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Tottenham Vs Newcastle: Match Thread

Stavrogin

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Apr 17, 2004
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This is a post from 2010.............we can buy players with the right attitude.We just need good scouts.

I think despite all the names i have mentioned the player that harry shud look to get is Luis Suarez ... he is sensational
Thats the guy I would go for too!
I would also like Diego Costa and let both of them add a little South American magic to our forward line.

This was May 2010.
We could have bought Costa for less than £3m and Suarez for less than £20m.

Yeah but that goes back to my earlier point (though Suarez was a special case as it seems we thought we couldn't fit him into the team) - at those points in time we can sign 'better' players than these. So we frequently do.

If you were manager, would you really chose a young Costa over Soldado in his prime? If you avoid signing a big name player most fans will be furious because in theory they would have been great successes - even though we know that's not always the case.


To his credit, Redknapp bought the right players in that Jan transfer window, it wasn't a case of him just galvalising what was already there (other than the first 4 games). He brought in Palacious, who added some much needed steel into the midfield to toughen us up a bit and brought back Defoe, Chimbonda and Keane who all knew the team the culture and Keane was very competitive and determined and a huge influence off the pitch.

I didn't go into it too much, but I did intend to say that adding a few key players is one of the ways you can galvanize our talented but lacklustre squad.
 

SlunkSoma

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Oct 5, 2004
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Remember that Neville is as brainwashed as any average fan. It's weak and easy analysis.

They kick off, we close down, they lump a ball in between Dier and Kaboul, it falls perfectly for the newcastle player. We probably could have been more ready but we could still have easily conceded that goal. And its very different to the other early goals we've conceded recently which mainly came from horrendous individual errors.

What does Neville know about the culture of the club? A culture that has apparently survived numerous and vastly different management teams, different owners and different squads.

Ultimately it's nothing to do with an ingrained culture throughout the club, it's to do with the kind of players we are able to attract. We can't sign someone like Costa who is talented and ferocious, we sign someone like Soldado who is talented but somewhat meek. These are the best players we can buy - those have some small flaw; courage, physicality, professionalism etc. that prevents them from being world beaters.

We're liable to have a preponderance of these kinds of players and that's where this 'mental weakness' comes from. We seem to have it now. We seemed to have it when Redknapp was appointed but he was able to galvanize that squad and hopefully Pochettino can do the same.

Anyhow, it's all just a reflection of where we are in the pecking order. Not a curse or a fault in our stars. Yes, we're ultimately responsible but do you blame the club for wanting a Soldado instead of a Ricky Lambert? We're a club that needs to roll the dice to advance, naturally we're going to end up losing a lot on the way.

Excellent point, and one that I had been cogitating for a while. We are in limbo as we aren't rich enough to get the great players, but our aims are European football which means we can't afford to cultivate a squad of hungry lesser players to develop an affinity for the club.

We are stuck, attracting decent but undriven players. The players that are driven outgrow us and leave, the players that aren't wallow in the gallows. Dembele for instance, havent heard a peep from him about him never playing. Same with Paulinho. Happy just to roll around Spurs lodge with Aaron Lennon, and collect their wages. Where is the hunger? I tell you where it isn't: on the pitch. We are an anomalous club, in a Europa League purgatory.
 

CosmicHotspur

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Aug 14, 2006
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The only good thing for me about this game is that my nephew, who is a STH, sent me the programme which I wanted purely for the reason that the great man was being honoured on this day. Just a shame we couldn't win for Bill, but none of the players were managed by him or knew him so they really couldn't have understood how Spurs supporters who did know him and appreciate him felt about it and wanted it to be a really good day.

Nice surprise was that the programme was autographed on the front cover by Pat Jennings, Phil Beal, Martin Chivers, Mark Falco, Paul Allen and Alan Mullery.
 

Metalhead

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Gary Neville just ripped into us on Monday Night Football. Rightly so I might add.

Basically said that Newcastle first goal is the type of goal we are always likely to concede. We are never ready at kick offs, mentally weak and that the entire culture at the clubs needs to be changed. He said Pochettino needs at least 2-3 years to get clean house of those with a poor attitude.
I read that and yes, it's hard to disagree with his summary.
 

OnTheUp

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More results like this and there's no way Poch will be in the job 2-3 years down the line. Why did we change manager if he can't do better than the one before?
 
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