Villa appoint Tim Sherwood as manager

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How childish!
I'm not even going to research the results, but I expect I'd find Poch (who I really like) lost to arse and chavs in his first encounters (his first 1/2 season) same as Sherwood.
Why is it childish? Because I pointed out something that went against your contention? It's MP's first half season at Spurs, for the record.
 

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While I'm at it, check out this infamous interview after we lost to Chelsea when most people probably formed their opinion that Sherwood was an embarrassment in front of the media.

He pointed out that too many of the players were too 'nice', and said that he couldn't 'count on them'. Interesting to note that the team that day contained Naughton, Dawson, Kaboul, Sandro, Lennon, Ade and Sigurdsson - all of whom are now sold or a million miles away from the first team. Sherwood's problem: he told the truth.

Try joined up thinking next time: he counted on Ade rather a lot. The main player he had a problem with was Vertonghen, who he slated as being unable to defend earlier this season. Vertonghen is a lynchpin of the defence now.
 

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Try joined up thinking next time: he counted on Ade rather a lot. The main player he had a problem with was Vertonghen, who he slated as being unable to defend earlier this season. Vertonghen is a lynchpin of the defence now.
Ah yes, lynchpin of a defence that has conceded more goals than any other team in the top half this season.

I don't rate Vertonghen; he is slow, weak, casual, arrogant and sulky. Give me a manager any day who isn't afraid to ruffle the egos of his players and wins 59% of his games in the premier league.

Reminds me of another top manager - Alex Ferguson. Win percentage 59.6, and tells it like it is.

I hate to say it, but I think the reason spurs haven't done well over the years is that our fans are clueless.
 

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Why is it childish? Because I pointed out something that went against your contention? It's MP's first half season at Spurs, for the record.
Sweetie...contention! Poch, if you follow spurs, has played x2 against Chelsea and x2 against Arsenal. Sherwood had x1 and x1. So could you have made your childish remark on 1/1, about half way thro' the season? I am working on memory but I am sure there are results that favour Sherwood.
Poch is doing brilliant, but I don't see why fans castigate Sherwood. Some pratt above made the remark all he did was introduce Kane and Bentaleb.....all he did! And if Mason wasn't on loan I am sure he would have introduced him...much to the ridicule of some fans on here.
 

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Regardless of who he is, I find it amazing that he's been in the running for 3 or 4 premier league jobs after being a manager for just 22 league matches.

If I were a chairman, I'd be looking into the championship & league 1 at men like Howe, Cotterill & Karl Robinson. It's a gamble but so is Sherwood frankly.
 

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Wish him all the best. He did OK for Spurs in every role he held. Made a few mistakes as the manager but his record was, up to a couple of weeks ago, better than Poch. So if he has learned from those mistakes he could become a good manager. Cant understand the hate from some. Probably the same posters that continually questioned him picking Bentaleb. Actually it wasn't "questioning" it was a bit more vicious than that. They must feel silly now.
Anyway, I predict Adebayor will be heading there in the summer, along with, possibly, Tom Carroll and 1 or 2 others.
He undermined hoddle as a player and massively undermined and poisoned the press against AVB. the countless leaks and sources to the press against AVB was all Sherwood.
The guy is a snake and I really hope he fails at everything he does.
 

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Sweetie...contention! Poch, if you follow spurs, has played x2 against Chelsea and x2 against Arsenal. Sherwood had x1 and x1. So could you have made your childish remark on 1/1, about half way thro' the season? I am working on memory but I am sure there are results that favour Sherwood.
Poch is doing brilliant, but I don't see why fans castigate Sherwood. Some pratt above made the remark all he did was introduce Kane and Bentaleb.....all he did! And if Mason wasn't on loan I am sure he would have introduced him...much to the ridicule of some fans on here.
Sherwood played Arsenal twice and lost both. Try getting your facts right next time, sweetie!
 

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Ah yes, lynchpin of a defence that has conceded more goals than any other team in the top half this season.

I don't rate Vertonghen; he is slow, weak, casual, arrogant and sulky. Give me a manager any day who isn't afraid to ruffle the egos of his players and wins 59% of his games in the premier league.

Reminds me of another top manager - Alex Ferguson. Win percentage 59.6, and tells it like it is.

I hate to say it, but I think the reason spurs haven't done well over the years is that our fans are clueless.
Well, you're a fan and are clueless. That's about the only fact that comes out of that drivel you produced.
 

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Well, you're a fan and are clueless. That's about the only fact that comes out of that drivel you produced.
Oh I see, so you just have to say that something is 'drivel' and you're definitely right.

What you said is drivel. This is fun, isn't it?

That 59% premier league win percentage isn't going away though.
 

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And if we had Sherwood's points per game this season, we'd be third.

Still, he's a snake, an embarrassment, blah blah blah blah. Goodnight!
 

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Sherwood identified faults in the team correctly, but he undermined the team by not being able to keep things behind closed doors. That was his problem, and it was down to a constant need to be centre of attention, something that can across in his newspaper column. He was also the leak at Spurs, using certain journalists to undermine AVB. He should get plaudits for introducing young players, but that was his job as he was in charge of the development squad.
 

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While I'm at it, check out this infamous interview after we lost to Chelsea when most people probably formed their opinion that Sherwood was an embarrassment in front of the media.

He pointed out that too many of the players were too 'nice', and said that he couldn't 'count on them'. Interesting to note that the team that day contained Naughton, Dawson, Kaboul, Sandro, Lennon, Ade and Sigurdsson - all of whom are now sold or a million miles away from the first team. Sherwood's problem: he told the truth.


I thought that interview was a master stroke, you'd never hear another former Spurs coach talk the truth as Sherwood did. He was 100% right and many members of that team had been shipped out.

I reckon Time will turn out to be a really good manager.
 

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I thought that interview was a master stroke, you'd never hear another former Spurs coach talk the truth as Sherwood did. He was 100% right and many members of that team had been shipped out.

I reckon Time will turn out to be a really good manager.
How many have been shipped, and of them how many would he have been referring to? Dawson? Siggurdsson? Holtby?
It's all very well telling home truths, and he was, but tell me any great manager who would have done that in public. Can you ever recall Ferguson or Mourinho doing that?
 
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Oh I see, so you just have to say that something is 'drivel' and you're definitely right.

What you said is drivel. This is fun, isn't it?

That 59% premier league win percentage isn't going away though.
Try to think about sample size next time you chuck around stats, and don't extrapolate to no logical effect.
 

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Ah yes, lynchpin of a defence that has conceded more goals than any other team in the top half this season.

I don't rate Vertonghen; he is slow, weak, casual, arrogant and sulky. Give me a manager any day who isn't afraid to ruffle the egos of his players and wins 59% of his games in the premier league.

Reminds me of another top manager - Alex Ferguson. Win percentage 59.6, and tells it like it is.

I hate to say it, but I think the reason spurs haven't done well over the years is that our fans are clueless.
You're quoting Ferguson's win percentage over a quarter of a century of managership; Sherwood was only in it for six months or so.
 

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He undermined hoddle as a player and massively undermined and poisoned the press against AVB. the countless leaks and sources to the press against AVB was all Sherwood.
The guy is a snake and I really hope he fails at everything he does.
Sherwood has a 100% win rating at Villa, and he's not even fully in charge. He's not a naughty boy; he's the Messiah!
 

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How many have been shipped, and of them how many would he have been referring to? Dawson? Siggurdsson? Holtby?
It's all very well telling home truths, and he was, but tell me any great manager who would have done thag in public. Can you ever recall Ferguson or Mourinho doing that?
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