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Tottenham Hotspur Women and the Super League

Flashspur

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In 2019, we finished second in the FA Women's Championship, resulting in promotion to the top-tier of Women's football in the UK, the FA Women's Super League.

A lot of our girls were part timers last season and I dont know how they are going to cope in the Super League. Some of the better sides in the League have professional players on show at the World Cup at the moment and I have to say the quality of the women's game is very impressive. Playing against full time professionals is a whole other ball game, excuse the pun!

Does any one know if we are recruiting players from the World Cup? We will have to upskill the Women's side. Daniel you know this is a key season for the ladies as well, right? Get out your cheque book son!

I've been very impressed by the following - Renard the tall French defender with her aerial ability, Tamires the Brazilian left back, pacy with skills, great attack on the flanks and solid in defence. Debhina another Brazilian with super quick attacking play in midfield and Cristiane their striker, superb with her positioning and ball control. Also very impressed by Cuthbert the little Scottish forward, Prince the Canadian wing forward with her great positioning around the box and the Italian midfielders and forwards Cristiana Girelli, Barbara Bonansea and Aurora Galli as well as Schneider the Jamacian goalkeeper and Cameroon's winger Gabrielle Onguene.

A lot of these players are already playing for European and English sides but a couple of key signings could improve us. Arsenal for example have a large number of senior internationals in their side including Netherlands’ amazing striker Vivianne Miedema.

If you havent been watching the Womens WC I highly recommend it. Some cracking matches and more to come!!
 

yankspurs

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Aug 22, 2013
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In 2019, we finished second in the FA Women's Championship, resulting in promotion to the top-tier of Women's football in the UK, the FA Women's Super League.

A lot of our girls were part timers last season and I dont know how they are going to cope in the Super League. Some of the better sides in the League have professional players on show at the World Cup at the moment and I have to say the quality of the women's game is very impressive. Playing against full time professionals is a whole other ball game, excuse the pun!

Does any one know if we are recruiting players from the World Cup? We will have to upskill the Women's side. Daniel you know this is a key season for the ladies as well, right? Get out your cheque book son!

I've been very impressed by the following - Renard the tall French defender with her aerial ability, Tamires the Brazilian left back, pacy with skills, great attack on the flanks and solid in defence. Debhina another Brazilian with super quick attacking play in midfield and Cristiane their striker, superb with her positioning and ball control. Also very impressed by Cuthbert the little Scottish forward, Prince the Canadian wing forward with her great positioning around the box and the Italian midfielders and forwards Cristiana Girelli, Barbara Bonansea and Aurora Galli as well as Schneider the Jamacian goalkeeper and Cameroon's winger Gabrielle Onguene.

A lot of these players are already playing for European and English sides but a couple of key signings could improve us. Arsenal for example have a large number of senior internationals in their side including Netherlands’ amazing striker Vivianne Miedema.

If you havent been watching the Womens WC I highly recommend it. Some cracking matches and more to come!!
Thought I read the club went professional last season? So presumably they were full timers?
 

Dougal

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Jun 4, 2004
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Christ, it’s going to be ITK on the women’s transfers next, isn’t it?

We did well last season but United’s team was far superior and handed out a couple of beatings. Hopefully we’ll invest a bit and get a foothold in the top league.
 

Locotoro

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Sep 2, 2004
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The women's game is very mucha game of prestige. Even more than the men's game in that players will always go to the biggest club because a woman's career is even shorter than the mens.the step up is going to be huge and success would be staying in the league
 

coys200

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West Ham went from basically division 3 to division 1 and survived even made a cup final. And if you watch the BBC series on how ridiculously amateurish they were with a 17 year old in charge. I’m sure we can match their achievements.
 

spursfan77

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West Ham went from basically division 3 to division 1 and survived even made a cup final. And if you watch the BBC series on how ridiculously amateurish they were with a 17 year old in charge. I’m sure we can match their achievements.

Didn’t they invest heavily though.

It’s an amazing achievement though by us and we’ve done it the right way, not like West Ham.
 

Lighty64

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The were all part-time last season and they will have to be full time from this summer to meet the FA criteria.

but Levy won't pay them that much, it's a guarantee. look at what we've been paying until now for a permanent PL team.

they will all want to leave for more money, and trophies:whistle:

edit: I'm trying to have a laugh before anyone takes me serious:cautious:
 

Adam456

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I alluded to this in another thread:

We have a shiny, amazing new stadium with unbelievable facilities that fans want to spend hours enjoying either side of a match.

Given the popularity of the WWC and the establishment of individual star players, it occurs to me that if we were to throw a fair bit of money at the ladies team (still peanuts by comparison with men's) to put it right up there challenging near the top then sooner or later we're going to be able to fill a reasonable proportion of the stadium a number of times a year

There could be all sorts of tie-ins such as free entry for men's season ticket holders, double header games, membership discounts, joint mens'/womens' loyalty points, food and beverage or Spurs shop tie-ins. You name it

Obviously all requires careful analysis and test events but we should be able to find a good balance of having a top team in both and using the stadium more regularly
 

Locotoro

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The problem at the moment is that even with a professional contract the women are not paid enough to sustain them for any period after retirement. A family member was a professional for about 10 years, a part of the national team for years, and even went to the Olympic team and and still retired because after completing her accounting qualifications she still had 0 experience 10 years after doing her degree.

A business model arsenal used to use to great effect was signing players and offering them office jobs within the business administration. It meant they kept a lot of good players when they needed to because it's very very difficult to keep a job even with a professional contract and an FA central contract (same model as Rugby) you're not earning enough to alleviate worries about income the moment you leave the game.
 

Saoirse

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I alluded to this in another thread:

We have a shiny, amazing new stadium with unbelievable facilities that fans want to spend hours enjoying either side of a match.

Given the popularity of the WWC and the establishment of individual star players, it occurs to me that if we were to throw a fair bit of money at the ladies team (still peanuts by comparison with men's) to put it right up there challenging near the top then sooner or later we're going to be able to fill a reasonable proportion of the stadium a number of times a year

There could be all sorts of tie-ins such as free entry for men's season ticket holders, double header games, membership discounts, joint mens'/womens' loyalty points, food and beverage or Spurs shop tie-ins. You name it

Obviously all requires careful analysis and test events but we should be able to find a good balance of having a top team in both and using the stadium more regularly

Mostly sounds like a good idea, but I really hope they don't start using the Women's games for loyalty points. I don't think your eligibility for cup final tickets etc should be based on whether you have the free time needed to, as well as following the men's side, trek out to Cheshunt to watch a very different type of football which isn't even comparable to a top non-league standard. Full respect to those who do that regularly, but it's an entirely different experience and shouldn't tie into it.
 

Adam456

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Mostly sounds like a good idea, but I really hope they don't start using the Women's games for loyalty points. I don't think your eligibility for cup final tickets etc should be based on whether you have the free time needed to, as well as following the men's side, trek out to Cheshunt to watch a very different type of football which isn't even comparable to a top non-league standard. Full respect to those who do that regularly, but it's an entirely different experience and shouldn't tie into it.
Fair point. I only meant for games at NWHL and I'm not saying that would be every game but just a little something to boost attendance now and then

If you wanted to throw some money at it and maybe get one or two really big names in e.g. Marta, Kerr, Alex Morgan ??? they'd want to be playing at NWHL in front of decent crowds and that's a bit chicken and egg
 

SugarRay

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You’re assuming a certain amount of Tottenham fans would support a Tottenham women’s team. Personally I’m not a big fan of women’s football but at times I’ll watch it and enjoy it for what it is ( basically filling a football void! ) but I have no feeling towards Tottenham women’s team. For me it’s a separate club.

As long as it doesn’t impact negatively ( pitch, costs etc ) on the club then crack on.
 

Dougal

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You’re assuming a certain amount of Tottenham fans would support a Tottenham women’s team. Personally I’m not a big fan of women’s football but at times I’ll watch it and enjoy it for what it is ( basically filling a football void! ) but I have no feeling towards Tottenham women’s team. For me it’s a separate club.

As long as it doesn’t impact negatively ( pitch, costs etc ) on the club then crack on.
I don’t necessarily think Spurs fans should have to support the women’s team. But if they were to take an interest in the women’s game hopefully Tottenham Women would be their first port of call. After going to my first game last season I’m looking to get to a few more this coming year. Positive influence for both of my daughters.
 

Marty

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You’re assuming a certain amount of Tottenham fans would support a Tottenham women’s team. Personally I’m not a big fan of women’s football but at times I’ll watch it and enjoy it for what it is ( basically filling a football void! ) but I have no feeling towards Tottenham women’s team. For me it’s a separate club.

As long as it doesn’t impact negatively ( pitch, costs etc ) on the club then crack on.
I don't get this at all. I will admit to never having watched Spurs women once in my entire life but I support the whole club, from the youngest to the first team, men and women alike. Any team that represents Tottenham Hotspur Football Club will have my support.
 

SugarRay

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I don't get this at all. I will admit to never having watched Spurs women once in my entire life but I support the whole club, from the youngest to the first team, men and women alike. Any team that represents Tottenham Hotspur Football Club will have my support.

Obviously I really want the youth teams to do well but the most important thing is they produce players. I’d support them over any other youth side of course but results don’t really matter until the first team imo. I’m proud we seem to have a very healthy approach when it comes to producing footballers, we seem to cater well to other sides of life and not just the game, which is so important seeing as the chance of making it as a player are so small.

I’d certainly favour a women’s team over any other women’s team of course, but for me I’d support them as much as I would if Tottenham Hotspur decided to form a basketball team. Neither would have any effect on the first team and nothing will ever come remotely close to the support I have for the men’s first team.
 

SugarRay

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I don’t necessarily think Spurs fans should have to support the women’s team. But if they were to take an interest in the women’s game hopefully Tottenham Women would be their first port of call. After going to my first game last season I’m looking to get to a few more this coming year. Positive influence for both of my daughters.

If I took a serious interest they would certainly be my first port of call, no doubt. Although I’m no real fan of the women’s game I love that it motivates women to take an interest in the sport. There’s a few women in my family who love their football. It’s brilliant.
 

muppetman

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This has Levy written all over it - relatively low outlay with a large potential reward. Anyone have figures on how much investment it would take to compete at the highest level - Lyon, Man City etc?
 

Tucker

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This has Levy written all over it - relatively low outlay with a large potential reward. Anyone have figures on how much investment it would take to compete at the highest level - Lyon, Man City etc?

That’s what I thought. It’s a PR dream. Invest prudently and you get plenty of exposure and success.
 
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