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Visual Awareness Coach - Sheryl Calder

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In my minds eye, I can just picture her doing a very good job for us. :shifty:

I don't see what harm it could do to give it a go.
 

BoringOldFan

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stevespurs

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When we drive we check our blind spots automatically, I suppose the habit would be similar to a quick look around before recieving the ball. Also we tend to look two or three cars ahead of us when we drive, maybe this is what Dawson does when he hits his fifty yarders.
 

Pharaoh

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The coaching staff at Spurs may already be aware of these training techniques and implementing them right now, without having to hire Dr Calder.

... just a thought.

Even so it does sound intresting.
 

tRiKS

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Propriorception (spellign?!!?)

Modern sport including football, address's this in terms of the players. It's the idea that by training and repetition your body is programmed to do certain things -muscle memory would a be more leyman explanation. But of course its' ligaments, sinue, joints as well as muscles acting/reacting. What your brain see's ajdusts your body to react to it accordingly. (why when we're not looking at the ground do our ankles and feet know how to aline themselves before impact?... and why reversley when you THINK a step is higher than you expect, you shudder when you plant the your foot?) The more you re-enforce those actions through training/exeprience/REPETITION the stronger those brain communications pathways become and the better you are at it.
That improvement is not soley owned by the young either. Proprioraception is built up in older adults after injuries. If it can be done to recover from injury it can certainly be done to improve able bodied adults in good health too.

This stuff casts a wider net along the same principles... in team sport you become one limb, muscle joint in a combined body (the team). you're training your role or roles to react to the rest of you body (the team). Buliding up brain control pathways


Therefore for those who need science to back up more seemingly "hippy" beliefs to accept them. Take this lady's theroy and practice and apply the same repetition model and muscle memory. The more you picture and practice something the greater the flow of chemicals to the specific area of the brain and overtime that section of the brain increases in activity and efficency and you are able to perfrom the fuction to a higher standard and often it becomes natural/subconcious. (like breathing... loving Ledley king)
 

SpurSince57

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When we drive we check our blind spots automatically, I suppose the habit would be similar to a quick look around before recieving the ball. Also we tend to look two or three cars ahead of us when we drive, maybe this is what Dawson does when he hits his fifty yarders.

Well, some of us do. Barely a day passes that I don't have to stand on the brakes at least once because some knob doesn't use his (or her) eyes.

One of my brother's mates is a police trainer, and what he can pick out on the road ahead (and behind) is just amazing, all sorts of little potential hazards most people simply wouldn't notice. It's not a natural ability, it's something he's been taught himself.
 

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Could spoil Christmas for the boys though :shrug:

They spend weeks learning about spatial awareness and all that, five minutes in a panto and someone shouts "He's behind you!" will have them dropping a knee and a executing a sweet Cruyff turn with their drink or something...
 

Adam456

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Adam - if a 36 year rugby player can learn new tricks then so can everyone in our squad

I know what you're saying and, like I say - we should give it a go.....but..... we don't really know that they're learning a new 'trick' as such (her training method may be a visual 'trick').

They might well have sharpened their awareness across the squad (or could have been a placebo effect) and that might be one of many things that contributed to better performance

I'd like to know her methods anyway
 

Adam456

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Well, some of us do. Barely a day passes that I don't have to stand on the brakes at least once because some knob doesn't use his (or her) eyes.

One of my brother's mates is a police trainer, and what he can pick out on the road ahead (and behind) is just amazing, all sorts of little potential hazards most people simply wouldn't notice. It's not a natural ability, it's something he's been taught himself.

Sorry to be pedantic SS57 but I think you're comparing apples with pears there ;-)

I don't even mean Police vs Football

We're comparing the prospective difference in awareness between a normal pro footballer with a pro footballer who has had visual awareness coaching

You're comparing a member of the public with a police trainer.

Your analogy should be to, say, compare the driving awareness of a top policeman (who is naturally observant as well as being trained to be) with, say, that of a police driving instructor.

Top copper is a natural and has been trained but can pratice/improve by re-sitting the course
 

tRiKS

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Can't we just give them all a DS and a copy of this?

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you've pedatidentically* come up with something that is on the right lines.


*Accidentally made a good point by being pedantic
 

SpurSince57

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Sorry to be pedantic SS57 but I think you're comparing apples with pears there ;-)

I don't even mean Police vs Football

We're comparing the prospective difference in awareness between a normal pro footballer with a pro footballer who has had visual awareness coaching

You're comparing a member of the public with a police trainer.

Your analogy should be to, say, compare the driving awareness of a top policeman (who is naturally observant as well as being trained to be) with, say, that of a police driving instructor.

Top copper is a natural and has been trained but can pratice/improve by re-sitting the course

Unfortunately, neither my bro nor I knows any cops who've been trained in high-speed pursuit. Well, he might, but he hasn't introduced me to them. :grin:

But I think the analogy holds good. And it's been proven by studies that cops are no more naturally observant than the rest of us—see the UFO thread in D&D.
 

GLUESODA

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Seen a program on this bird, she is awsome - when England won the rugby world cup, one of Woodwards first praises went to her - and she was also highly praised for turning a bunch of brain dead SA rugby players in to more creative and dynamic world champions.

Not sure if the same type of skills would apply for ball to foot skills, but definitly for a goalkeeper? Robbo?

Think in any sport your eyes as a well trained muscle are just as important or even more than anything else.

Think its one of the first people wilkinson hugs after the final wistle in the final and shes in all the team pic's standing near the trohpy so the players have massive respect for her too....
 

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Seen a program on this bird, she is awsome - when England won the rugby world cup, one of Woodwards first praises went to her - and she was also highly praised for turning a bunch of brain dead SA rugby players in to more creative and dynamic world champions.

Not sure if the same type of skills would apply for ball to foot skills, but definitly for a goalkeeper? Robbo?

Think in any sport your eyes as a well trained muscle are just as important or even more than anything else.

Think its one of the first people wilkinson hugs after the final wistle in the final and shes in all the team pic's standing near the trohpy so the players have massive respect for her too....
Is she hawt, by any chance? That could also explain it :lol:

I've been looking for a pic of her but can't find it - can't find any of the England Rugby World Cup winners with any woman in their side, let alone a hotty.

That said, she is referred to as "a world pioneer in visual fitness" :lol:

what a crock of shit job description :up:
 

GLUESODA

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Is she hawt, by any chance? That could also explain it :lol:

I've been looking for a pic of her but can't find it - can't find any of the England Rugby World Cup winners with any woman in their side, let alone a hotty.

That said, she is referred to as "a world pioneer in visual fitness" :lol:

what a crock of shit job description :up:

No, shes well ugly....
 

Rocksuperstar

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Hmm, seems Mr Woodward got her in at Southampton back in 2005, when Harry was still in charge:

Bnet.com said:
What Woodward has done so far has aroused a good deal of scepticism in what is, despite his protestations to the contrary, a game with a prehistorically backward culture.

Apart from Clifford, he has brought vision expert Sheryl Calder to repeat the eye exercises she prescribed for England's World Cup winners to increase peripheral vision. While Pele himself benefited from such a faculty " albeit one that he was born with " it is hard to resist the conclusion that peripheral vision is not a pressing concern for Southampton as they strive to return to the top flight.

Staring them full in the face is the simple fact that they have sold their two top strikers and brought in no one to replace them.

Redknapp maintained an optimistic front yesterday. 'It's not as if the money isn't there," he said. 'If we can find the right man, I'm sure the chairman will back me."

Was that another targeted message? Had a body language expert been present when the two examinees had arrived, they might have interpreted Redknapp's curious hand-wringing as an involuntary sign of the desire to wash his hands of the whole, awkward occasion.

'Two or three years from now," Woodward concluded, 'I'll look back on this episode and it will be a small, little blip." Perhaps. But perhaps not.

Nice one, Woody :lol:
 

Adam456

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Unfortunately, neither my bro nor I knows any cops who've been trained in high-speed pursuit. Well, he might, but he hasn't introduced me to them. :grin:

But I think the analogy holds good. And it's been proven by studies that cops are no more naturally observant than the rest of us—see the UFO thread in D&D.

Hmm maybe :)

Thread on UFO in D&D - intrigued ! Didn't know we had any UFO discussions. Have a few theories on UFOs and the bible. May have to pay a visist...
 

paul_1979yid

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Sorry to put this thread back on top again but i forgot how fucking stupid it was! Just made my night!!
 

michaelden

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Sorry to put this thread back on top again but i forgot how fucking stupid it was! Just made my night!!

:lol:

And this was the attitude that lost England their last world cup. Regress back to shit rugby and the failing boot of Wilkinson. Keep it up and the northern hemisphere won't see the cup again
 
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