Vlad Chiriches

[littlewilly]

that was my point. Doesn't know how good he has had it!

I have never heard of the term "half back" used to describe a footballing position. Isn't he the guy who puts the ball into a scrum? Either you guys are reinventing history or I have missed a decade or two. Wing half or inside right maybe, but half back?

 

[Barry Mead]

...is one of the worst players I have ever seen play for us (been a supporter for 13 years). I know some are going to say "he wasn't so bad (last night)-- he had a decent game save for a couple of mistakes." Unfortunately, that's not true- he had an awful game, as usual. In fact the only thing you might say is that that wasn't his worst game in a Tottenham shirt, that, indeed, he's actually been poorer than last night's performance.

It's funny- I was describing him to a friend of mine with whom I was watching the match (a guy who's both new to football and new to Spurs), and I said that Chiriches is good for at least two truly horrendous, head-scratchingly awful plays per game, minimum. Then, literally seconds after I said this, there goes Vlad, doing one of his patented high-wire acts (you know the kind- wherein he gets himself into a bad position and then proceeds to dribble into an even worse one mere feet from goal). I swear it was like he heard me and wanted to demonstrate for my buddy what I was just talking about.

How is it possible for this guy to be this awful? Is he just uncoachable? Obviously he is talented with the ball at his feet-- but how could he be that bad at defending? Isn't he Romania's number one CB?

I think we're all waiting for him to turn some mythical corner and start playing like the steal we thought we might've gotten when the signing was first announced- but is that really going to happen? I'm simply amazed that a player we bought to defend can't actually defend. It's uncanny.

I have to disagree I think he's worse than that he's a truly horrific player the proverbial accident waiting to happen

 

[yido_number1]

I have never heard of the term "half back" used to describe a footballing position. Isn't he the guy who puts the ball into a scrum? Either you guys are reinventing history or I have missed a decade or two. Wing half or inside right maybe, but half back?

The term "half-back" fell out of use by the early 1970s and "midfield" was used in naming the positions that play around the middle third as in centre midfield and wide midfield. The centre midfield position has evolved further with the attacking midfield and defensive midfield variants being recognised in their own right.

From Wiki by the way

 

[TwanYid]

Nice work... When every post you write is negative a response like this doesn't surprise me. If you wanted to pick one player in our current squad that is actually worthy of our club motto Audere est Facere then I would say it is Vlad. Not afraid to have the ball in any situation. Very rarely does he actually hoof the ball away and he actually plays some very nice passes out of the back. In the two games I've watched him play at Right back recently he has put better crosses into the box than any player we have had since Bale left.

Can you name one thing he did against Chelsea or Everton that cost us a goal? No you can't because Vlad didn't get out muscled by Drogba for the second goal, didn't let Hazard run off him for the first and didn't get made to look a mug on his arse for the third. Yes he had a brain fart in the corner with Willian or Hazard and yes he may have made a mistake on the ball once or twice. If you look around the squad a lot of players made individual mistakes on Wednesday and they can all be forgiven.

Rating the captain of Romania the worst defender you have ever seen in your measly 13 years as a spurs fan is ridiculous. In that time we've had Rocha, Gardner, Hutton, Perry, Doherty, Atouba and Bassong who were all worse footballers and for the most part defenders.

When we do sell him and he moves to either Roma, Juventus or one of the Milans and performs well in the champions league week in and week out I hope you look back on him and think, yeah he was the worst player we ever signed, we should of stuck with Bassong now at his level in the championship with Watford.

A lot of half truths, conjecture and outright lies here- all made to look as fact- but at least you've toned down the personal attacks.

I'll take on what you've written when I have time.

 

[yido_number1]

A lot of half truths, conjecture and outright lies here- all made to look as fact- but at least you've toned down the personal attacks.

I'll take on what you've written when I have time.

Oh there's not lies there... If you want to review any of it go for it.. The fact you are one of the more blatant trolls on this site means you might as well not...

 

[Norwegian Spurs fan]

Poch will take care of this, if reports are to believed, he is on his way out, but who knows?

 

[Mouse!]

I like the early balls he plays in to the feet or our forwards. For this reason I'd like to see him stay in the team ahead of Naughton.

 

[onthetwo]

Though hes played much better in the last 2 games especially going forward, i suspect that when are opponents see our team sheet, he might be the first area that they circle as a point of weakness.

 

[ShaunL84]

Chiriches is class.

You don't win Romanian player of the year for 3 years in a row If you haven't got something about you.

 

[BringBack_leGin]

Our line up on 23 September 2000 for a 0-0 draw at home with Manchester City:

Sullivan
Carr Perry Vega Thatcher
Rebrov Sherwood Freund Leonhardsen
Iversen Ferdinand

Subs: Walker, Doherty, Young, Clemence, Davies​

In that side, Sullivan was half decent. Carr had lost interest by then. Perry, Vega and Thatcher were all god awful. Rebrov was playing totally out of position and was shot of any confidence. Sherwood's legs had completely gone and all he could do was kick people. Freund couldn't even do that. Leonhardsen was the definition of uninspiring. Iversen was talented but forever unfit/ hungover and Ferdinand was completely past it. The sub goalie was talented but dopey, Doherty and Clemence were truly awful footballers, Young and Davies both had ability but were forever coming back from injuries.

This was one year before you claim to have started following Spurs.​

 

[TwanYid]

Our line up on 23 September 2000 for a 0-0 draw at home with Manchester City:

Sullivan
Carr Perry Vega Thatcher
Rebrov Sherwood Freund Leonhardsen
Iversen Ferdinand

Subs: Walker, Doherty, Young, Clemence, Davies​

In that side, Sullivan was half decent. Carr had lost interest by then. Perry, Vega and Thatcher were all god awful. Rebrov was playing totally out of position and was shot of any confidence. Sherwood's legs had completely gone and all he could do was kick people. Freund couldn't even do that. Leonhardsen was the definition of uninspiring. Iversen was talented but forever unfit/ hungover and Ferdinand was completely past it. The sub goalie was talented but dopey, Doherty and Clemence were truly awful footballers, Young and Davies both had ability but were forever coming back from injuries.

This was one year before you claim to have started following Spurs.​

Buddy we're not enemies. I don't think Vlad Chiriches is a Prem-worthy defender is all. Yes- we were poor when I first started watching Spurs- which is why I said he was "ONE OF" in my original post. Please note the difference between phrases beginning with the words "one of" and a phrase starting with the word "the."

I think he is a better PLAYER than some of the early dross we had- but not necessarily a better DEFENDER. Also, I'm more comparing him with Dawson, Ledley, etc.-- CBs-- but hell, even if you threw every "back" in there (Ping Pong, BAE, Corluka, etc., etc.) I would STILL rate him near the bottom defensively.

I'm honestly surprised at the level of vitriol leveled against me for saying something that's actually rather apparent. If anything, I would've thought I'd be taken to task for stating the obvious.

If you're ok with him defensively, fine. Me-- he greys my hair.

 

[prawnsandwich]

Our line up on 23 September 2000 for a 0-0 draw at home with Manchester City:

Sullivan
Carr Perry Vega Thatcher
Rebrov Sherwood Freund Leonhardsen
Iversen Ferdinand

Subs: Walker, Doherty, Young, Clemence, Davies​

In that side, Sullivan was half decent. Carr had lost interest by then. Perry, Vega and Thatcher were all god awful. Rebrov was playing totally out of position and was shot of any confidence. Sherwood's legs had completely gone and all he could do was kick people. Freund couldn't even do that. Leonhardsen was the definition of uninspiring. Iversen was talented but forever unfit/ hungover and Ferdinand was completely past it. The sub goalie was talented but dopey, Doherty and Clemence were truly awful footballers, Young and Davies both had ability but were forever coming back from injuries.

This was one year before you claim to have started following Spurs.​

Thatcher is the only Spurs player I ever hated. Cheating fouling ****. Fucking Graham signed half of Wimbledon. 0-0, 0-0, 0-0,
It only seems like 14 years ago.

 

[prawnsandwich]

I like Chiriches. He is a great footballer and a great defender. But inconsistent.

 

[ClintEastwould]

I like Chiriches. He is a great footballer and a great defender. But inconsistent.

And yet you don't rate lamela at all?

 

[Real_madyidd]

I have never heard of the term "half back" used to describe a footballing position. Isn't he the guy who puts the ball into a scrum? Either you guys are reinventing history or I have missed a decade or two. Wing half or inside right maybe, but half back?

pretty sure I didn't say it.

 

[prawnsandwich]

And yet you don't rate lamela at all?

I rate Lamela. Just not very highly. He is certainly not a £30 million player.
Chiriches is a £5 to £10 million player who is playing to that level.

 

[littlewilly]

I have never heard of the term "half back" used to describe a footballing position. Isn't he the guy who puts the ball into a scrum? Either you guys are reinventing history or I have missed a decade or two. Wing half or inside right maybe, but half back?

The term "half-back" fell out of use by the early 1970s and "midfield" was used in naming the positions that play around the middle third as in centre midfield and wide midfield. The centre midfield position has evolved further with the attacking midfield and defensive midfield variants being recognised in their own right.

From Wiki by the way

I go back a long, long way and I have honestly never heard the term "half back" used in association football. Maybe it was/is used in the US. Prior to midfielder, we had inside right, inside left and two wing halves; the latter changed into left half and right half for a while - Mullers, for instance, was a right half when he joined Tottenham. But never, never "half back".

 

[ClintEastwould]

I rate Lamela. Just not very highly. He is certainly not a £30 million player.
Chiriches is a £5 to £10 million player who is playing to that level.

You don't need to watch our players with imaginary price tags hovering above their heads

 

[Ribble]

that was my point. Doesn't know how good he has had it!

Hah! Yeah it does kinda make me feel like patting him on the head and saying "oh sonny, you don't know you're born".


Oh God...

 

[Buckoxx]

Reminds me of David Luiz, take that as you will but I think David Luiz is a very good player, not 50m worth mind.