West Ham Vs Tottenham: Match Thread

[Yid]

Just had a chance to read over some of the drivel in this thread, and it was like listening to nails on a chalkboard.
You would think we are fighting relegation.
Show some support, FFS.

 

[SugarRay]

Not a bad game week to lose, although United are finding a run of form. They've got some difficult games coming up though so hopefully that slows them up a bit.

Always disappointing and for all supposed talk of how great they were, Lloris had one save to make other than their goal.

We were very poor but injuries, amount of games played and a bit of rotation certainly helped their cause. Even then, Kane missed a sitter.

Win Saturday and we could go top. Hold on a minute! I thought the world had ended!!! West Ham? As I've said all season, we'll finish 10+ points ahead of them, no dramas.

Saturday is huge. Absolutely massive for us ( and then of course ) but, again, there will still be plenty of games left after.

 

[SugarRay]

Moved to the USA this year. A season ticket holder for twelve years at home. However because I never did the whole travelling away thing, I didn't get to see the whole picture. This season in the states I get to watch every game on the box (thank you NBC and FS1). This season we have been outstanding in every game. We deserved to beat Utd, Newcastle and Leicester. However today the poison atmosphere and the homer referee didn't help, the replay of the goal clearly shows that Antonio pulled the defender (Chadli ithink) back for the goal. That being said, we were bullied, really bullied! Had we started with Dembele and Ali it would have been a different story. I'm not worried though, we're the best team in the league and we will smash the gooners at the Lane and win the league. COYS

I thought our second half display against Newcastle warranted defeat. They created far more than West Ham did last night too.

Other than that, thumbs up!

 

[Bobbins]

Just had a chance to read over some of the drivel in this thread, and it was like listening to nails on a chalkboard.
You would think we are fighting relegation.
Show some support, FFS.

Not really - whilst we're not fighting relegation, we did completely choke at the first opportunity of going top at the home of a team which just loves to put everything into screwing us over.

It was probably the worst performance of the season at the most important time (so far) - exactly what Spurs are famous for doing and exactly what we all hoped we'd got over doing.

It's understandable that people are very disappointed and frustrated.

 

[JaySpur]

We didn't get a minus point

I was a bit drunk by then. Bad maths!

 

[glacierSpurs]

After waking feeling crappy, the others results going our way is really the only positivity to take away last night..

Spammer obviously set up to beat us, buoyant by the match being the biggest of their lives.. That was really funny actually..

But jokes aside, fatigue was definitely showing, or maybe lack of a little bit of passion for a game like this.. They have a record of unbeaten at home since August and we have the record of unbeaten away since opening defeat.. So either one gotta give way, and too bad we did..

Can't understand why there are people calling for Lamela to not be playing such games.. He was the only one with the intelligence to play not so direct and could evade those incoming bodies with sleek passes and some nifty footwork.. Poch not letting him played full match yesterday was not a great decision IMO.. Mason being so direct will always bound to hit onto bodies and got the balls robbed.. As for passion of Lamela, there was not question about it.. He's always wanna be a winner in every single match...

Eriksen, as far as he was the source of creation, his reluctance to win aerial battles and even not putting the slightest of pressure on opponents when the balls are in the air is worrying.. But that said, I can understand how he wanted to take care of himself and help the team with prime fitness.. He just need to be more committed in pressing opponents on aerials duels and coming tackles..

Our back 4 last night were definitely edgy.. Balls were pinging around the back with ffs headers.. They were not as comfortable as they could when balls were chested and controlled.. And clearing headers were high up in the air instead of far away, those were opportunities for spammers to come wave after wave..

They were sharp but I don't think we were that dominated by spammer, probably first half yes.. But if we played that bad but still have some chances in going forward, with better ref decisions and 50/50 balls, things could have turned out better.. After all, the final scoreline was still just 1-0

 

[Langers]

I thought our second half display against Newcastle warranted defeat. They created far more than West Ham did last night too.

Other than that, thumbs up!

Totally agree. However we should have been ten nil up in the first half.

*against Newcastle

 

[Langers]

Just had a chance to read over some of the drivel in this thread, and it was like listening to nails on a chalkboard.
You would think we are fighting relegation.
Show some support, FFS.

Agree. It was one bad game. What do they says about swallows? COYS!

 

[Yid]

Not really - whilst we're not fighting relegation, we did completely choke at the first opportunity of going top at the home of a team which just loves to put everything into screwing us over.

It was probably the worst performance of the season at the most important time (so far) - exactly what Spurs are famous for doing and exactly what we all hoped we'd got over doing.

It's understandable that people are very disappointed and frustrated.

I get some of the overreaction and even some of the so-called "spursy" vibes.
Nobody in their right frame of mind would call yesterday's performance great, but the truth of the matter is we lost to a relatively solid (be it a wet spammer) team with a strong home record.
No one is making excuses for the loss, but some of the slag I've read today is over the top.
Nothing about this Spurs squad's progress and development of the past 12 months would hint that we're "choke artists".

 

[Bobbins]

I get some of the overreaction and even some of the so-called "spursy" vibes.
Nobody in their right frame of mind would call yesterday's performance great, but the truth of the matter is we lost to a relatively solid (be it a wet spammer) team with a strong home record.
No one is making excuses for the loss, but some of the slag I've read today is over the top.
Nothing about this Spurs squad's progress and development of the past 12 months would hint that we're "choke artists".

I think we'll find out the answer to this over the next couple of months - starting Saturday.

 

[1882andallthat]

Trying to be objective, they clearly deserved it on the night, they were first to everything and it wouldn't have flattered them if they had been more than one nil up at half time, those are facts that even the most ardent fan with Spurs rose tinted specs can surely not deny......

Is it the end of the world ? No.

Other results went our way so there is a silver lining, we have an immediate chance to put things right and the players should not need any motivation or team talk with the visit of Arsenal and the chance to put a six point gap between them and us and pressure back on Leicester with games against Villa and Bournemouth to follow in the league. COYS let's have it by bouncing back even stronger !!!!

 

[Kiedis]

Just had a chance to read over some of the drivel in this thread, and it was like listening to nails on a chalkboard.
You would think we are fighting relegation.
Show some support, FFS.

But, but, we have to make the most out of this glorious opportunity to whine, slag off all our players and face the looming crisis before we beat Arsenal. It just wont be the same then.

 

[TottenhamMattSpur]

I had to sit in with the west ham fans.
So much for their so called atmosphere. The only ones that made a real noise were the ones behind the goal next to our lot.

My seat wasn't great, I was too low down to really see how the game was going. And very unlike me,,I got drunk before the game to add to it.
I saw it as a very average football match with very little quality at times. We weren't ourselves and it looked like the mounting number of games is catching up.

It's never nice losing to them just because their fans are annoying pricks. Well apart from the 4 I went with last night.

And it hasn't changed anything. Arsenal city and spurs all lose on the same day. Bet no one predicted that and Leicester drawing.

 

[Nebby]

3 points not 4

Even better!

 

[Gassin's finest]

Its the thing that concerned me after the Swansea game. It doesn't matter if you've scored more goals than anyone else so far this season. From this point on the pressure will mount with each game, and you cannot afford to be profligate with those chances, whether you've had 14 shots on target or only 2.

Last night was not a total disaster thankfully, and its pretty much as you were for Saturday. But that lesson really must be learned... be ruthless and "on it" with those chances, if you really want to win the league.

 

[Gassin's finest]

We're gonna shit 'em FFS...

This will also teach me not to get carried away. The one time I get all cocky, and it slaps us in the mush.

 

[Jamesbashspur]

Onwards to Saturday to beat the scum.my concern is we've lost 3 games 1-0 now in 'big games'.harry needs to find his shooting boots and a fresh walker,rose and alli can give us that extra zip and if moussa returns some steel into midfield.i agree it could have been lots worse and we really haven't lost much in terms of position etc just need to go on another run.COYS

 

[Shadydan]

Not really - whilst we're not fighting relegation, we did completely choke at the first opportunity of going top at the home of a team which just loves to put everything into screwing us over.

It was probably the worst performance of the season at the most important time (so far) - exactly what Spurs are famous for doing and exactly what we all hoped we'd got over doing.

It's understandable that people are very disappointed and frustrated.

Some perspective is needed

It wasn't the best performance I think we can all agree but we have to give the opposition credit for stopping us playing. If anyone has paid attention this season they'd know that our weakness is when teams turn games into scraps and get physical, it upsets our rhythm and as a result we don't get any rhythm going, West Ham did that not to mention pinning our full backs and leaving Kane isolated against 3 defenders.

You have to hold your hands up and say that Bilic had our number so fair play to him.

We can't have it both ways, we've been stopping teams from playing all season with our relentless high pressing style and we wonder why other fans don't give us any credit instead focus on the shortcomings of their team yet when we suffer from another team doing the same to us it's all doom and gloom, suddenly the world's caving in, players are tired, need a backup for Kane, we shouldn't have played Chadli, Lamela and Eriksen together etc...all the excuses come out that no one has been highlighting in the past few games when we've won.

So I get the reactions to a certain extent but I don't get the necessity to go overboard and start to worry about us falling away, it's as if the previous 6 games never happened.

I personally think we've played our hardest match of the run in considering the circumstances, West Ham were always going to be up for that match, we just got to move on now starting with Saturday.

 

[yido_number1]

Some perspective is needed

It wasn't the best performance I think we can all agree but we have to give the opposition credit for stopping us playing. If anyone has paid attention this season they'd know that our weakness is when teams turn games into scraps and get physical, it upsets our rhythm and as a result we don't get any rhythm going, West Ham did that not to mention pinning our full backs and leaving Kane isolated against 3 defenders.

You have to hold your hands up and say that Bilic has our number so fair play to him.

We can't have it both ways, we've been stopping teams from playing all season with our relentless high pressing style and we wonder why other fans don't give us any credit instead focus on the shortcomings of their team yet when we suffer from another team doing the same to us it's all doom and gloom, suddenly the world's caving in, players are tired, need a backup for Kane, we shouldn't have played Chadli, Lamela and Eriksen together etc...all the excuses come out that no one has been highlighting in the past few games when we've won.

So I get the reactions to a certain extent but I don't get the necessity to go overboard and start to worry about us falling away, it's as if the previous 6 games never happened.

I personally think we've played our hardest match of the run in considering the circumstances, West Ham were always going to be up for that match, we just got to move on now starting with Saturday.

Summed up my thoughts, I thought Wet Spam did a good job against us last night and unfortunately we didn't have an answer. Hopefully we can bounce back and beat the goons on the weekend. I think if we can win that one I would say we are back on track.

The only silver lining for me is that Leicester, Arsenal and City all lost or drew yesterday which meant little change in the standings. Also a win over the goons should put us six points clear of 3rd and our feit in our own hands!

 

[dagraham]

Some perspective is needed

It wasn't the best performance I think we can all agree but we have to give the opposition credit for stopping us playing. If anyone has paid attention this season they'd know that our weakness is when teams turn games into scraps and get physical, it upsets our rhythm and as a result we don't get any rhythm going, West Ham did that not to mention pinning our full backs and leaving Kane isolated against 3 defenders.

You have to hold your hands up and say that Bilic has our number so fair play to him.

We can't have it both ways, we've been stopping teams from playing all season with our relentless high pressing style and we wonder why other fans don't give us any credit instead focus on the shortcomings of their team yet when we suffer from another team doing the same to us it's all doom and gloom, suddenly the world's caving in, players are tired, need a backup for Kane, we shouldn't have played Chadli, Lamela and Eriksen together etc...all the excuses come out that no one has been highlighting in the past few games when we've won.

So I get the reactions to a certain extent but I don't get the necessity to go overboard and start to worry about us falling away, it's as if the previous 6 games never happened.

I personally think we've played our hardest match of the run in considering the circumstances, West Ham were always going to be up for that match, we just got to move on now starting with Saturday.

Largely agree. The only thing I'll say is that this is one of the reasons why we needed another striker this season. Not only to cover for Kane in the event of injuries and fatigue, but as another option to counter the opposition when it's not going our way. We could have played two up and hit them with a more direct style etc and give their back 5 something to think about.

As effective as our "philosophy" and playing style has been, we don't have an alternative way of playing.