Match Threads Tottenham Hotspur vs Liverpool FC

[Sweetsman]

Sorry to say this but it's all on Poch.

Why?

 

[Deleted member 27995]

Why?

Well it can't be the players can it?

We know how much Levy has meddled, only leaves one other person, doesn't it?

 

[Sweetsman]

Well it can't be the players can it?

We know how much Levy has meddled, only leaves one other person, doesn't it?

Do we, how so?
Do we, in what way?
Have you actually thought any of this through or is it the rage talking?

 

[Deleted member 27995]

Do we, how so?
Do we, in what way?
Have you actually thought any of this through or is it the rage talking?

I thought it out, and by using the logic and information to hand on here that is used daily/monthly then this is the conclusion I have come to.

Between Poch and Levy the last two games are pretty much their fault.

I don't do rage on here, I am too busy sunshine pumping.

 

[Sweetsman]

I thought it out, and by using the logic and information to hand on here that is used daily/monthly then this is the conclusion I have come to.

Between Poch and Levy the last two games are pretty much their fault.

I don't do rage on here, I am too busy sunshine pumping.

How are the last two games their fault, especially Levy's? Don't you think he might have his mind on other things? Were they also at fault for the first three games?

 

[THX2208]

4-2-3-1

Lloris
Trippier Alderweireld Vertonghen Rose
Eriksen Wanyama
Lamela Dele Lucas
Kane

Christian Eriksen is not and will never be a Central Midfield player! He hasn't the physicality for it. By Christ he's lucky if he starts as a number 10 as he's been utter s**t recently!!!

 

[Sweetsman]

It's at times like this that @shelfboy68 comes hurtling over the horizon.

 

[Deleted member 27995]

How are the last two games their fault, especially Levy's? Don't you think he might have his mind on other things? Were they also at fault for the first three games?

Well you see, now you are talking sense, but I have disregarded the first three games.

I don't think we were that good in the first three, and especially against United had Lukaku taken his chance early things could have been very different.

I don't know about Levy personally, I am just basing this off of what I have read on here and other places. His business acumen etc etc.

Poch is very stubborn (again reading between the lines and on here) and today and more so the latter stages of the second half of the Watford game he could have done more to change the course of the game.

I'm disappointed as a fan. What else is there to say?

 

[Deleted member 27995]

Christian Eriksen is not and will never be a Central Midfield player! He hasn't the physicality for it. By Christ he's lucky if he starts as a number 10 as he's been utter s**t recently!!!

I think he has been bang average since the start of the season to be honest.

Considering some of the links in the press at the tail end of the TW I would have thought he would have been turning in some proper displays, instead he has for the most part disappeared and has been throughly shite.

 

[Sweetsman]

Well you see, now you are talking sense, but I have disregarded the first three games.

I don't think we were that good in the first three, and especially against United had Lukaku taken his chance early things could have been very different.

I don't know about Levy personally, I am just basing this off of what I have read on here and other places. His business acumen etc etc.

Poch is very stubborn (again reading between the lines and on here) and today and more so the latter stages of the second half of the Watford game he could have done more to change the course of the game.

I'm disappointed as a fan. What else is there to say?

Perhaps, rage wasn't the right noun, but I share your disappointment. Poch can be stubborn, but he was trying to make a point to the players at Watford. The point was that they had believed the hype, so he left them hoist by their own petard. That doesn't mean to say that I was not going bananas at the time with the lack of early subs. Dier was sitting, shaking his head in disgust, but he was awful today as he often is. The man can't seem to concentrate for more than ten seconds. The lads need an away day on a team building exercise. Some of them should have pulled a sickie for the internationals, especially St Harry of Kane.

 

[Sweetsman]

I think he has been bang average since the start of the season to be honest.

Considering some of the links in the press at the tail end of the TW I would have thought he would have been turning in some proper displays, instead he has for the most part disappeared and has been throughly shite.

He's been what the Danish coach accused him of being, that is weak. And this is the basic issue at the heart of Spurs that has been festering for decades, that Poch is trying to expunge. I've actually wondered whether selling big players to generate funds and get in hungry young, more gifted players is what is needed. That could be a high risk, brave decision.

 

[Deleted member 27995]

Perhaps, rage wasn't the right noun, but I share your disappointment. Poch can be stubborn, but he was trying to make a point to the players at Watford. The point was that they had believed the hype, so he left them hoist by their own petard. That doesn't mean to say that I was not going bananas at the time with the lack of early subs. Dier was sitting, shaking his head in disgust, but he was awful today as he often is. The man can't seem to concentrate for more than ten seconds. The lads need an away day on a team building exercise. Some of them should have pulled a sickie for the internationals, especially St Harry of Kane.

No idea why half of them were involved with the national team, Sterling fucked it off, some of our lads should have done the same.

Personally the team lacks direction on the pitch. We've looked devoid of ideas through large chunks of the games this season and it continued today.

How ever you view the start to the season, the last game and a half, Poch has quite easily highlighted the deficiencies in this squad and it's probably why his post match interviews over the last two games have come off as a man who genuinely is relaxed outwardly.

The man, even though he is being stubborn, is playing a blinder.

 

[fortworthspur]

Well it can't be the players can it?

We know how much Levy has meddled, only leaves one other person, doesn't it?

it could be the players. or just the condition of the squad. Tired players after the world cup, Sonny gone, Vic, Winks and Lamela with fitness issues. We are just now back to a full squad.

 

[Sweetsman]

I think he has been bang average since the start of the season to be honest.

Considering some of the links in the press at the tail end of the TW I would have thought he would have been turning in some proper displays, instead he has for the most part disappeared and has been throughly shite.

Eriksen doesn't start playing well till December, just like the rest of the team. Liverpool start brightly in every game, then wane. Had we not made basic errors to gift them the two goals, and as bad as we have been playing, I think we could have gone on to win. That may seem bizarre, but it always happens with Liverpool. For all their conspiracy theories, they get away with a lot of decisions in their favour.

 

[Deleted member 27995]

He's been what the Danish coach accused him of being, that is weak. And this is the basic issue at the heart of Spurs that has been festering for decades, that Poch is trying to expunge. I've actually wondered whether selling big players to generate funds and get in hungry young, more gifted players is what is needed. That could be a high risk, brave decision.

This is more like the Eriksen that Poch first inherited. He just doesn't look he gives that much of a fuck, floating around the pitch but just not affecting/effecting the match as some one of his quality, you would hope, would ...

No idea about buying more, but I would have liked to have thought barring the injuries to one or two, like with Kane and Mason, that one or two more be given a shot if those already in the team weren't doing enough. Time will tell.

 

[Sweetsman]

it could be the players. or just the condition of the squad. Tired players after the world cup, Sonny gone, Vic, Winks and Lamela with fitness issues. We are just now back to a full squad.

I've said it earlier, I think it's the disappointment of the players in our squad from the losing semi-finalists. The only one who won went on a bender. Look at what happened to the Croats against Spain. A lot of players are having to deal with the mental effects of the World Cup. It's like some form of PTSD in sport.

 

[Deleted member 27995]

it could be the players. or just the condition of the squad. Tired players after the world cup, Sonny gone, Vic, Winks and Lamela with fitness issues. We are just now back to a full squad.

It is true, but then again the players are doing what is asked of them, it's upto Poch to put them into a position to succeed.

Not overly bothered by the Inter game now, an away game after the last two results, i'd hope Poch starts to try and pick a stable starting eleven.

 

[Donki]

This whole season is going to be balls, full of frustration, and let downs.

Pretty much like most of ours then.

 

[fortworthspur]

It is true, but then again the players are doing what is asked of them, it's upto Poch to put them into a position to succeed.

Not overly bothered by the Inter game now, an away game after the last two results, i'd hope Poch starts to try and pick a stable starting eleven.

I agree its the managers job to get the most of his players, but I also think they sometimes just stink it up in spite of his best efforts. How did Ferguson do it?

 

[gerishep]

To think we were interested in Wijnaldum, many on here he thought was slow and crap and not good enough for us, probably the same one's saying there was absolutely no-one we could bring in during the summer that would improve the first team. Apart from a fine set of teeth, perhaps klopp has insight that poch doesn't.