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Reece

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There's always a place you can put it where the keeper can't save it. We just happened to not do it 14 times in the same game.

Worrying all the more because we are profligate in nearly every game we play. This is not 'one of those games'.
 

mattstev2000

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Big fan of AVB and think the people calling for his head are nuts but I do wonder about his winger selections. I don't know whether he just believes the media hype about Townsend or is still unwilling the rock the boat after his time at Chelsea but we really need different ideas in those wing positions.

Townsend and Siggy aren't the solution (unless they improve their goals to shots ratio) because they isolate Soldado. Lennon is just as he always is, fast but a bit dumb and lacking in end product.

Based on his performance against Sheriff I can't believe Lamela a) didn't start or b) wasn't brought on quite early.

I'm concerned he worries too much about those sections of the fans that seem to prefer 'local lads' over quality. Screaming out for Defoe to be introduced whenever we need a goal.

JD isn't the answer unless the question is 'I wonder what it would be like to play with 10 men for the remainder of the game?'.
 

CrazyHeart

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Okay, at the risk of getting attacked here I'll come right out and say it. AVB's tactics ARE working - the stats don't lie. The number of shots on goal and waves of fluid attack were signs that we're on the right track. Now before you guys get freaky on me - please consider the fact that AVB's not sitting on the sidelines with a joystick, controlling the feet of each individual player! Face it - Eriksen, Soldado, Paulinho AND Sandro should've scored! AVB has opened the door to glory - it's up to the player to walk right on through... On the flip side, he should've brought on Lamela while starting Sandro (maybe take him off after the first 60mins). Defoe was a highly dubious choice and Townsend needs to stop being such a greedy megalomaniac! There were a lot of positives from the game yesterday and I'm actually looking forward to the back-to-back encounters with the Manchester clubs.
 

Archibald&Crooks

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Okay, at the risk of getting attacked here I'll come right out and say it. AVB's tactics ARE working - the stats don't lie. The number of shots on goal and waves of fluid attack were signs that we're on the right track. Now before you guys get freaky on me - please consider the fact that AVB's not sitting on the sidelines with a joystick, controlling the feet of each individual player! Face it - Eriksen, Soldado, Paulinho AND Sandro should've scored! AVB has opened the door to glory - it's up to the player to walk right on through... On the flip side, he should've brought on Lamela while starting Sandro (maybe take him off after the first 60mins). Defoe was a highly dubious choice and Townsend needs to stop being such a greedy megalomaniac! There were a lot of positives from the game yesterday and I'm actually looking forward to the back-to-back encounters with the Manchester clubs.
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Gbspurs

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Okay, at the risk of getting attacked here I'll come right out and say it. AVB's tactics ARE working - the stats don't lie. The number of shots on goal and waves of fluid attack were signs that we're on the right track. Now before you guys get freaky on me - please consider the fact that AVB's not sitting on the sidelines with a joystick, controlling the feet of each individual player! Face it - Eriksen, Soldado, Paulinho AND Sandro should've scored! AVB has opened the door to glory - it's up to the player to walk right on through... On the flip side, he should've brought on Lamela while starting Sandro (maybe take him off after the first 60mins). Defoe was a highly dubious choice and Townsend needs to stop being such a greedy megalomaniac! There were a lot of positives from the game yesterday and I'm actually looking forward to the back-to-back encounters with the Manchester clubs.

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14/04/91

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The number of shots on goal and waves of fluid attack were signs that we're on the right track.

I agree we're having lots of shots but a huge percentage are from distance.
I disagree about the waves of fluid attacks and I think this is our problem. I could probably count on one hand how many times we cut them open on Sunday - a few times in the 2nd half down our right side when Walker got involved in the final third of the pitch. The obvious one being Eriksen's missed chance.
We have plenty of sideways possession but I'm yet to see 'waves' of attacks.
 

SpursManChris

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If Adebayor was available then it's a disgrace that he was not on the bench. He is one hard done by man. He will only have one thing on his mind now and that's a January transfer. Thanks for joining mate and all the best. He'll be missed in a way.
 

sebcole

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We're on the right track - we were just unlucky in the game, simple as.
If those two shots had gone in would we see the criticisms we are now?
If not, then the blame should lie at the players taking the shots, and anyone can have an off day - they were on target and would have crept in on other days.
 

CrazyHeart

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The only sad thing I have to report is that Adebayor appears to have become AVB's Rebrov.... Talented player who's just been sidelined PERIOD. It's like he's stuck in the Klingon prison moon colony of Ruhra Penthe with little hope of returning!
 

JamieDaCosta

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Taken from another site ; -
Here are some random facts. Read into them what you will.

Fact 1: Sigurdsson/Townsend did not complete a single successful pass to Soldado throughout the entire game.

Fact 2: Of our previous eight defeats, seven of them came directly after a Europa League tie.

Fact 3: Sandro was great against FC Sheriff, but terrible against Hull three days later. Subbed after 45 mins.

Fact 4: Dembele was great against FC Sheriff, but terrible today. Subbed after 45 mins.

Fact 5: Sigurdsson won 20 per cent of his duels today.

Fact 6: Tim Krul played well, but not great. All his saves bar one (Soldado’s flick-on) should have been stopped.

Fact 7: Jermain Defoe played for 15 minutes and touched the ball twice.

Fact 8: Townsend has had 41 shots at goal this season and scored one goal (a cross).

Fact 9: Spurs have yet to win a game at home this season after falling behind.

Fact 10: Spurs have scored 34 goals in 25 games at home under AVB. Average: 1.36 per game.

Having just finally got round to watching the highlights from this game (I was at the game but I still wanted to see them) I remembered this post and I can officially confirm that ''fact?'' number 7 is utter bullshit

He touched the ball 4 times in one move leading up to Paulinho's chance (watch it back if need be) and held the ball up better in that one single move than Soldado did the whole match

Whilst not touching the ball many times nor doing little else Defoe STILL looked more dangerous than Soldado did the whole match

Theres a fact for ya :)
 

chris_theo

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Petition to remove this crappy banner!! We had it with West Ham and I think we should take a stand to not have it through this international break!
 

jezz

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Having just finally got round to watching the highlights from this game (I was at the game but I still wanted to see them) I remembered this post and I can officially confirm that ''fact?'' number 7 is utter bullshit

He touched the ball 4 times in one move leading up to Paulinho's chance (watch it back if need be) and held the ball up better in that one single move than Soldado did the whole match

Whilst not touching the ball many times nor doing little else Defoe STILL looked more dangerous than Soldado did the whole match

Theres a fact for ya :)
I take it your not in the Soldado camp then?
 

JamieDaCosta

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I take it your not in the Soldado camp then?

Im not, I wish him nothing but success for us but I just feel he hasnt done enough as yet

People talk about his service but when he has got the service he hasn't delivered and for me, he doesnt do enough off the ball
 

Spurger King

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Im not, I wish him nothing but success for us but I just feel he hasnt done enough as yet

People talk about his service but when he has got the service he hasn't delivered and for me, he doesnt do enough off the ball

For me Soldado is one of the best finishers in top flight football right now, and I was over the moon that we signed him. However I can understand your concerns. For me it's a combination of poor service, and Soldado not adapting well to the Prem so far, so there's no reason why he should be exempt from criticism.

Having said that, I'm convinced that once we sort out our attacking midfielders this guy will be amazing.
 

JamieDaCosta

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For me Soldado is one of the best finishers in top flight football right now, and I was over the moon that we signed him. However I can understand your concerns. For me it's a combination of poor service, and Soldado not adapting well to the Prem so far, so there's no reason why he should be exempt from criticism.

Having said that, I'm convinced that once we sort out our attacking midfielders this guy will be amazing.

Thats a fair comment mate and I hope your belief in him will in some way be good luck for him
 

Spurger King

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Thats a fair comment mate and I hope your belief in him will in some way be good luck for him

I hope so too. As far as I'm concerned you have every right to be concerned about him, and for the record I'm a big fan of Defoe.

I still think that in the right system Soldado will prove to be worth every penny, and the fact that he's not being used correctly isn't his fault, but AVB's.
 

JamieDaCosta

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I hope so too. As far as I'm concerned you have every right to be concerned about him, and for the record I'm a big fan of Defoe.

I still think that in the right system Soldado will prove to be worth every penny, and the fact that he's not being used correctly isn't his fault, but AVB's.

All I want to see from the guy is more determination and fight, if he starts to work his socks off and put himself about then ill be so much more happy with him

Anything else that happens either as a result of that or not is a bonus
 

BorisTM

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The thing that baffled me the most was that for entire first half the sun was right in Krul's eyes and not a single one of our players thought of sending a ball towards the goal, from the left and a bit high. All the shots were low including the free kick that Vertonghen took. My reaction at that moment was "WTF. If even Vertonghen couldn't see it, who I consider to be one of the smartest players in the club, how could anyone else? They were playing like robots, programmed by AVB".
 

CrazyHeart

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The thing that baffled me the most was that for entire first half the sun was right in Krul's eyes and not a single one of our players thought of sending a ball towards the goal, from the left and a bit high. All the shots were low including the free kick that Vertonghen took. My reaction at that moment was "WTF. If even Vertonghen couldn't see it, who I consider to be one of the smartest players in the club, how could anyone else? They were playing like robots, programmed by AVB".

Yes, malfunctioning robots. The goals were all there for the taking, but the players fluffed it. Think about it - if Eriksen, Paulinho and Soldado scored that game, in a 3-1 affair everybody would be cheering the performance. It was the finishing that was the issue not AVB.
 
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