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UEFA plan major Champions League reform

RichieS

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Is there a European Players' Union? There's surely got to be a point where players themselves stand up and say enough is enough in terms of the demand placed on them by ever increasing numbers of games?
 

Marty

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Is there a European Players' Union? There's surely got to be a point where players themselves stand up and say enough is enough in terms of the demand placed on them by ever increasing numbers of games?
It's supposedly FIFPro's job. Never hear a peep from them about any of this though.
 

Marty

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That's disappointing. Tottenham being in the European Super League will definitely be another nail in the coffin of my love for this sport.
It's extremely disappointing.

What I really don't think the clubs are considering at all is how many fans would stop giving a toss not just because of the principle of the breakaway, I think they have to be aware of the pushback against that so have to bargain on new (likely overseas) fans cancelling out the ones who fall away, but how many fans who stay will get tired of the team traveling round Europe getting hammered every game.

Someone has to finish bottom, some have to finish mid table. You're taking teams who's fans are used to winning (obviously Spurs are a massive exception there) and giving them a much smaller chance of silverware and a much larger chance for a dreadful and boring season where your team is beaten more often than not.

If Juve have two or three seasons near the bottom, what will their fans think then? If the fans stop caring and stop going to games because Juve can't compete with the cash cows, will Agnelli still think this was a good idea?

There are so many many ways this could go extremely wrong and only very very few ways it can be a success. I'm frankly devastated Spurs have signed up for this even if it most likely is just a way to put more pressure on UEFA to get on with the Swiss model plans (which is also a terrible idea).
 

Syn_13

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It's extremely disappointing.

What I really don't think the clubs are considering at all is how many fans would stop giving a toss not just because of the principle of the breakaway, I think they have to be aware of the pushback against that so have to bargain on new (likely overseas) fans cancelling out the ones who fall away, but how many fans who stay will get tired of the team traveling round Europe getting hammered every game.

Someone has to finish bottom, some have to finish mid table. You're taking teams who's fans are used to winning (obviously Spurs are a massive exception there) and giving them a much smaller chance of silverware and a much larger chance for a dreadful and boring season where your team is beaten more often than not.

If Juve have two or three seasons near the bottom, what will their fans think then? If the fans stop caring and stop going to games because Juve can't compete with the cash cows, will Agnelli still think this was a good idea?

There are so many many ways this could go extremely wrong and only very very few ways it can be a success. I'm frankly devastated Spurs have signed up for this even if it most likely is just a way to put more pressure on UEFA to get on with the Swiss model plans (which is also a terrible idea).

Fully agree. Some teams are just going to come out bad for it and we're very much in that group. We struggle in our domestic to get into the top 4, so we'll end up just being whipping boys. I wouldn't find it entertaining at all and it devalues the awe and grandeur of top competitions like the Champions Legaue. Beating Real Madrid was a superb memory due to how special it is to face them in the CL format.

Also, people from mixed cultural backgrounds like myself may find themselves with a clash of interests. As an Anglo-Italian Spurs/Juve fan I don't want to see them competing regularly. Fine in a European cup as it happens rarely and I just take a neutral stance and support whoever progresses, but in league format I'd be conflicted.
 

yawa

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That's disappointing. Tottenham being in the European Super League will definitely be another nail in the coffin of my love for this sport.

The last year couple of seasons of watching Tottenham has done a pretty good job of that.

Joking aside this just one of many of the big clubs avoiding FFP and making sure no smaller clubs can climb the ranks.

I genuinely can’t see myself being that interested in football in 5 years time.
 

Norgie

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