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You don't need stats. Rose was utter shit, we bought Davies, Rose has looked increasingly good ever since. Don't cry into all those hankies, you may want one to wank into later on.

He was actually very good at the start of the season.

Then two things happened. I wonder what they could be? He also finished the season as one of our best defenders.

Just because you can't be arsed to engage your brain and ask why something happens, doesn't mean our promising players should suffer.
 

weststandvoice

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He was actually very good at the start of the season.

Then two things happened. I wonder what they could be? He also finished the season as one of our best defenders.

Just because you can't be arsed to engage your brain and ask why something happens, doesn't mean our promising players should suffer.

If you think he finished the season as one of our best defenders, you need your head examined :headphone:
 

Dharmabum

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http://www.walesonline.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/swansea-city-v-tottenham-hotspur-8283150?

Swansea City v Tottenham Hotspur: Ben Davies' transition to Spurs regular amazed me, says Garry Monk
'When I first saw him in the Swans reserves I didn't think too much of him,' says Monk ahead of Davies' reunion with his old club

Garry Monk has revealed he wasn’t sure Ben Davies was going to cut it when he first clapped eyes on him – but is now certain he’ll be a Tottenham Hotspur hit.

Davies was a tentative teenager thrust onto a pre-season tour to America just two-and-a-half years ago, not long after Swans skipper Monk first met the Neath talent.

And while the left-back showed why he had been offered a first professional contract by former boss Brendan Rodgers, Monk maintains it wasn’t obvious the defender was destined for the top.

Yet the current Swans boss reckons the strides Davies has made since that first taste of senior football have been better than he’s ever witnessed, and claims the Wales international isn’t finished yet.

Davies was lured from the Liberty after Tottenham made him a £10m target in the summer – an interest that eventually paved the way for a successful swap deal to bring Gylfi Sigurdsson back to the Liberty.

And despite taking his time to show his worth to the White Hart Lane faithful, Monk is adamant the 23-year-old will not only show Spurs fans why he’s regarded as one of the finest players recently produced by Swansea, but go onto even bigger things.

“I have been amazed at Ben’s development in such a short space of time,” said Monk, ahead of Davies’ return to his boyhood club in today’s televised Swansea showdown with Spurs.

“I remember him as kid playing in reserves and, I’ll be 100 per cent honest, I didn’t think too much of him in terms of him being a star. I certainly never thought he’d be as good as he is now.

“But from the moment he came away on pre-season tour with us, and then starting the season after Neil Taylor’s injury, his transition was just incredible. How much he took on so quickly and at such a young age was amazing.

“In all my years I haven’t seen that happen with many young players at all and credit to him for that. His consistency was amazing and you have to that as a defender at the top level; to get that so quickly when you have never experienced any league football at any level was unbelievable.

“It just shows what a talent he is and it made a very hard decision for me to make last summer with the deal for Gylfi. We didn’t want him to go but it was a decision we made and we know he will make it at Tottenham and then go onto even bigger things after that.”

Davies was an astonishing find from Swansea as he effortlessly coped with the step-up in class following Taylor’s near season-ending injury in September 2012, his composed talent on the ball coupled with a grounded and hard-working mentality setting him up to establish himself as one of the best young defensive talents in the Premier League.

And after taking advantage of the unfortunate injury opportunity to Taylor, Davies has now made the most of Danny Rose’s recent absence to force his way into Mauricio Pochettino’s Premier plans having been largely restricted to Europa League experience this term.

The 21-cap ace is set to keep his place for today’s clash, a game Swansea fan Davies admits will be emotional.

But his slow start to showcase his talents that also had Rodgers interested in taking him to Liverpool over the close season had given early suggestions Swansea would offer him a loan return in the January window or afterwards.

Yet Monk said: “He will make it there and that’s what we want to see because he’s a great lad who has Swansea in his heart.

“It was difficult for us to let him go because he was home grown, he had come through the system and it is always good for the club to keep hold of those players because the fans can see them emerging.

“But the decision was there to be made and it was a very good move for Ben in his career.

“He didn’t get early games there but that might have been to do with settling in – that often happens with players – but in recent weeks he seems to have become first choice and that proves he is doing the right things in training and for the manager.

“I’m sure Ben will be fine. He is developing all the time and will be a great Tottenham player for years to come.”

Still, while Monk had planned for a future with Davies, he admitted he didn’t hesitate when the chance came to bring in Sigurdsson as part of the July deal, not only with the knowledge that Taylor would step in for his compatriot but with the confidence of what the assist ace Iceman could do for the Swans.

Adding he was surprised Spurs were prepared to let such a creative kingpin leave the Lane for the Liberty, Monk said: “You weight up each situation and deal as you see it.

“I look at my squad and see what we want and with that deal it was a case of needing something more than something else.

“We lost Ben and Michel Vorm, two players who had been fantastic for the club, but I knew we were bringing in Lukaz Fabianski and with Gylfi I wanted the attacking option more than the extra defender.

“It was a good move for Ben and people can talk whether it was too early for him but I was looking at what was best for my team and went with that.

“We knew we already had Neil, a very good defender, and there was a little bit of surprise Gylfi was available because we knew what a good player he is.

“When I heard there was a chance he was available I spoke to him and he was very keen to come here and that makes the decision in your mind. He is not a player who thinks it's a step down, he was hungry to come here so that makes my mind up. It wasn’t just about his position but his desire.”

While Monk is keen for a good reception for both Davies and Vorm on their returns today, his priority is for an improved Swansea performance than offered up against West Ham a week ago.

And the rookie boss knows he will need Sigurdsson at his best in the battle of the old boys as he warned Spurs are ready to get it right under Pochettino, saying: “I have spoken to a lot of people who know him well and he’s obviously a good manager.

“Spurs are in transition as he has to get to know what his squad is like – and Spurs have a big squad. In the coming windows there will be more changes I’m sure and then he’ll get it right and get them playing the way he wants.

“But I still think they’re doing okay. You expect them to be fighting for the top four immediately because that’s what they’ve been doing for the last few years but I am sure they will pick up soon and we know this will be a very tough game.”
 

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Gary Monk has enraged Spurs fans by suggesting they are a stepping stone club.

The Swansea boss believes Ben Davies is sure to move onto bigger things than the North London club, and stirred up the game before the 2 teams meet today.

Monk said: “It just shows what a talent he is and it made a very hard decision for me to make last summer with the deal for Gylfi. We didn’t want him to go but it was a decision we made and we know he will make it at Tottenham and then go onto even bigger things after that.”

Mauricio Pochetinno is said to be livid at the Swansea boss labelling Tottenham as a selling club.

This comes just a few days after former Tottenham player and coach, Les Ferdinand admitted that the club's tactics is to push their players, such as Moussa Dembele, to aim to play for Real Madrid so the club can earn extra revenue.

Sir Les said: “We used to say to him: ‘You're the next person to go to Real Madrid, you're the next guy to go to Real Madrid from this club."

Source: The Dontcallme Express - The world's first bi-annual newspaper.
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Dharmabum

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He was totally lost on Swansea's goal though - and I mean totally! Why on earth didn't he track Routledge rather than move into the penalty box leaving Routledge with acres of space :confused:
 

beats1

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I wonder if peoples hatred of rose is clouding their judgement

He made a great tackle to save a goal but he was out of position in the first place then the goal was his fault but he has got no blame or hate aimed at him
 

guate

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Davies has come on in leaps and bounds in my book and I now far prefer him at left back than Rose whose cavalier approach can produce some spectacular moments (re goal against arse anal) but also quite often leaves us weak in the defending department.
 

theShiznit

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I wonder if peoples hatred of rose is clouding their judgement

He made a great tackle to save a goal but he was out of position in the first place then the goal was his fault but he has got no blame or hate aimed at him
A good give and go will beat any defender as the goer is controlling the starter pistol...
He still should have reacted better but wouldn't have made a difference.

Vertonghen did nothing though, just stood in no mans land. Didn't engage Routledge or drop into a place to cut off the cross.

His pass into Eriksen was perfect and not easy as a bouncing ball.

What about Routledge? He is such an intelligent player now how many clever passes and throughballs today, so much more of a football brain than Lennon, if he was as quick as Lennon he'd have been an England fixture for many a year.
 

Syn_13

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I wonder if peoples hatred of rose is clouding their judgement

He made a great tackle to save a goal but he was out of position in the first place then the goal was his fault but he has got no blame or hate aimed at him

I think people are a little hard on Rose. I'm pretty much 'meh' with him. I don't hate him, he has flaws and his character comes across as being a bit crap, but I think he does certain things well.

Davies is still learning, and shows promise, but I don't think he's any better than Rose. They're about the same right now. I think the problem is that we've got two left backs that are of squad player quality rather than first team quality. It's not a terrible thing though as they can push each other.
 

beats1

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I think people are a little hard on Rose. I'm pretty much 'meh' with him. I don't hate him, he has flaws and his character comes across as being a bit crap, but I think he does certain things well.

Davies is still learning, and shows promise, but I don't think he's any better than Rose. They're about the same right now. I think the problem is that we've got two left backs that are of squad player quality rather than first team quality. It's not a terrible thing though as they can push each other.
The issue is Rose is insanely inconsistent and goes from one extreme to another and worth noting rose is also learning more so than Davies, as he has only been a LB for 2 full season

I agree about 2 squad lb's
 

sparx100

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I like him. Yes he should have done better for their goal but what a tackle on Bony - it was Ledley-esque.

Also that ball into Eriksen for the second goal was superb.
 
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