VAR (Video Assistant Referee)

[Saoirse]

Good article from 538 that talks about wasted time in the World Cup. Through 32 games, the ball was in play for an average of 55 minutes. They also broke down the reason for all the time lost. Turns out it's not VAR that slows down the game, it's just everything else that does.

https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/world-cup-stoppage-time-is-wildly-inaccurate/

Yep. I think there's a pretty strong argument for making football matches 60 minutes, but with the clock stopping whenever the ball's not in play. Eliminates time-wasting immediately.

 

[cwy21]

Yep. I think there's a pretty strong argument for making football matches 60 minutes, but with the clock stopping whenever the ball's not in play. Eliminates time-wasting immediately.

I'm really starting to think we could see it introduced into the laws as an option for professional competitions. Obviously on a Sunday league game when it's just one ref with a wristwatch, we can probably stick with what we have now. But for professional games with scoreboards, I think it would be a decent change. I'd love to see it tested in the League Cup or something.

 

[SandroClegane]

Another excellent job on the Sanchez tackle.

 

[Bus-Conductor]

That South Korea decision was massive. Imagine that was incorrectly ruled offside, Germany then went and got the one goal they needed to win and qualify, putting out another team in the process.

So many times we’ve seen shit like that decide major events.

 

[nailsy]

It would be interesting to rerun the poll at the end of the tournament and see if people have changed their minds.

 

[wirE]

Gone awfully quiet about VAR decisions during the knock-out stages. Don't think VAR was mentioned once last night

 

[Shadydan]

Gone awfully quiet about VAR decisions during the knock-out stages. Don't think VAR was mentioned once last night

Defenders are defending properly it seems.

 

[wirE]

Defenders are defending properly it seems.

So what you are saying is, after Brazil were knocked out there's no need for VAR anymore?

 

[nicdic]

It's amazing how quickly the focus has shifted.

 

[Shadydan]

Where's all the naysayers these days? knew this would happen, people spend all their energy moaning about something new because they're not used to it, when they're finally used to it they spend more energy moaning about something else lol

 

[worcestersauce]

Where's all the naysayers these days? knew this would happen, people spend all their energy moaning about something new because they're not used to it, when they're finally used to it they spend more energy moaning about something else lol

I'm a naysayer and I'm still not convinced, the reason it has gone quiet is because FIFA has told them to keep a low profile and keep their opinions to themselves unless asked, I also think we have got fewer duff referees now, be honest some of them just did what they were told to do rather than make or hold to their decision.
It was also clear that Raheem Sterling was offside for his first chance against Sweden, he knew it but the linesman didn't put up his flag as he is told not to and leave it to var, Sterling then had that on his mind where he wouldn't if it had just been flagged offside and people have also been slagging him off for it since because they don't know that it was offside.

 

[Donki]

Where's all the naysayers these days? knew this would happen, people spend all their energy moaning about something new because they're not used to it, when they're finally used to it they spend more energy moaning about something else lol

Gone quiet because it hasn't been used, once its a mess again I will be back .

 

[SandroClegane]

It was also clear that Raheem Sterling was offside for his first chance against Sweden, he knew it but the linesman didn't put up his flag as he is told not to and leave it to var, Sterling then had that on his mind where he wouldn't if it had just been flagged offside and people have also been slagging him off for it since because they don't know that it was offside.

This is quite a leap to take. If the linesman thought it was offside he would have flagged offside. They definitely didn't say "let any close decisions go to VAR" as that would be ridiculous.

 

[Saoirse]

This is quite a leap to take. If the linesman thought it was offside he would have flagged offside. They definitely didn't say "let any close decisions go to VAR" as that would be ridiculous.

That's exactly what the advice is - if in doubt, don't give the offside, and let VAR check. Otherwise play stops and the chance is gone even if the linesman's wrong.

 

[Archibald&Crooks]

That's exactly what the advice is - if in doubt, don't give the offside, and let VAR check. Otherwise play stops and the chance is gone even if the linesman's wrong.

Exactly

https://news.sky.com/story/world-cu...offside-calls-says-pierluigi-collina-11403051

 

[Shadydan]

I'm a naysayer and I'm still not convinced, the reason it has gone quiet is because FIFA has told them to keep a low profile and keep their opinions to themselves unless asked, I also think we have got fewer duff referees now, be honest some of them just did what they were told to do rather than make or hold to their decision.
It was also clear that Raheem Sterling was offside for his first chance against Sweden, he knew it but the linesman didn't put up his flag as he is told not to and leave it to var, Sterling then had that on his mind where he wouldn't if it had just been flagged offside and people have also been slagging him off for it since because they don't know that it was offside.

That's not the fault of the technology though that's more down to FIFA's directives.

And I think you hit the nail on the head when you said that we've got fewer duff referees when they have been the cause of VAR controversy more than anything, it seems like the ref's and their teams are working together much better now and aren't abusing the system but I've always said that it will take some time to get it right and so it's proving.

 

[cwy21]

That's exactly what the advice is - if in doubt

That's the advice to Sunday league refs. If you are not 100% sure that the player is offside then keep the flag down.

The ARs at the World Cup were instructed that on a close decision where there is a goal scoring opportunity that they should delay putting the flag up until the scoring opportunity happens.

 

['O Zio]

This is quite a leap to take. If the linesman thought it was offside he would have flagged offside. They definitely didn't say "let any close decisions go to VAR" as that would be ridiculous.

Actually that's exactly what they said and they made that clear from the minute the tournament started. It makes complete sense because you can see if a goal is scored and if it is then overturn it if it was offside. That's preferable to stopping the play by flagging, only to find out they were in fact onside but by then the chance is gone and there's nothing you can do about it, you can't award someone a goal that they didn't score just because it turns out they were onside.

 

[teok]

I was reading that people thought that there was way less VAR in the last few games and that it was a concious decision from the officials.

I just think it's just that all the south american teams are out.

 

[Krule]

No VAR for Championship play-off final despite £180m windfall for winner
The EFL has ruled out using video assistant referees (VARs) for the Sky Bet Championship play-off final next month despite the game being billed as the most valuable match in football.

The Times had this article yesterday. I find it simply incredible that VAR is being ignored for such a financially lucrative match. Apparently because it has not been used in any other championship matches they wish to continue with the same protocol.