Using something similar to an NFL Salary Cap

[Eden]

Sorry for another post, I am going to keep this one short and to the point.

I was thinking about this and I know it won’t happen but it would make football a lot more of a competition. In the NFL every team has the same amount of money they can spend a year and if they go over the cap there is a massive penalty. It is different to football as money in the NFL is all player contracts as there is no buying players from other teams. (Extremely Rare) I am not going to go deeper into explaining it but you get the gist.

Anyway, I think this would be great for football (not a chance it happens), imagine the premier league, given how competitive it is already, being even more competitive. Let’s say the cap is around 100 million for each team to spend on transfers. First it would mean teams would be less likely to sell their top players. It would mean having a higher value of the youth academy and as a result of that, more young English talent coming through which would be brilliant. Success will be more influenced by how good your coaching is instead of what prince owns your club and how much money does he want to spend. (Joking... kinda lol) Also players and clubs will still be earning a large amount of money from sponsors so it’s not like it affects the players in a massive way, it just stops teams like City and PSG from buying the league. It would be a good for football overall.

Just a silly idea, would like to hear your thoughts, I am sure there is a few issues with it.

 

[robin09]

The NFL model would be 'fairer'. But the big european footie teams would never vote for economic parity, and without the big teams being on board, nothing changes.

 

[JimmyG2]

My first job as World Football Czar
is to impose sanity
Transfer funds and wages capped,
Transfers on Xmas day only
seat prices pegged at 1999 levels
Quotas on foreign players
and ban on foreign owners
(not foreign managers obviously)
and minimum of three own grown on every teamsheet,
and I mean starters not bench warmers.

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[WalkerboyUK]

Would never happen due to European Freedom of Movement laws.
The moment a salary cap is introduced you are effectively trying to restrict what a player can earn and where they can earn it.
It also wouldn't stop smaller clubs losing their players to bigger clubs.
Could you seriously give Bournemouth and Man Utd the same wage budget?
If you say yes to that, say at £100 million per year for transfers alone, who is providing that money??
United have an average attendance of 75,000 compared to 10,500 at Bournemouth.
Bournemouth have no way to spend £100 million when their income is small.
If you implemented a salary cap you'd see more clubs go bankrupt.

 

[WorcesterTHFC]

Even if they introduced salary caps, clubs would pay players in real estate, fine art, vintage cars and other gifts, plus a whole load of other stuff they would pay clever accountants and tax advisors to handle. it would be good for the game to make the playing field a bit more level, but it will never happen, unfortunately.

 

[Trix]

It won't and can't work due to relegation and promotion. The last thing I want to see happen is for us to Americanise football is any way shape or form. You bring in salary caps and everything else has to change as well.

 

[dtxspurs]

It won't and can't work due to relegation and promotion. The last thing I want to see happen is for us to Americanise football is any way shape or form. You bring in salary caps and everything else has to change as well.

I think the biggest thing football could take from other sports is a stopping and starting clock. IMO that would negate stoppage time. As soon as a ball goes out of bounds clock stops, goals scored clock stops until kickoff happens, player wants to fake an injury for 2 minutes, clock stops. The only downside I suppose would be people faking injuries for rest time but they do that now anyways. I've always been interested why this doesn't happen.

 

[Lilbaz]

It has already been voted down by the clubs.
It would be difficult to implement even if they wanted it.
What currency would the wage cap be in? The euro, ok. But what happens if the pound suddenly becomes stronger dragging some clubs wage bills over the cap?
What about monaco where there is no income tax? Is it fair that their cap would be the same as psg who have to pay pretty high income tax for their players? Etc...

 

[Trix]

I think the biggest thing football could take from other sports is a stopping and starting clock. IMO that would negate stoppage time. As soon as a ball goes out of bounds clock stops, goals scored clock stops until kickoff happens, player wants to fake an injury for 2 minutes, clock stops. The only downside I suppose would be people faking injuries for rest time but they do that now anyways. I've always been interested why this doesn't happen.

If they brought that in they would have to change the length of the games. 90 minutes of non stop running is too long now add on another half an hour of extra time. Sorry but there is absolutely nothing I'd want to bring in from American sports. It works for them but football is different. It's a world wide game, not just one league.

 

[dtxspurs]

If they brought that in they would have to change the length of the games. 90 minutes of non stop running is too long now add on another half an hour of extra time. Sorry but there is absolutely nothing I'd want to bring in from American sports. It works for them but football is different.

I don't think it would add near as much time as that. If you're opinion is they're necessary breaks to give the players rest I understand that, my thought is that they can still have that rest time but it doesn't effect the amount of time that is actually played. The flopping and time wasting at the end of games simply drives me nuts.

 

[Matecheck]

Even if they introduced salary caps, clubs would pay players in real estate, fine art, vintage cars and other gifts, plus a whole load of other stuff they would pay clever accountants and tax advisors to handle. it would be good for the game to make the playing field a bit more level, but it will never happen, unfortunately.

One would think so, but for some reason, it hasn't happened in the USA. I assume that sanctions if such illegal behaviour came out would be so severe as to prevent anyone risking it. Would be terribly difficult to keep secret. Point deductions/relegation in case of violations would be a very effective disincentive.

 

[chinaman]

My first job as World Football Czar
is to impose sanity
Transfer funds and wages capped,
Transfers on Xmas day only
seat prices pegged at 1999 levels
Quotas on foreign players
and ban on foreign owners
(not foreign managers obviously)
and minimum of three own grown on every teamsheet,
and I mean starters not bench warmers.

Vote for JimmyG2 for Sanity and a more leveller playing field.

You'll get assassinated the very next day.

 

[Trix]

I don't think it would add near as much time as that. If you're opinion is they're necessary breaks to give the players rest I understand that, my thought is that they can still have that rest time but it doesn't effect the amount of time that is actually played. The flopping and time wasting at the end of games simply drives me nuts.

Without actually checking I'd say it was at least 10 minutes, and probably closer to 15+ in most matches. Most throw ins take 10 seconds corners even longer to get men up from the back. Goal kicks the same waiting for everyone to get into position. Then there is the ref talking to players regarding infringements, minor injuries and Substitutions.

 

[Matecheck]

If they brought that in they would have to change the length of the games. 90 minutes of non stop running is too long now add on another half an hour of extra time. Sorry but there is absolutely nothing I'd want to bring in from American sports. It works for them but football is different. It's a world wide game, not just one league.

You're absolutely right. This is one if the changes fifa is thinking about. Statistical analysis has shown that the ball is in play for 60 mins at the moment. Fifas idea is to change the official time to 60 mins but stop the clock whenever the ball is out of play. While it would change nothing about the length of the game, it would mean there is no more incentive to feign injury etc just to take time off the clock.

 

[dtxspurs]

Without actually checking I'd say it was at least 10 minutes, and probably closer to 15+ in most matches. Most throw ins take 10 seconds corners even longer to get men up from the back. Goal kicks the same waiting for everyone to get into position. Then there is the ref talking to players regarding infringements, minor injuries and Substitutions.

Understood, it just drives me crazy seeing goalies take significant time for a goal kick or the ball goes to three different players before a throw in, players fake injuries to take 3 minutes off the clock, etc.

 

[Trix]

You're absolutely right. This is one if the changes fifa is thinking about. Statistical analysis has shown that the ball is in play for 60 mins at the moment. Fifas idea is to change the official time to 60 mins but stop the clock whenever the ball is out of play. While it would change nothing about the length of the game, it would mean there is no more incentive to feign injury etc just to take time off the clock.

Feigning injury is not just about running the clock down. It's also to disrupt the oppositions play and momentum. It wouldn't stop that.

 

[Matecheck]

Feigning injury is not just about running the clock down. It's also to disrupt the oppositions play and momentum. It wouldn't stop that.

Well, that's obvious. But a lot of, probably even most of it, is to run the clock down.

Don't make perfect the enemy of good.: Just because you can't prevent it from slowing momentum, you wouldn't want to stop the time wasting aspect?

 

[Matecheck]

My worry about stopping the clock is that sooner or later someone will want to put TV adverts in that space. Beforead you know it, a simple throw in turns into a 60 second TV timeout.

 

[cwy21]

The reason it works in American leagues is because they are enclosed league systems. The NFL has a monopoly on American football and the MLB, NHL, and NBA have a near monopoly on the best players in the world at their sport.

 

[cwy21]

I think the biggest thing football could take from other sports is a stopping and starting clock. IMO that would negate stoppage time. As soon as a ball goes out of bounds clock stops, goals scored clock stops until kickoff happens, player wants to fake an injury for 2 minutes, clock stops. The only downside I suppose would be people faking injuries for rest time but they do that now anyways. I've always been interested why this doesn't happen.

IFAB has it's PlayFair website which is studying how to improve the laws of the game during the next five years or so. Playing time is a major area of focus and would either be getting more strict on added time or making the game two 30 minute halves where the clock stops each time the ball is out of play.

https://www.play-fair.com/#chapter-2