the player performances
- updates on news e.g. transfers, injuries, press conferences or other news
- some preview of the next game

That's a lot to cover in 10 or so minutes so maybe some weeks you would only cover the first 2/3. But I don't think longer than 10-15min would be needed.

Look forward to it!

 

[ljinko888]

I would recommend following Redmen tv / Toffee TV's style.

Keep the majority of your content sit down chat with yourselves and guests and have fan cams as a side addition.

Arsenal fan tv is 80% fan cams - they know what they're doing and are opening themselves to ridicule.

 

[arunspurs]

Please not the ArsenalFan TV format

i) If you want to take fans views, do not take views from same fans week in week out. Speak with all kinds of fans - young, old, Londoner or Foriegner

ii) Podcast every week would be good. But have clear concise speakers rather than people who go on rants. Podcasts with Journos who report on Spurs stories

iii) Do news like videos...Something informative. Say even a news update on hows the stadium coming along etc

iv) See if you can get the support of THST. See if you could engage them on Spurs related news or coverage

v) Occasional current/former player interviews or opposition fan interviews


If your intent is going to be for number of subscriptions or views, forget the support for the channel...Because you will get found out like SpurredOn. Be genuine in intent or just forget the whole thing.

 

[ljinko888]

Flav from the fighting cock podcast does shows on the ballstreet youtube channel (45k subs). Pitch a word with him if you can.

@flav_bateman

 

[danielneeds]

He could get people with opposing views from say the Lamela thread to meet up in real life and dook it out.

Or how about a classic Jol v Ramos, for old times sake?

 

[Drink!Drink!]

hmm, inevitable, but depressing

fan tv stations seem mostly to be visual versions of "let's all laugh at XXXXX" with most viewers coming from rival clubs.

what's the point? apart from the obvious...people chasing a few quid from advertising. if you actually want to make a contribution to the greater good, then do something different. Ask why the "away days" videos were so popular. I would say it's about story telling, about the experience of following Spurs. but of course that would take more work and effort...hmm

 

[RickyVilla]

I'd be a bit choosy when picking 'victims'......Just go for anyone who is slurring their words, cannot walk in a straight line and is wearing Stone Island gear

I'd be perfect for that job. When can I start?

 

[theShiznit]

Please not the ArsenalFan TV format

i) If you want to take fans views, do not take views from same fans week in week out. Speak with all kinds of fans - young, old, Londoner or Foriegner

ii) Podcast every week would be good. But have clear concise speakers rather than people who go on rants. Podcasts with Journos who report on Spurs stories

iii) Do news like videos...Something informative. Say even a news update on hows the stadium coming along etc

iv) See if you can get the support of THST. See if you could engage them on Spurs related news or coverage

v) Occasional current/former player interviews or opposition fan interviews


If your intent is going to be for number of subscriptions or views, forget the support for the channel...Because you will get found out like SpurredOn. Be genuine in intent or just forget the whole thing.

But then we'd be missing out on the Spurs equivalent of an extra from Pirates of the Caribbean and the Spurs Spike Lee wannabe.

As long as no one says "whose name is [insert gooner name] anyway?" right before we play them we'll be fine...

 

[Bensonrecon]

Don't need fan cams at all. You can be active with the fans using things like google hangouts and skype if you wanted to do live stuff or utilize your twitter account to do social content like a Spurs tailored Ball Street. Rage of a fresh loss eases off a little then and you'll look more like a legit outlet than a fan cam cash in attempt.

 

[Gaz_Gammon]

Great idea, go for it, and enjoy yourself!

 

[olliec]

the problem is nobody wants to watch a fan talk sense because it's boring. People want to watch someone throwing a tantrum using words like blud, fam and init. This is entertainment.

 

[crokey]

You're just trying to make a bit of easy dolla and I respect that, but it's not good for the club

 

[UpTownSpur]

I think a lot of the advice here is based on wanting to create Spurs in good light. That's easy to do but it's boring and no one will watch it Most fan TV channels struggle to get 10k views for their videos, with maybe the odd one getting 100k. I doubt any of them make any money. The only one that does is Arsenal Fan TV, so it's obviously the correct business model to follow. Most videos on it get views in the hundreds of thousands and some over a million. This creates large advertising revenue and he's even managed to getting apps to sponsoring videos.

 

[THFCSPURS19]

Hello, fellow yido's,

My brother and I are currently in Discussion's with a production company to start a spurs fans youtube channel. we are both season ticket holders, have had it for 7 years and have been going to Spurs for over 15 years. This is something we are extremely passionate and excited about starting but we wanted to get some input from you guys before we started shooting content and making video's. we are well aware of what Arsenal Fan TV is and how fan's perceive it, i can not make it any clearer that we do not want to be like Arsenal Fan TV. We want a channel with our own that that is authentic and we can put our on stamp on, but we also want a channel spurs fans can be proud of.

So we have a decision to make, we want to be a voice and give a voice to Spurs but we are unsure if fan cams are the way to go with our fanbase. the reason is because we either go for the reactionary fans to get views or no one will watch our channel, as we saw with SpurredOn, its that simple really. but if we don't do fancams then how do we give a voice to other spurs fans who want to be heard and want their shared? that is our dilemma. we want to hear your opinions.

now i expect some push back to this, i understand that there will fans who are worried about turning our fan base into a laughing stock or something, but this will not deter us so i would ask to try and keep comments constructive as opposed to "don't bother" or "just don't" but obviously that's up to you guys. Any Content Suggestions or anything you guys particularly want to see are welcome.

Thank you for reading, looking forward to hearing your opinions.

Here is a link to our twitter page

https://twitter.com/OneHotspurTV

Anyone who negged this is a prick. If this is what you're passionate about, then do it. The Fan Cams are dodgy, but I personally preferred the weekly shows on Spurred On and the Match Reviews - they also got Stobart on a few times for transfers and you should try and replicate that.

 

[Tucker]

Hello, @simyid

I stumbled upon your mail on F365 at the time and it was eye-opening for me to understand that SpurredOn was producer's creation to syphon traffic out of a very large base. Video content is becoming big business these days. I think though a Spurs Fan Channel could be both a commercial success for you and your brother and good for the club's image. As I do marketing and advertising for a living, here are my two pence:

Make your editing short and dynamic. @jonathanhotspur mentioned that and I couldn't agree more - editing is crucial. You need a lot of opinions in very very short bites. Picture your after-Genk edition:

Fan A "Disappointed!"
Fan B "We didn't play our normal game, I'm in shock"
Fan C: "Poch out!
Fan D: "Not the end of the world but gutted"
Fan E: "We'll focus on FA cup and finishing top 4 then"
Fan C (again): "What was Dele thinking?! Ban the ****!"
Fan A (again): "That was spursy, don't you think, mate?"
Fan C (again): "I ***in' hate Wembley! Levy out!"
Fan E (again): "FA Cup will define our season, mark my words"
etc...​

The greater the number of interviewed fans + the shorter the bites in a single serving = more balanced and potentially successful formula.

Managing rants. Rants are what make AFTV commercially successful. Obviously, the "Fan C" in the above example provides the biggest entertainment for neutrals and rivals alike. Keep him there, no problem. Give him enough airtime, just make sure to balance him out with more sensible and toned down opinions of others. Thus Fan C will look like an extreme freak in a sea of normal disappointed Spurs fans. This saves the face of club and fanbase as a whole. Also, always break down the rant in short pieces (no longer than 7-9 seconds per bit) while 'diluting' it with cut-ins of other fans' soundbites. AFTV gives them too much airtime in very large chunks which is both lazy and detrimental to the fanbase image.

Making the best out of regulars. Regulars are inevitable. Over time you will find they be looking for you and your camera. The Tys and Claudes will stalk and pester you. No problem, even better if they are freaks because they will become the salt and pepper of your pieces. Great characters keep viewer's attention. Regulars on screen are what make viewers regular too. Just make sure you're not lazy like Robbie and include many normal unseen before fans with good soundbites inbetween. Insightful regulars are also needed to counterbalance the freaks. You'll get to know them too.

But don't make them run the show.
AFTV is now a hostage of their own Claudes and Tys since they gained a star status and viewers are looking for them. They're now undroppable and run the show.

Make your own hilarity. Fans can give the most hilarious of soundbites. Problem is, you can't rely on that every single matchday. Sometimes all is just gloom or boring and you have no control over this. Asking them random questions about pies and haircuts and birds and parking lots is one way to create your own hilarity. Imagine the above example with Fan A cutting in with "But yeah that mince was amazing!" or similar, totally out of place - provides a good a chuckle by means of surprise. Not fitting a narrative is a good thing too.

Women. Get to know our female match-goers and include them regularly in the mix. AFTV omits women to their own peril. Professionally speaking, females are very good viewership value for football fan audience and make the club look good too. Even if some of them happen to appear dumb, you can always edit a soundbite or two out of them that would be reasonably neutral.

Those are off the top of my head. If you think those help, PM me, I may have other stuff that could be of value to you. Like special pieces, how to get prepared for sponsored content, dealing with (and capitalizing on) comments on youtube, etc.

Basically everything here ^

You need to distinguish yourself from the likes of Arsenal fan tv, which is essentially the audition rounds of X factor, where the freaks get pushed out onto the stage for laughs.

Even if you copied this style, I think you'd fail because you wouldn't get the following now, it would be a turn off to most Spurs fans, and thus you'd not grow your core.

But being individual and making insightful content will make you stand out and help you attract a core.

 

[mpickard2087]

I'd echo what some others have said, if I did watch something like this I'd be more interested in seeing a qualitative sit-down discussion type thing away from the match/match day that's full length rather than short and sharp.

However the problems start straightaway, in finding a selection of fans with strong but interesting intelligent opinions and ideas that garner discussion. I'll sound like a terrible snob, but fuck it, and say though that personally I don't really rate the views of 99% of Spurs fans though so putting together a panel of fans would be nigh on impossible

But then the vast majority wouldn't want to watch that, they want the rants and meltdowns that can
Be viewed in a couple of minutes... So don't listen to my advice

 

[King of Otters]

Every big club will have their Arsenal Fan TV soon enough.

All I ask is that you don't make us look an even bigger set of ****s than we are already.