Tottenham Vs Man United: Match Thread

[littlewilly]

Thanks for that.

I do of course remember what he did to Tony Galvin in the 1982 Milk Cup final.

He gets a great deal of criticism as a "hard man" (some would put it less diplomatically), yet we revere the likes of Graham Roberts because he was one of our own. I think the things we've pilloried him for over the years would instead be the stuff of legends had he remained a Tottenham player.

 

[spursfan77]

Only just realised he bought nkoudou on instead of sissoko near the end. Probably means nothing......or something?

 

[Sweetsman]

He's gone. When the truth is out i don't blame the Club one bit.

He didn't think Levy would find it funny if he held his head in a headlock and gave it a rub, did he?

 

[TheChosenOne]

Thanks for that.

I do of course remember what he did to Tony Galvin in the 1982 Milk Cup final.

*Edited* No problems.
http://hotspurhq.com/2014/03/13/tottenham-day-spurs-lose-liverpool-league-cup-final/

 

[danielneeds]

Some truth there but you're confusing two quite different time periods. As a 15/16-year-old he was homesick and went back to Edinburgh but he left Tottenham permanently several years later.

Graeme's view was that he was a better player than Perryman but Bill Nick favoured Perryman. Bear in mind there was only one sub in those days and thus, fewer squad opportunities. He once told me that Perryman was great but he wouldn't get any better as a midfielder but he (Graeme) would. Bigheaded? Not really. Graeme as a young man was superbly talented (think Rooney at 16/17) and he had this pretty realistic view that he would become a great player. Eddie Baily though was particularly harsh and dismissive. Graeme was intelligent and articulate and this got under Eddie’s skin. If you could imagine the complete opposite to Pochettino’s management style, Eddie had it. Foul-mouthed, spitting orders, rare with praise, unsympathetic. It worked with someone like Chivers but not the more sensitive souls like Graeme.

It was so bloody obvious that he was a special talent (he once almost won the FA Youth Cup singlehandedly) and those of us who knew Graeme in those days were absolutely shattered that he was moved on. I admire Bill Nick as much as any Tottenham supporter but he was fallible and this, in my view, was the biggest error he ever made.

I've followed Graeme's career since and constantly think "if only". Perryman was a great favourite and I remember him as an 18-year-old covering every blade of grass at the Lane, then in the second half he would revisit each one. He was a bundle of kinetic energy but, in my view, played with limitations and really didn't progress much from those early days just as Graeme had said. Loyal, committed, enthusiastic, gutsy yes, but not a patch on Graeme Souness in terms of skill and class.

I’ve lost touch with him now but I recall from those days that he wasn’t so much bitter about his brief career with Tottenham, more thrilled that he was now going somewhere where he could play more regularly.

I heard a similar version of Souness' departure from my dad who knew some people at the club around that time.

It's interesting that even though we revere Bill Nic for all he did at the club, nobody's perfect. Knowing when to move established players on and introduce youth is one of the hardest skills for a manager.

Always wandered what could a midfield of Hoddle flanked by Perryman and Souness, to do the dirty stuff, have done...

 

[Ionman34]

I heard a similar version of Souness' departure from my dad who knew some people at the club around that time.

It's interesting that even though we revere Bill Nic for all he did at the club, nobody's perfect. Knowing when to move established players on and introduce youth is one of the hardest skills for a manager.

Always wandered what could a midfield of Hoddle flanked by Perryman and Souness, to do the dirty stuff, have done...

Perryman was a RB throughout his Spurs career, do you mean Roberts?

 

[Spurger King]

I heard a similar version of Souness' departure from my dad who knew some people at the club around that time.

It's interesting that even though we revere Bill Nic for all he did at the club, nobody's perfect. Knowing when to move established players on and introduce youth is one of the hardest skills for a manager.

Always wandered what could a midfield of Hoddle flanked by Perryman and Souness, to do the dirty stuff, have done...

Bill Nic is deservedly a legend, but yeah I think he had his faults like every human. I remember watching a Greaves interview where he was talking about the moments before a big game (possibly a cup final) and apparently Bill Nic was really downbeat and barely gave a team talk. Greaves said the players pretty much had to get themselves motivated to win the game, which they did.

I think it's good to remember these things as it helps to avoid idealising the past. Pochettino will make mistakes too, but what matters is the bigger picture.

 

[danielneeds]

Perryman was a RB throughout his Spurs career, do you mean Roberts?

Yeah - brain fart...

 

[littlewilly]

Perryman was a RB throughout his Spurs career, do you mean Roberts?

With respect, Perryman started life in midfield and formed a brilliant partnership with Mullery. Check this out if you need verification.

http://www.steveperryman.com/playingprofile.htm

 

[riggi]

Perhaps he's turned away from us back to his boyhood love the PED Crew..

I know you're only joking but it's pissing me off the grief he's been getting from some spurs fans over the Leicester support.

 

[tobbi]

Just for you 'tobbi' with yer wtf ..
http://hotspurhq.com/2014/03/13/tottenham-day-spurs-lose-liverpool-league-cup-final/

Apologies if that was me must of clicked it as I was scrolling down,not intended.

 

[TheChosenOne]

Apologies if that was me must of clicked it as I was scrolling down,not intended.

Sorted.

I am actually 'King of the fat fingers'

 

[Ionman34]

With respect, Perryman started life in midfield and formed a brilliant partnership with Mullery. Check this out if you need verification.

http://www.steveperryman.com/playingprofile.htm

I stand corrected, only ever remember him as RB.

You learn something new every day.