What's new

Tottenham Hotspur Expands American Licensing Presence

Spursidol

Well-Known Member
Sep 15, 2007
12,636
15,834
Some people on here seem to denigrate his potential because they believe we signed him for the American market. He is, in fact, very very promising, and he could be a very good player if coached well. I'm sure Klinsmann had a lot to do with our signing of him.

Not denigrating his potential at all - and I agree with good coaching he could be a good player

However would we have signed him without him being one of the 'blue eyed boys' of US soccer right now - I think not. Just my opinion of course !
 

DaSpurs

Well-Known Member
Jan 20, 2013
11,816
13,655
Not denigrating his potential at all - and I agree with good coaching he could be a good player

However would we have signed him without him being one of the 'blue eyed boys' of US soccer right now - I think not. Just my opinion of course !

Tbh I'm not so sure we wouldn't have. When you read some of these articles about how Poch ideally likes his wingbacks to play in terms of positioning and ability, and consider the fact that we signed Yedlin in Poch's first summer before he had time to really learn his squad and experiment with implementing his formation, Yedlin's skillset looks unusually compatible. I think his name would have come up regardless of his nationality in a search for a possible Naughton replacement.
 

yankspurs

Enic Out
Aug 22, 2013
41,883
71,188
Some people on here seem to denigrate his potential because they believe we signed him for the American market. He is, in fact, very very promising, and he could be a very good player if coached well. I'm sure Klinsmann had a lot to do with our signing of him.
In most peoples minds, that's the case with any club buying an American player and will continue to be this way for a while. There's a stereotype against American players as we are yet to have a truly world class player and because the sport isnt at its peak yet in this country. So it is no surprise that's the feeling with Yedlin. It's Yedlin's job to prove everyone wrong about him. He truly does have extremely high potential. And I am glad he now has a better chance at reaching it. This was a good move for him, the US and for Tottenham on both a commercial and footballing level.

I think it is abundantly clear we missed Walker and his pace and attacking impetus but also his ability to track back. We look alot better in attack and in defense with him than we did with Naughton, Dier or even Vlad. Yedlin is in the mold of Walker. So I believe that our play wont suffer that much anymore when Walker misses a game, even though Yedlin is not as good as Walker right now. Plus, Yedlin also adds versatility in that he could be used in the midfield to as a change of pace sub. He actually crosses pretty well, AND he looks to pass all while having pace! I still believe his best position is RB and that is where he has the most potential, however.
 

HappySpur

You Can't Unfry Things Jerri
Jan 7, 2012
7,666
19,601
More supporters clubs than any other PL team?!! That is a surprise considering the Yanks' love of 'winners', wonder why that is?!! Maybe Adam Richmond is more popular than I thought?!!
GO SPURS!! YAY!! :)


Do we?
Doesn't explain the Boston Red Sox fans who stuck by their team for 84 years without winning the World Series. Between wins they went to the WS, 4 times in 46, 67, 75 and 86. They lost them in horrifying ways and suffered so many ways in other seasons to their bitter rivals, the New York Yankees. The fans, of which I am one, are called Red Sox Nation for a reason.

Or the Detroit Lions fans who still wait for their fist Superbowl appearance and their first title of any kind since 1957. Until this season I couldn't remember a season better than 9-7 in my life. Yet somehow 56,000 a week still go to see them.....only 7 clubs in Europe can top their average attendance.

Or the Seattle Seahawks fans who prior to this past year had never won anything and yet had some of the world of sports most impressive supporters.

The St. Louis Blues have existed since 1967. They made the Stanley Cup in their first 3 seasons and got swept all 3 times. They have never been back and have won only 18 playoff series in the 43 years since that initial run. They sell 90% of their tickets.

Ole Miss won their last national title in 1962 and their last conference title a year later and they draw 57000 a week. And just to put that in perspective, Oxford Mississippi has a population of 20,000.

Sacremento has never won a title in Basketball and haven't even contested a final since 1951 and yet sell 82% of seats to their home games.

The Clippers are literally a punchline of NBA jokes and sell out 100% of their seats.

And then there are the Cubs. Last time they won something was the first year we ever played league football. Over 100 years and they sell 83% of their seats in even the worst seasons.

Americans, contrary to that chestnut, love their teams win-or-lose, no matter what. Just like everyone else in the world.
 

IGSpur

Well-Known Member
Jan 11, 2013
7,939
13,758
Not denigrating his potential at all - and I agree with good coaching he could be a good player

However would we have signed him without him being one of the 'blue eyed boys' of US soccer right now - I think not. Just my opinion of course !

Additionally he wouldn't be one of the 'blued eyed boys' without putting in good performances. He is known as he has played well. I see the argument for both sides. If he was just American and not very good we wouldn't have signed him
 

txspurs

Active Member
Aug 31, 2011
120
79
They can't wait for spurs to tour so they can see Bale again.

#awkward

He was at the first tour so.. yea that's an awkward post for you there. It was cool being able to meet the players and get signatures. We don't have the privilege of going to the Lane every week. We support however we can.
 

DaSpurs

Well-Known Member
Jan 20, 2013
11,816
13,655
Do we?
Doesn't explain the Boston Red Sox fans who stuck by their team for 84 years without winning the World Series. Between wins they went to the WS, 4 times in 46, 67, 75 and 86. They lost them in horrifying ways and suffered so many ways in other seasons to their bitter rivals, the New York Yankees. The fans, of which I am one, are called Red Sox Nation for a reason.

Or the Detroit Lions fans who still wait for their fist Superbowl appearance and their first title of any kind since 1957. Until this season I couldn't remember a season better than 9-7 in my life. Yet somehow 56,000 a week still go to see them.....only 7 clubs in Europe can top their average attendance.

Or the Seattle Seahawks fans who prior to this past year had never won anything and yet had some of the world of sports most impressive supporters.

The St. Louis Blues have existed since 1967. They made the Stanley Cup in their first 3 seasons and got swept all 3 times. They have never been back and have won only 18 playoff series in the 43 years since that initial run. They sell 90% of their tickets.

Ole Miss won their last national title in 1962 and their last conference title a year later and they draw 57000 a week. And just to put that in perspective, Oxford Mississippi has a population of 20,000.

Sacremento has never won a title in Basketball and haven't even contested a final since 1951 and yet sell 82% of seats to their home games.

The Clippers are literally a punchline of NBA jokes and sell out 100% of their seats.

And then there are the Cubs. Last time they won something was the first year we ever played league football. Over 100 years and they sell 83% of their seats in even the worst seasons.

Americans, contrary to that chestnut, love their teams win-or-lose, no matter what. Just like everyone else in the world.

Uh oh, you've gone and dared to defy their precious stereotypes of us... ;)
 

shelfmonkey

Weird is different, different is interesting.
Mar 21, 2007
6,690
8,040
Do we?
Doesn't explain the Boston Red Sox fans who stuck by their team for 84 years without winning the World Series. Between wins they went to the WS, 4 times in 46, 67, 75 and 86. They lost them in horrifying ways and suffered so many ways in other seasons to their bitter rivals, the New York Yankees. The fans, of which I am one, are called Red Sox Nation for a reason.

Or the Detroit Lions fans who still wait for their fist Superbowl appearance and their first title of any kind since 1957. Until this season I couldn't remember a season better than 9-7 in my life. Yet somehow 56,000 a week still go to see them.....only 7 clubs in Europe can top their average attendance.

Or the Seattle Seahawks fans who prior to this past year had never won anything and yet had some of the world of sports most impressive supporters.

The St. Louis Blues have existed since 1967. They made the Stanley Cup in their first 3 seasons and got swept all 3 times. They have never been back and have won only 18 playoff series in the 43 years since that initial run. They sell 90% of their tickets.

Ole Miss won their last national title in 1962 and their last conference title a year later and they draw 57000 a week. And just to put that in perspective, Oxford Mississippi has a population of 20,000.

Sacremento has never won a title in Basketball and haven't even contested a final since 1951 and yet sell 82% of seats to their home games.

The Clippers are literally a punchline of NBA jokes and sell out 100% of their seats.

And then there are the Cubs. Last time they won something was the first year we ever played league football. Over 100 years and they sell 83% of their seats in even the worst seasons.

Americans, contrary to that chestnut, love their teams win-or-lose, no matter what. Just like everyone else in the world.

Blimey!! You got out the wrong side of bed this morning!! :)
 

E17yid

Well-Known Member
Jan 21, 2013
16,985
30,495
In most peoples minds, that's the case with any club buying an American player and will continue to be this way for a while. There's a stereotype against American players as we are yet to have a truly world class player and because the sport isnt at its peak yet in this country. So it is no surprise that's the feeling with Yedlin. It's Yedlin's job to prove everyone wrong about him. He truly does have extremely high potential. And I am glad he now has a better chance at reaching it. This was a good move for him, the US and for Tottenham on both a commercial and footballing level.

I think it is abundantly clear we missed Walker and his pace and attacking impetus but also his ability to track back. We look alot better in attack and in defense with him than we did with Naughton, Dier or even Vlad. Yedlin is in the mold of Walker. So I believe that our play wont suffer that much anymore when Walker misses a game, even though Yedlin is not as good as Walker right now. Plus, Yedlin also adds versatility in that he could be used in the midfield to as a change of pace sub. He actually crosses pretty well, AND he looks to pass all while having pace! I still believe his best position is RB and that is where he has the most potential, however.

You lot see football as being a girls sport, untill that changes you are likely to never produce any top talents.

I have no doubt, if Amercia put it's mind (and more importantly money) behind football then within 30-40 years you could be a world leader. Until that day you'll more than likely produce average talent after average talent.

All of the skills you think he has (other than pace) become a bit redundant as he will have never come close to the speed and power of the EPL. He'll have far less time on the ball than what he is used to.

I'm glad he's coming over as it'll give him 6 months to get to know the lads and style of play etc etc but I'm not holding out much hope of him being a first teamer any time soon.
 

Sp3akerboxxx

Adoption: Nabil Bentaleb
Apr 4, 2006
5,180
7,621
More supporters clubs than any other PL team?!! That is a surprise considering the Yanks' love of 'winners', wonder why that is?!! Maybe Adam Richmond is more popular than I thought?!!
GO SPURS!! YAY!! :)

The yanks have always had a soft spot for under dogs. Just look at every Hollywood movie, and how much fanfare the Baltimore ravens got.
 

SandroClegane

Well-Known Member
Jun 27, 2012
3,717
13,842
You lot see football as being a girls sport, untill that changes you are likely to never produce any top talents.

I have no doubt, if Amercia put it's mind (and more importantly money) behind football then within 30-40 years you could be a world leader. Until that day you'll more than likely produce average talent after average talent.

All of the skills you think he has (other than pace) become a bit redundant as he will have never come close to the speed and power of the EPL. He'll have far less time on the ball than what he is used to.

I'm glad he's coming over as it'll give him 6 months to get to know the lads and style of play etc etc but I'm not holding out much hope of him being a first teamer any time soon.
Quite a blanket statement about "us lot".

Is Tim Howard not a top talent in the Premier League? Clint Dempsey scored 18 goals in the Premier League. Michael Bradley played a big role in Roma qualifying for Champions League and challenging Juve at the top of Serie A. Wouldn't call any of those guys average talent. Not to mention our U21/U18 teams feature players playing for Bayern, Borussia Dortmund, Barcelona, Schalke, etc.

He already is one of the fastest players in the EPL. Most MLS teams press hard so he'll be used to not having a lot of time on the ball. He will struggle with ball control as that's one of his weak points along with positioning.

Glad you're writing him off before he gets here, always nice to have the support of the fans. Merry Christmas.
 

DaSpurs

Well-Known Member
Jan 20, 2013
11,816
13,655
You lot see football as being a girls sport, untill that changes you are likely to never produce any top talents.

I have no doubt, if Amercia put it's mind (and more importantly money) behind football then within 30-40 years you could be a world leader. Until that day you'll more than likely produce average talent after average talent.

All of the skills you think he has (other than pace) become a bit redundant as he will have never come close to the speed and power of the EPL. He'll have far less time on the ball than what he is used to.

I'm glad he's coming over as it'll give him 6 months to get to know the lads and style of play etc etc but I'm not holding out much hope of him being a first teamer any time soon.

We see it as a "commie sport," not a "girls sport."

It will always be tough for the US to enter the upper echelons of world football due to how much attention our big three sports receive and how much money they make. It's currently the most played youth sport though and its popularity among the youngest demographic of sports fans has risen above that of baseball (surprised it took this long), so we'll see how that manifests in the future.
 

E17yid

Well-Known Member
Jan 21, 2013
16,985
30,495
Quite a blanket statement about "us lot".

Is Tim Howard not a top talent in the Premier League? Clint Dempsey scored 18 goals in the Premier League. Michael Bradley played a big role in Roma qualifying for Champions League and challenging Juve at the top of Serie A. Wouldn't call any of those guys average talent. Not to mention our U21/U18 teams feature players playing for Bayern, Borussia Dortmund, Barcelona, Schalke, etc.

He already is one of the fastest players in the EPL. Most MLS teams press hard so he'll be used to not having a lot of time on the ball. He will struggle with ball control as that's one of his weak points along with positioning.

Glad you're writing him off before he gets here, always nice to have the support of the fans. Merry Christmas.

Not writing him off. Just not holding my breath that he's going to be a first teamer anytime soon. America has 3 or 4 sports ahead of football, you think if any European countries were the same they'd still be producing world class talent? It's not impossible, obviously, just makes it more unlikely.
 

yankspurs

Enic Out
Aug 22, 2013
41,883
71,188
Not writing him off. Just not holding my breath that he's going to be a first teamer anytime soon. America has 3 or 4 sports ahead of football, you think if any European countries were the same they'd still be producing world class talent? It's not impossible, obviously, just makes it more unlikely.
The sport is growing and is the fastest growing sports in the US. Yedlin has a ton of potential which is plain to see. Give him a chance.
 

SandroClegane

Well-Known Member
Jun 27, 2012
3,717
13,842
Not writing him off. Just not holding my breath that he's going to be a first teamer anytime soon. America has 3 or 4 sports ahead of football, you think if any European countries were the same they'd still be producing world class talent? It's not impossible, obviously, just makes it more unlikely.
I don't expect him to be a first teamer right away either, but your original post was far more negative than this one. I hope he's able to step his game up and put on some good performances in EL/FA/Capital One Cups over this year and next and get a few PL appearances if Walker gets hurt. He'll take some time but the fact he speaks english will definitely help him settle in.
 

HotspurFC1950

Well-Known Member
Feb 6, 2011
4,223
2,623
Tbh I'm not so sure we wouldn't have. When you read some of these articles about how Poch ideally likes his wingbacks to play in terms of positioning and ability, and consider the fact that we signed Yedlin in Poch's first summer before he had time to really learn his squad and experiment with implementing his formation, Yedlin's skillset looks unusually compatible. I think his name would have come up regardless of his nationality in a search for a possible Naughton replacement.


Plus Poch saw Yedlin first hand on the summer tour
 
Top