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Watford striker jailed for 10 months

CosmicHotspur

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Watford striker Troy Deeney has been jailed for 10 months for taking part in a savage attack on a group of students outside a nightclub.


Deeney was caught on CCTV as he kicked one of the victims in the head during a night out, Birmingham Crown Court heard.

The 23-year-old, who pleaded guilty to affray at an earlier hearing, was arrested shortly after the fracas, which left one man with a broken jaw and another requiring 20 stitches to a mouth wound.
Deeney, from Chelmsley Wood, West Midlands, was sentenced alongside three other men, including his younger brother Ellis Deeney, who also admitted affray.

Passing sentence, Judge David Tomlinson said CCTV footage of the incident near the Bliss Nightclub on Broad Street, Birmingham, showed that Troy Deeney and his friend Oliver Brennan played a more serious role in the disorder than the other defendants.

The 30-second video clip, which was played to the court several times, clearly showed both Troy Deeney and Brennan kicking out at the "defenceless" students, one of whom received repeated blows to the head as he lay injured.

Although the judge accepted that none of the grievous injuries inflicted on the victims could be attributed to any particular defendant, he said the kicks to the head were an aggravating feature of the case.
The judge told the defendants: "Three men in particular were singled out for what can only be described as a gratuitous beating.

"All four of you to a greater or lesser degree joined in but the effect of it was that these three men, who were already heavily outnumbered, became even more so as a result of what you all did.

"At least one kicked a man while he was already on the ground and very probably had already suffered a really serious injury."

The court heard that the students were set upon after a man demanding entry to the Bliss club had a metal pole taken off him at about 2.20am on February 29.
 

CosmicHotspur

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I hope they don't appeal and, if they do, that more time is added to their sentences.
 

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All this attacking innocent people in the streets is the worst type of violence and should be punished with the maximum available sentences, there's simply no excuse for it!

If 2 blokes or 2 groups of blokes want to fight and no innocent people get dragged in then I have no problem with that, in a way that's simply life and I don't find it that bad, if they both sign up to what's about to happen then let them get on with it, it generally stops them going off and hitting innocent people instead. But to attack an innocent person or an innocent group of people just because you are pissed or angry is a disgrace, he should be getting 10 years and not 10 months!
 

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All this attacking innocent people in the streets is the worst type of violence and should be punished with the maximum available sentences, there's simply no excuse for it!

If 2 blokes or 2 groups of blokes want to fight and no innocent people get dragged in then I have no problem with that, in a way that's simply life and I don't find it that bad, if they both sign up to what's about to happen then let them get on with it, it generally stops them going off and hitting innocent people instead. But to attack an innocent person or an innocent group of people just because you are pissed or angry is a disgrace, he should be getting 10 years and not 10 months!

Football clubs need to start getting heavy handed with their players too. Most offenses these guys commit would cause any normal person to lose their jobs.

Football clubs should force them to do large amounts of community service, dock wages etc etc or even release players and set an example that a club will not tolerate such behaviour.

Too many players seem to be "above the law", even if they technically aren't they certainly get away with more and they are already in a privileged position.
 

Legend10

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Football clubs need to start getting heavy handed with their players too. Most offenses these guys commit would cause any normal person to lose their jobs.

Football clubs should force them to do large amounts of community service, dock wages etc etc or even release players and set an example that a club will not tolerate such behaviour.

Too many players seem to be "above the law", even if they technically aren't they certainly get away with more and they are already in a privileged position.

Agreed, if Watford don't sack him then they have no right to call themselves a 'community club'
 

CosmicHotspur

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An example should have been made of Joey Barton and other players already sentenced and imprisoned. No player found guilty of any act of violence should ever be allowed to play professionally again.

It's time clubs took a stand.
 

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An example should have been made of Joey Barton and other players already sentenced and imprisoned. No player found guilty of any act of violence should ever be allowed to play professionally again.

It's time clubs took a stand.

Bollocks. You can't go denying people the right to make a living just because they have had a fight. What are there options then? Chances are that they are not well educated, so what are they going to do? Be career criminals?

Saying "any act of violence" is taking it way too far.
 

CosmicHotspur

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These, like any other athletes, are public figures. I am talking about serious offences like those highlighted in this thread and the detrimental impact they have on youngsters when thugs like this are given light sentences and then resume their careers as if nothing has happened. Ten months is laughable for gbh - a broken jaw and ten stitches around the mouth while on the ground being kicked in the head. He got off very lightly imo.

An "ordinary" bloke with an "ordinary" job would find it difficult to get work and be shunned by many prospective employers, especially the same employer they had before they were imprisoned. Why should footballers find it any easier when they are released and go back into a highly paid job in football? What's so special about them that they should be treated any differently to anyone else who has served time for violence and be given an easy ride?
 

Legend10

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Bollocks. You can't go denying people the right to make a living just because they have had a fight. What are there options then? Chances are that they are not well educated, so what are they going to do? Be career criminals?

Saying "any act of violence" is taking it way too far.


I know what you are saying, but in this particular instance it doesn't appear to be a 'fight', I really don't have a problem with 2 willing participants or groups fighting. But this appears to just be a random attack, as apparently was the Barton incident, unprovoked, unneccessary and extremely damaging to the victims.

I hate this stuff, I am an employer and there is no way I would take on somebody with this type of action on their record, and i would immediately seek to dismiss any staff convicted of this type of offence.
 

Real_madyidd

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An "ordinary" bloke with an "ordinary" job would find it difficult to get work and be shunned by many prospective employers, especially the same employer they had before they were imprisoned. Why should footballers find it any easier when they are released and go back into a highly paid job in football? What's so special about them that they should be treated any differently to anyone else who has served time for violence and be given an easy ride?

I have 2 friends (well, not close friends) that have been done for GBH, one is a builder and is a Baker. Both have got jobs after serving time. Should they have both been banned from doing their jobs?
 

Real_madyidd

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I know what you are saying, but in this particular instance it doesn't appear to be a 'fight', I really don't have a problem with 2 willing participants or groups fighting. But this appears to just be a random attack, as apparently was the Barton incident, unprovoked, unneccessary and extremely damaging to the victims.

I hate this stuff, I am an employer and there is no way I would take on somebody with this type of action on their record, and i would immediately seek to dismiss any staff convicted of this type of offence.

Yet when Steven Gerrad "thought" he was going to get attacked and punched that guy in the face, no charge was made and everyone forgives him? Being convicted of this type of thing doesn't make someone evil, it's the intent.

For example, someone comes to you applying for a job, they have a record, but they tell you that they were defending their girlfriend from an attack and went over the top in a moment of blind rage, is that person the same as someone who intentionally seeks out violence and assults iinnocent people? They could both have the same record.
 

CosmicHotspur

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Of course it is. There's a difference between defending yourself or someone you're with and mindless acts of violence.
 

Real_madyidd

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Of course it is. There's a difference between defending yourself or someone you're with and mindless acts of violence.

Yet both can end up with the same conviction, and you said

"No player found guilty of any act of violence should ever be allowed to play professionally again."

It's too harsh. Complete ****s should be banned, I agree.
 

CosmicHotspur

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Yet both can end up with the same conviction, and you said

"No player found guilty of any act of violence should ever be allowed to play professionally again."

It's too harsh. Complete ****s should be banned, I agree.

You're right, I didn't distinguish between differently motivated acts of violence and there are shades of grey.
 

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The chap has pleaded guilty, let's hope he learns from his mistakes. He looked quite a promising footballer to me.
 

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I know a few people who have been in prison and are both working top jobs. It doesn't matter if you're ordinary or not. Like anything its if you are idespesible to your employer.

Why should a club suffer financially if a player commits a crime? Cutting off their nose to spite their face.
 

SugarRay

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I know a guy who got 4 years for doing the exact same thing. Very lucky to get away with 10 months.

Maybe someone will give him a much needed hiding inside.
 
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