We shall overcome

Discussion in 'Spurs Chat' started by Trix, Nov 2, 2017.

  1. cliff jones

    cliff jones Well-Known Member

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    it's nothing to do with moaning, or not seeing positives, it's about being objective. West Ham performance? Shite. United, good. Real? Brilliant. It's a mixed back. Where do you disagree and why?

    Seen the first half of either Swansea, Burnley, or Bournemouth this season? Nope, didn't think so. We need to start these games more aggressively and positively. Disagree? Why?

    Course I'll be there in good time tomorrow, trying to explain to my eleven year old why we don't register any shots on target in the first half against these park the bus teams. But it's hard...
     
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  2. Gb160

    Gb160 Aggressivity

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    Why is it hard? If they've parked the bus, then its pretty obvious why.
    Don't you think it's a bit unrealistic or asking too much to be smashing teams to pieces in every single game?
     
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  3. longtimespur

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    I agree with you on these games but I don't necessarily highlight them. Why do you not emphasise the good points as well. I can never say I see that in your posts.
    When I see you've posted my first thought is " should I read this or not, because it's always negative" I have even contemplated putting you on ignore it's that depressing.

    I suppose I'm fortunate that I look for the good in things in life and wash over the worse.
    Chill out and look for the good things, there are teams and people far worse off then we Spurs supporters.
    I say this having had cancer twice and seen our team relegated and play some really turgid football.

    Now is a time for celebrating what we are becoming, not bemoaning every poor game or bad decision.
    Judging by your moniker you were around back when we were great before same as I was. I think we're on our way back to those heights. Try and enjoy the ride buddy.
     
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  4. Flashspur

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    :D:D
    Sssh A&C might hear you :D
     
  5. cliff jones

    cliff jones Well-Known Member

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    Don't dumb the debate. A comfortable victory against a bus parker, say a two goal margin, with perhaps even a goal in the first half? Then again you knew that, you were just being... yourself.
     
  6. cliff jones

    cliff jones Well-Known Member

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    There you go bringing emotion into it again. I'm not interested in debating attitudes towards life, just in objective debate with fellow fans on the good bad and ugly of following our Club. You conveniently brush out what doesn't fit your narrative, so just stick me on ignore.

    Before you do, I actually enjoyed the occasion today. Blue sky, the always moving tribute to the fallen, another good crowd including the superb Palace following, and plenty of goal mouth incident. Even an unlikely hero. The first half was a bit brighter, just the final ball lacking. Unlike most, im always thrilled to see Korean fans, especially proud when Son does well, after living there for four years.

    But there are buts, and I like discussing them too. Bar Liverpool and our friend Lovren, we haven't scored a first half goal in the Prem at home this season, and have generally been over deliberate in possession. It almost looks like a dull tactic to conserve energy and perhaps draw the opposition out, I dunno?

    Enjoy MOTD... and have a good week.
     
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  7. mano-obe

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    We sure will overcome

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  8. Gb160

    Gb160 Aggressivity

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    Well that's just football I'm afraid, it's not dumbing the debate...you're either deluded or just not very bright if you expect easy victories against all teams, even the bus parkers.
     
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  9. Lighty64

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    the only way to get an easy win against bus parkers is to get an early lead.
     
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  10. Trix

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    Indeed which isn't easy. The difference we have opposed to the likes of Pool and Arse is that they are defensively weaker and bus parking managers will focus on that and in turn take more offensive chances, leaving them exposed. against us they literally just want to dig in for the first 30 minutes at least.
     
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  11. cliff jones

    cliff jones Well-Known Member

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    where did I say that? and keep the insults to yourself.
     
  12. Gb160

    Gb160 Aggressivity

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    Firstly, you started with the insults Cliff, 'Dont dumb the debate, You were just being...yourself'
    Secondly, its not an insult, its an opinion, anyone over expecting is either deluded or not very bright.
    I just find it amazing that people still wanna dig around for things to have a moan about, you said yourself that Palace were excellent, they defended really well...but in the end we had too much, even with a heavily depleted and visibly knackered team.
     
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  13. Shadydan

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    Cliff Jones isn't happy unless he's moaning, thought everyone knew that.
     
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  14. littlewilly

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    I'm just pissed off (as I said three years ago) that he uses 'Cliff Jones' as his user name. Brilliant, positive, expressive, ebullient footballer. Negative, sometimes pure downright nasty, woe-is-me, poster.
     
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    [QUOcliff jones, post: 5660871, member: 23358"]There you go bringing emotion into it again. I'm not interested in debating attitudes towards life, just in objective debate with fellow fans on the good bad and ugly of following our Club. You conveniently brush out what doesn't fit your narrative, so just stick me on ignore.



    Enjoy MOTD... and have a good week.[/QUOTE]



    I am sorry you dont get any emotions when you watch Spurs. It has always been emotional for me. Some good, some bad, some even sensational but others devastating. But you watch how you want, I will just ignore your comments from now on.
     
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  16. Lighty64

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    More a case of digging in until the opportunity arises to attack, but not in force, always leaving enough men back to make a return counter attack not open enough.
     
  17. Trix

    Trix Well-Known Member

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    It honestly baffles me why he even continues to watch us tbh.
     
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    I am sorry you dont get any emotions when you watch Spurs. It has always been emotional for me. Some good, some bad, some even sensational but others devastating. But you watch how you want, I will just ignore your comments from now on.[/QUOTE]

    I don't get emotions when watching my club? I said I don't have any interest in discussing attitudes to life with you on here. And still don't.
     
  19. cliff jones

    cliff jones Well-Known Member

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    Nasty, woe is me, pissed off? You've lost your way a bit there.

    I spose you have more on an excuse for being detached from reality down there, compared to more local fans who watch in their bedrooms rather than make an effort to support the team, eh Shady?

    All the StHs around me now are saying the same thing, it's not moaning , it's acknowledging the issue exists and wondering, looking for signs, of Poch and certain players innovating to get our noses in front in first halves. It's called talking about football, not just sitting there playing on whatsapp.

    It's also about not taking yourself too seriously.
     
  20. Shadydan

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    Otherwise known as unecessary negativity and moaning, funny how there's other people who have noticed it as well...don't just take my word for it though Cliff ;)
     
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