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Main Man

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They had most players injured to be fair

How do you know, the study doesn't specify number of individual players?

It specifies number of injuries, which they are the highest, but I imagine Luke Shaw contributes for half of that number himself.

Surely the 'days injured' figure is the most valid of all, and that is the one Sky Sports should have focused on. Especially when Newcastle United are way ahead in that respect.
 

alexis

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How do you know, the study doesn't specify number of individual players?

It specifies number of injuries, which they are the highest, but I imagine Luke Shaw contributes for half of that number himself.

Surely the 'days injured' figure is the most valid of all, and that is the one Sky Sports should have focused on. Especially when Newcastle United are way ahead in that respect.
Newcastle 1,871 days (37 total injuries)
Arsenal 1,466 (35)
Everton 1,423 (37)
Manchester United 1,348 (39)
Took the injuries to mean individuals, could have been one player getting injured 39 times, maybe it should have shown how many players it effected. But dont really think that Sky made such a big thing of it
Manchester United suffered the most injuries of any Premier League side last season, a study has revealed.

Louis van Gaal's side had a total of 39 players sidelined throughout the campaign, but the club still managed a top four finish in the Premier League.

United suffered most of their injuries in the first third of the season as Van Gaal struggled to adapt to the English top flight in his first season in charge, but last-day survivors Newcastle lost the most days through injury with a staggering 1,871, a total 405 days higher than second-place Arsenal.
 
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Main Man

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Newcastle 1,871 days (37 total injuries)
Arsenal 1,466 (35)
Everton 1,423 (37)
Manchester United 1,348 (39)
Took the injuries to mean individuals, could have been one player getting injured 39 times, maybe it should have shown how many players it effected. But dont really think that Sky made such a big thing of it
Manchester United suffered the most injuries of any Premier League side last season, a study has revealed.

Louis van Gaal's side had a total of 39 players sidelined throughout the campaign, but the club still managed a top four finish in the Premier League.

United suffered most of their injuries in the first third of the season as Van Gaal struggled to adapt to the English top flight in his first season in charge, but last-day survivors Newcastle lost the most days through injury with a staggering 1,871, a total 405 days higher than second-place Arsenal.

It was their main story at one point, if that isn't making a big deal out of it I don't know what is.

But yeah, the study should have shown how many individual players succumbed to injury.

But I always wonder how they gather this information anyway. Surely most of it must just be guess work based on official team news and reports etc.

Or does our physio log all injuries somewhere?
 

alexis

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It was their main story at one point, if that isn't making a big deal out of it I don't know what is.

But yeah, the study should have shown how many individual players succumbed to injury.

But I always wonder how they gather this information anyway. Surely most of it must just be guess work based on official team news and reports etc.

Or does our physio log all injuries somewhere?
would it imagine its a KPI of the clubs fitness teams and so they do record it
 

EQP

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So very impressed by the physios and sports science team. They've found that happy medium of recovering the players in a short time and still allowing room for Poch and co to increase the workload and keep the up tempo style.
 

Trix

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So very impressed by the physios and sports science team. They've found that happy medium of recovering the players in a short time and still allowing room for Poch and co to increase the workload and keep the up tempo style.


Worth mentioning an awful lot of this is down to Baldini. Revolution was required on many levels behind the scenes, and he was the driving force behind most of it.












* And no he didn't buy Soldado, Paulino or sodding Capoue*
 

yankspurs

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Worth mentioning an awful lot of this is down to Baldini. Revolution was required on many levels behind the scenes, and he was the driving force behind most of it.












* And no he didn't buy Soldado, Paulino or sodding Capoue*
Wow. Between this and the scouting overhaul, it's like Baldini made us into a professional footballing outfit. Which does not fit the narrative bandied by fans who are convinced the Bale window is entirely his fault, and the one by Levy who essentially threw the blame Baldini's way during the board to board meetings with THST
 

EQP

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Haven't update this thread in a while but wanted to give (y)(y)(y)(y) to the fitness staff. I was looking at several pre-season pics and saw two pieces of equipment that are amazing and very applicable to sports performance.

One was the Exxentric Kbox
http://exxentric.com/equipment/

and the other was the

Nordbord Hamstring Testing System (which you can see Janssen using on the OS in his pics)

http://valdperformance.com/

I have used the Kbox and it was :eek: eccentric training is a great way to prevent injury and improve performance. I have only read about the Norbord and most journals/reviews are overwhelmingly positive about it use and function.
 

nicdic

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Haven't update this thread in a while but wanted to give (y)(y)(y)(y) to the fitness staff. I was looking at several pre-season pics and saw two pieces of equipment that are amazing and very applicable to sports performance.

One was the Exxentric Kbox
http://exxentric.com/equipment/

and the other was the

Nordbord Hamstring Testing System (which you can see Janssen using on the OS in his pics)

http://valdperformance.com/

I have used the Kbox and it was :eek: eccentric training is a great way to prevent injury and improve performance. I have only read about the Norbord and most journals/reviews are overwhelmingly positive about it use and function.
Can you explain what each of them do?
 

EQP

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Can you explain what each of them do?

Nordbord Hamstring Testing System

Test hamstrings ? :D:D:D

:D Apologies @nicdic was busy daydreaming about how these new devices will help us win the league, champs league and World Cup :Di will post an extensive breakdown on what they do and how they can improve our players.

@Spursidol ever thought about a career in sports medicine? :LOL:
 

EQP

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courtesy of @nicdic in the Marcus Edwards thread

Here is young Marcus using the Flywheel/ “kBox” by Exxentric

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How it works:
Simply put, a flywheel is a mechanical wheel that stores rotational energy.

Using harnesses and various handles and attachments, the kBox user applies concentric force to a strap coiled around a shaft that is fixed to the axis of up to four steel flywheels. The torque generated causes the flywheel to accelerate, and collect kinetic energy. When the strap fully uncoils, the moment of inertia of the flywheel causes the strap to wind back up, requiring a large eccentric force to decelerate the wheel. The flywheel will eventually stop and a large concentric force is required to get it started again.


Variable Resistance.
Flywheel training allows the athlete to experience multiple levels of resistance in one set without having to stop and switch out weights or dumbbells. The more torque you apply to the flywheel the more resistance you experience. This variable resistance also allows for every rep to be maximal, despite any fatigue accumulated throughout a set. You may be producing less force but you are still putting 100% of effort into the rep to move the wheel.

Eccentric Overload.
At the top of the lift, as the strap begins to recoil and the moment of inertia of the flywheel is at its greatest, choosing to decelerate in a shorter period of time than it took to generate concentric force necessitates a much higher eccentric force. Therefore, each rep adheres to the different force generating capabilities of both the concentric and eccentric muscle actions. In other words, when squatting on a kBox, stand up as hard as you can in the concentric phase and as hard as you can, try to resist the strap from pulling you back down in the eccentric phase

  • Eccentric strength plays a significant role in the prevention of hamstring injuries
Note:
The evidence that flywheel training has a positive effect on preventing hamstring injuries has potential but is incomplete. This is especially true because much of the research is still on single joint movements like the YoYo Leg Curl. Little is known right now about the effect a device like the kBox has on preventing hamstring strains in athletes, however, the theoretical implications are definitely positive.


Courtesy of

http://fitforfutbol.com/2015/07/sni...juries-part-2-by-brian-guilmette-cscs-sccc-2/
 

EQP

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That actually looks painful.

I just used it recently, it is not so bad. If you tight hamstrings it can be really taxing. Nordic hamstring curls are actually are coming into the forefront as the preferred way to strengthen hamstrings.
 

donny1013

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Poch is a big believer in player mechanics. I've mentioned on here before that Dele barely kicked a ball when he first joined and the focus was more on his physicality. Wanyama was also 'slimmed' down after joining, although still a beast, they wanted him to shift some weight up top to improve mobility. Most injuries last season came in game situations and were knocks rather than players pulling up, a lot of that is down the Poch's philosophies and medical staff/sports scientists.
 
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