Tottenham Vs Newcastle: Match Thread

[THFCSPURS19]

Gary Neville just ripped into us on Monday Night Football. Rightly so I might add.

Basically said that Newcastle first goal is the type of goal we are always likely to concede. We are never ready at kick offs, mentally weak and that the entire culture at the clubs needs to be changed. He said Pochettino needs at least 2-3 years to get clean house of those with a poor attitude.

I was too scared to watch it. But he's completely right.

 

[THFCSPURS19]

Mason getting flak now while Lamela gets off scot-free?! Haha that's so bad it's laughable.

Lamela hasn't got off scot-free. It's a complete lie- loads of people (including me) have said that he was shite yesterday.

 

[JUSTINSIGNAL]

Gary Neville just ripped into us on Monday Night Football. Rightly so I might add.

Basically said that Newcastle first goal is the type of goal we are always likely to concede. We are never ready at kick offs, mentally weak and that the entire culture at the clubs needs to be changed. He said Pochettino needs at least 2-3 years to get clean house of those with a poor attitude.

Spot on.

 

[THFCSPURS19]

Gary Neville just ripped into us on Monday Night Football. Rightly so I might add.

Basically said that Newcastle first goal is the type of goal we are always likely to concede. We are never ready at kick offs, mentally weak and that the entire culture at the clubs needs to be changed. He said Pochettino needs at least 2-3 years to get clean house of those with a poor attitude.

Brutal:

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[thinktank]

Brutal:

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But fair.

And true.

The players should be made to watch that on loop for 24hrs, no breaks.

 

[THFCSPURS19]

But fair.

And true.

The players should be made to watch that on loop for 24hrs, no breaks.

I didn't see it but he seems to have suggested that the 'weakness' was something he'd always associated Tottenham with. I think that's a little unfair but since collapses from 10-11 onwards, he definitely not wrong overall.

 

[L-man]

Gary Neville just ripped into us on Monday Night Football. Rightly so I might add.

Basically said that Newcastle first goal is the type of goal we are always likely to concede. We are never ready at kick offs, mentally weak and that the entire culture at the clubs needs to be changed. He said Pochettino needs at least 2-3 years to get clean house of those with a poor attitude.

3-4 years ago and we'd have a huge thread arguing against Neville, calling him an idiot and how we're this big club fighting for and playing Champions League.

Cold hard truth is there isn't even a single point there we can contest and it's so disheartening considering how close we could have been to title challengers a few years ago

 

[nidge]

I didn't see it but he seems to have suggested that the 'weakness' was something he'd always associated Tottenham with. I think that's a little unfair but since collapses from 10-11 onwards, he definitely not wrong overall.

For almost as long as I can remember we have always been seen as mentally weak and a bit of a soft touch. One example of the top of my head is the FA Cup replay at home to Man City. At half time we are winning 3-0 and City have Joey Barton sent off yet we end up losing 3-4.

 

[nidge]

3-4 years ago and we'd have a huge thread arguing against Neville, calling him an idiot and how we're this big club fighting for and playing Champions League.

Cold hard truth is there isn't even a single point there we can contest and it's so disheartening considering how close we could have been to title challengers a few years ago

I think we were a world class manager away from being title contenders with the players we had when we finished 4th for the first time and then the second time we finished 4th when we were 3rd and 8 points clear of Arsenal in 4th and Chelsea then managed to win the CL to take a second season in the CL from us.

 

[VegasII]

The old Palace manager Alan Smith once described Tottenham as 'Milky'.

I'd say we're wanky but he was right. But then we've nearly always been like this. Even when Gooner Graham had us playing with 10 defenders every week we'd still fuck it up.

Funny though, Toon have done this to us before. Remember Keegan's Newcastle (2nd Keegan spell) beating us 4-1 at the lane a few years back. We had about 25 shots on goal that game and we got tanked. I think back in 2009 we played Blackburn off the park at Ewood only to lose 2-1. Didn't we have about 20 shots at Krul last season only to lose to a Remy goal?

Yet we've been to Toon land and beaten then 4-0 under Sherwood.

Football is weird.

 

[THFCSPURS19]

And has been in pretty much every league game.

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[haydsmith]

Mason, by the way, was excellent first half. I suppose people will probably find a way to have a go at him. No doubt blaming Sherwood.

 

[scottlag10]

The home defeat has nothing to do with it. If you were at the game or even watched it, the manner of the defeat is simply unacceptable from a so called professional football team. An embarrassment of riches that if i was coach the players would be watching in it's entirety before training on Tuesday begins.

I know we never agree but I'm certain you didn't mean 'too much of a good thing'!

 

[Stavrogin]

Gary Neville just ripped into us on Monday Night Football. Rightly so I might add.

Basically said that Newcastle first goal is the type of goal we are always likely to concede. We are never ready at kick offs, mentally weak and that the entire culture at the clubs needs to be changed. He said Pochettino needs at least 2-3 years to get clean house of those with a poor attitude.

Remember that Neville is as brainwashed as any average fan. It's weak and easy analysis.

They kick off, we close down, they lump a ball in between Dier and Kaboul, it falls perfectly for the newcastle player. We probably could have been more ready but we could still have easily conceded that goal. And its very different to the other early goals we've conceded recently which mainly came from horrendous individual errors.

What does Neville know about the culture of the club? A culture that has apparently survived numerous and vastly different management teams, different owners and different squads.

Ultimately it's nothing to do with an ingrained culture throughout the club, it's to do with the kind of players we are able to attract. We can't sign someone like Costa who is talented and ferocious, we sign someone like Soldado who is talented but somewhat meek. These are the best players we can buy - those have some small flaw; courage, physicality, professionalism etc. that prevents them from being world beaters.

We're liable to have a preponderance of these kinds of players and that's where this 'mental weakness' comes from. We seem to have it now. We seemed to have it when Redknapp was appointed but he was able to galvanize that squad and hopefully Pochettino can do the same.

Anyhow, it's all just a reflection of where we are in the pecking order. Not a curse or a fault in our stars. Yes, we're ultimately responsible but do you blame the club for wanting a Soldado instead of a Ricky Lambert? We're a club that needs to roll the dice to advance, naturally we're going to end up losing a lot on the way.

 

[riggi]

http://www.insidefutbol.com/2014/10...manchester-united-legend-gary-neville/168086/

 

[riggi]

Gary Neville just ripped into us on Monday Night Football. Rightly so I might add.

Basically said that Newcastle first goal is the type of goal we are always likely to concede. We are never ready at kick offs, mentally weak and that the entire culture at the clubs needs to be changed. He said Pochettino needs at least 2-3 years to get clean house of those with a poor attitude.

Just watched it. Wince a plenty.

 

[stemark44]

Remember that Neville is as brainwashed as any average fan. It's weak and easy analysis.

They kick off, we close down, they lump a ball in between Dier and Kaboul, it falls perfectly for the newcastle player. We probably could have been more ready but we could still have easily conceded that goal. And its very different to the other early goals we've conceded recently which mainly came from horrendous individual errors.

What does Neville know about the culture of the club? A culture that has apparently survived numerous and vastly different management teams, different owners and different squads.

Ultimately it's nothing to do with an ingrained culture throughout the club, it's to do with the kind of players we are able to attract. We can't sign someone like Costa who is talented and ferocious, we sign someone like Soldado who is talented but somewhat meek. These are the best players we can buy - those have some small flaw; courage, physicality, professionalism etc. that prevents them from being world beaters.

We're liable to have a preponderance of these kinds of players and that's where this 'mental weakness' comes from. We seem to have it now. We seemed to have it when Redknapp was appointed but he was able to galvanize that squad and hopefully Pochettino can do the same.

Anyhow, it's all just a reflection of where we are in the pecking order. Not a curse or a fault in our stars. Yes, we're ultimately responsible but do you blame the club for wanting a Soldado instead of a Ricky Lambert? We're a club that needs to roll the dice to advance, naturally we're going to end up losing a lot on the way.

↑This is a post from 2010.............we can buy players with the right attitude.We just need good scouts.

I think despite all the names i have mentioned the player that harry shud look to get is Luis Suarez ... he is sensational
Thats the guy I would go for too!
I would also like Diego Costa and let both of them add a little South American magic to our forward line.

This was May 2010.
We could have bought Costa for less than £3m and Suarez for less than £20m.

 

[prawnsandwich]

The old Palace manager Alan Smith once described Tottenham as 'Milky'.

Yet we've been to Toon land and beaten then 4-0 under Sherwood.

Wonder what the old Palace manager Pulis thinks of our performances?

 

[prawnsandwich]

Meat man feeds me more spam. I have loads of tins he gave me already in the larder!!

 

[spurs9]

Remember that Neville is as brainwashed as any average fan. It's weak and easy analysis.

They kick off, we close down, they lump a ball in between Dier and Kaboul, it falls perfectly for the newcastle player. We probably could have been more ready but we could still have easily conceded that goal. And its very different to the other early goals we've conceded recently which mainly came from horrendous individual errors.

What does Neville know about the culture of the club? A culture that has apparently survived numerous and vastly different management teams, different owners and different squads.

Ultimately it's nothing to do with an ingrained culture throughout the club, it's to do with the kind of players we are able to attract. We can't sign someone like Costa who is talented and ferocious, we sign someone like Soldado who is talented but somewhat meek. These are the best players we can buy - those have some small flaw; courage, physicality, professionalism etc. that prevents them from being world beaters.

We're liable to have a preponderance of these kinds of players and that's where this 'mental weakness' comes from. We seem to have it now. We seemed to have it when Redknapp was appointed but he was able to galvanize that squad and hopefully Pochettino can do the same.

Anyhow, it's all just a reflection of where we are in the pecking order. Not a curse or a fault in our stars. Yes, we're ultimately responsible but do you blame the club for wanting a Soldado instead of a Ricky Lambert? We're a club that needs to roll the dice to advance, naturally we're going to end up losing a lot on the way.

To his credit, Redknapp bought the right players in that Jan transfer window, it wasn't a case of him just galvalising what was already there (other than the first 4 games). He brought in Palacious, who added some much needed steel into the midfield to toughen us up a bit and brought back Defoe, Chimbonda and Keane who all knew the team the culture and Keane was very competitive and determined and a huge influence off the pitch.